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#76
#76
kidbourbon said:
This is still making me laugh. BPV posts "the little doozy above", which would have you believe that the 2-2-1 press was the catalyst for the '86 UL national championship. Haha. Please keep posting, BPV. You are teaching me so much about UofL basketball.
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do you have anything other than your lack of anything to add or daddy's memory? As to UL basketball, I couldn't care less, yet even in that, I suspect I know more about it than you do, given the obvious stupidity on display in this thread.

If you do have something to add other than my daddy said so, bring it. If not, continue with the rhetoric lessons and worthless drivel. It is clearly helping your case.
 
#77
#77
kidbourbon said:
One doesn't have an opinion about whether a team was a pressing team. One watches and notes. They pressed on occasion. I will seriously send you full game clips from that year, and you will no longer have to rely on (a) snippets you get from a google search, or (b) my dad's evaluation. I'm not kidding. Send me your address.
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I don't want any game tapes or anything you have. I know that Crum's team played the 2-2-1 to dictate tempo.

My snippet from a google search took about 10 seconds. I can't imagine that there are any less than 100k more. What there aren't, are any that support your comments.

Your first sentence is absolutely senseless.
 
#79
#79
BigPapaVol said:
I don't want any game tapes or anything you have. I know that Crum's team played the 2-2-1 to dictate tempo.

My snippet from a google search took about 10 seconds. I can't imagine that there are any less than 100k more. What there aren't, are any that support your comments.

Your first sentence is absolutely senseless.
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I love it. You "know" they pressed. Any video evidence to the contrary would of course be wrong.
 
#81
#81
kidbourbon said:
My dad knows as much about UofL basketball as a man that has followed the team his whole life and watched every game for a meaningful chunk of time could be expected to know. How is it that you know more? Did you travel the country with Crum doing clinics?

Also, how about some context for your quotes.
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Probably seen Crum at 20 to 30 clinics at various locations over the years. The context is simple. Crum came to clinics to speak about the press because everyone who knows the difference between a basketball and a watermelon knew he was one of the foremost proponent of such.
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#82
#82
kidbourbon said:
I love it. You "know" they pressed. Any video evidence to the contrary would of course be wrong.
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I happened to exist at that time and be old enough to know what I saw. In fact, my diddy coached my team at the time and used Crum's D in our league. He used Crum's film to show a friend and I how to do it. No joke. The friend is now a preacher and I'm certain he'll attest to it. Send me your email address and I'll send his comments.
 
#83
#83
kidbourbon said:
Which is just as credible as "because hat said so."
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Yeah, kidbourbon's couchsitting father knows more about Denny Crum"s teams than Crum himself. Can't believe U of L hired Pitino instead of Daddy Bourbon to replace Denny. Dumb move.
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#84
#84
hatvol96 said:
Probably seen Crum at 20 to 30 clinics at various locations over the years. The context is simple. Crum came to clinics to speak about the press because everyone who knows the difference between a basketball and a watermelon knew he was one of the foremost proponent of such.
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Surely the foremost proponent of the 2-2-1 press would utilize it on all of his teams. So I guess that means the '86 team pressed all the time?

Oh wait, they didn't. That's weird.
 
#85
#85
hatvol96 said:
Yeah, kidbourbon's couchsitting father knows more about Denny Crum"s teams than Crum himself. Can't believe U of L hired Pitino instead of Daddy Bourbon to replace Denny. Dumb move.
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What post are you even responding to? Are you Denny Crum? Is that what you 're getting at? Because I thought Crum was busy on the poker circuits these days and wouldn't have thought he would have had so much time for message board posting.
 
#86
#86
BigPapaVol said:
I happened to exist at that time and be old enough to know what I saw. In fact, my diddy coached my team at the time and used Crum's D in our league. He used Crum's film to show a friend and I how to do it. No joke. The friend is now a preacher and I'm certain he'll attest to it. Send me your email address and I'll send his comments.
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I shot ya over a PM.
 
#87
#87
Congregation: We've lost our homes! Jobs are scarce! Hunger is next!

Preacher: Hold on, I gotta send an Email to resolve a messageboard dispute about 1980s basketball defense.
 
#88
#88
kidbourbon said:
Surely the foremost proponent of the 2-2-1 press would utilize it on all of his teams. So I guess that means the '86 team pressed all the time?

Oh wait, they didn't. That's weird.
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not when said team has a dominant paint defender who also makes their halfcourt O better.
 
#89
#89
lidderer said:
Congregation: We've lost our homes! Jobs are scarce! Hunger is next!

Preacher: Hold on, I gotta send an Email to resolve a messageboard dispute about 1980s basketball defense.
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that was funny, except for the part where it wasn't.
 
#95
#95
What's the consensus, then, on the viability of running a squad in the same manner as the article describes, vs, say, the style of that team that rotates players every minute and always shoots within 5-10 seconds of the possession?
 
#97
#97
You know you've hit it big when you write an article, which gets several rebuttals, which in turn gets rebuttals. This is from John Gasaway at basketball prospectus, who is kind enough to mention our beloved Vols. Basketball Prospectus | Unfiltered

But are pressing teams truly higher-variance on defense than non-pressing teams in college basketball? I wonder. Certainly Tennessee in 2007 fulfilled the press’s feast-or-famine stereotype. When that year’s Volunteers failed to force their opponents into a turnover, they gave up a whopping 1.38 points per possession in SEC play. Then again Louisville gave up just 1.19 points per turnover-less trip in the Big East this year. Meaning this year’s Cardinal press was not high-variance, and therein lay at least a few seeds of their success: Pitino’s defense was good even when opponents didn’t turn the ball over.
 
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