Manafort Trial Thread Part II

I haven't brushed up on the broohaha with Shapiro. I was under the impression he's been accused of writing Russia-friendly editorials. Where do you get money laundering?

Was just reading the post from Carlos about him being a purported unindicted co-conspirator in Conspiracy against the United States.

I don't know much about him either. Given that it may not be for being a pundit, or an orator for hire, was just wondering if how he was paid could result in that charge.
 
Was just reading the post from Carlos about him being a purported unindicted co-conspirator in Conspiracy against the United States.

I don't know much about him either. Given that it may not be for being a pundit, or an orator for hire, was just wondering if how he was paid could result in that charge.

Charge him! As long as we charger EVERYONE who took foreign money to influence US plolicy.
 
Was just reading the post from Carlos about him being a purported unindicted co-conspirator in Conspiracy against the United States.

I don't know much about him either. Given that it may not be for being a pundit, or an orator for hire, was just wondering if how he was paid could result in that charge.
Gotcha.
 
Charge him! As long as we charger EVERYONE who took foreign money to influence US plolicy.

Just speculating, but yeah, knowingly aiding the Russian mafia and/or the sanctioned oligarchy to launder money... I agree.
 
Was just reading the post from Carlos about him being a purported unindicted co-conspirator in Conspiracy against the United States.

I don't know much about him either. Given that it may not be for being a pundit, or an orator for hire, was just wondering if how he was paid could result in that charge.

I dont know if he was paid. But I have listened to Shapiro quite a bit. He is entertaining. His quick witted style is comical to watch against college students. But the thing is, I have heard him rip Trump many times. It seems like carlos and some others think Shapiro is a big Trumper. Well it sure doesnt seem that way by listening to him.
 
I dont know if he was paid. But I have listened to Shapiro quite a bit. He is entertaining. His quick witted style is comical to watch against college students. But the thing is, I have heard him rip Trump many times. It seems like carlos and some others think Shapiro is a big Trumper. Well it sure doesnt seem that way by listening to him.

I've been meaning to look up some videos, since he's a hot topic, again.
 
So, do you think he was being paid to be a propagandist, or what? Maybe the indictment doesn't have anything to do with his professional work.

Is it spelled out anywhere, or maybe a clue in there somewhere?

So in the new set of charges/plea deal that Manafort accepted it states that "Manafort sought to undermine United States support for Tymoshenko,” "He orchestrated a scheme to have, as he wrote in a contemporaneous communication, ‘Obama Jews’ put pressure on the [Obama] administration to disavow Tymoshenko” and support the Ukrainian government, which was his client."


He is accused of publishing Russian propaganda at Breitbart on the behalf of Paul Manafort.

"In advance of the 2012 Ukrainian elections, the Ukrainian government of Yanukovich jailed the leader of the opposition Bloc, and banned the bloc system under which her party operated. The remnant of Tymoshenko's party then cooperated with a right wing nationalist party, Svoboda, to run jointly in certain districts and not split the vote. As a result, Svoboda was able to enter parliament, although Yanukovich's Party of Regions retained control of parliament. Manafort used this to accuse Tymoshenko of supporting antisemitism. (Yanukovich's party frequently accused their opponents of being fascist anti-Semites).
Ben Shapiro at Breitbart published the story Manafort was pushing. Shapiro wrote an article accusing Hillary Clinton of supporting anti-Semitism because of her stance against the politically motivated jailing of Tymoshenko. Shapiro used the quotes supplied by Manafort. Manafort deputy Rick Gates emailed the Shapiro article to Manafort and Alan Friedman:
Gentlemen – Here is the first part of a series of articles that will be coming as we continue to build this effort."

All this was done through a fake thinktank that Manafort set up called the Center for the Study of Former Soviet Socialist Republics.


Shapiro was the author of at least Paul Manafort 3 hit pieces aimed at boosting Viktor Yanukovych

October 2012 Manafort scheme started.
Oct 24, 2012 Shapiro article
Oct 29, 2012 Shapiro article
Nov 2, 2012 Shapiro article

People keep saying this is journalism. It ceased to be journalism when Manafort was shopping around articles and quotes to people like Shapiro and others (Red State and it became propaganda that was supported by Pro Russian money and activities in The Ukraine.
The Foreign Agents Registration Act states that it "requires persons acting as agents of foreign principals in a political or quasi-political capacity to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities."
 
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So in the new set of charges/plea deal that Manafort accepted it states that "Manafort sought to undermine United States support for Tymoshenko,” "He orchestrated a scheme to have, as he wrote in a contemporaneous communication, ‘Obama Jews’ put pressure on the [Obama] administration to disavow Tymoshenko” and support the Ukrainian government, which was his client."


He is accused of publishing Russian propaganda at Breitbart on the behalf of Paul Manafort.

"In advance of the 2012 Ukrainian elections, the Ukrainian government of Yanukovich jailed the leader of the opposition Bloc, and banned the bloc system under which her party operated. The remnant of Tymoshenko's party then cooperated with a right wing nationalist party, Svoboda, to run jointly in certain districts and not split the vote. As a result, Svoboda was able to enter parliament, although Yanukovich's Party of Regions retained control of parliament. Manafort used this to accuse Tymoshenko of supporting antisemitism. (Yanukovich's party frequently accused their opponents of being fascist anti-Semites).
Ben Shapiro at Breitbart published the story Manafort was pushing. Shapiro wrote an article accusing Hillary Clinton of supporting anti-Semitism because of her stance against the politically motivated jailing of Tymoshenko. Shapiro used the quotes supplied by Manafort. Manafort deputy Rick Gates emailed the Shapiro article to Manafort and Alan Friedman:
Gentlemen – Here is the first part of a series of articles that will be coming as we continue to build this effort."

All this was done through a fake thinktank that Manafort set up called the Center for the Study of Former Soviet Socialist Republics.


Shapiro was the author of at least Paul Manafort 3 hit pieces aimed at boosting Viktor Yanukovych

October 2012 Manafort scheme started.
Oct 24, 2012 Shapiro article
Oct 29, 2012 Shapiro article
Nov 2, 2012 Shapiro article

People keep saying this is journalism. It ceased to be journalism when Manafort was shopping around articles and quotes to people like Shapiro and others (Red State and it became propaganda that was supported by Pro Russian money and activities in The Ukraine.
The Foreign Agents Registration Act states that it "requires persons acting as agents of foreign principals in a political or quasi-political capacity to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities."

None of this surprises me, since propaganda and payed "trolling" have proven to be effective in swaying public opinion, and I dare say elections.

Shapiro is touted as an intellectual and persuasive personality. It's not hard to believe that he would be payed by a foreign government to push an agenda.

I supoose, if the charges are true, the questions is - did he know who he was working for and/or being payed by? I suppose he could have been deceived by those paying him as to the origins of the payments.

It will be interesting to find out if there is clear evidence of him acting knowingly as a foreign agent.
 
So in the new set of charges/plea deal that Manafort accepted it states that "Manafort sought to undermine United States support for Tymoshenko,” "He orchestrated a scheme to have, as he wrote in a contemporaneous communication, ‘Obama Jews’ put pressure on the [Obama] administration to disavow Tymoshenko” and support the Ukrainian government, which was his client."


He is accused of publishing Russian propaganda at Breitbart on the behalf of Paul Manafort.

"In advance of the 2012 Ukrainian elections, the Ukrainian government of Yanukovich jailed the leader of the opposition Bloc, and banned the bloc system under which her party operated. The remnant of Tymoshenko's party then cooperated with a right wing nationalist party, Svoboda, to run jointly in certain districts and not split the vote. As a result, Svoboda was able to enter parliament, although Yanukovich's Party of Regions retained control of parliament. Manafort used this to accuse Tymoshenko of supporting antisemitism. (Yanukovich's party frequently accused their opponents of being fascist anti-Semites).
Ben Shapiro at Breitbart published the story Manafort was pushing. Shapiro wrote an article accusing Hillary Clinton of supporting anti-Semitism because of her stance against the politically motivated jailing of Tymoshenko. Shapiro used the quotes supplied by Manafort. Manafort deputy Rick Gates emailed the Shapiro article to Manafort and Alan Friedman:
Gentlemen – Here is the first part of a series of articles that will be coming as we continue to build this effort."

All this was done through a fake thinktank that Manafort set up called the Center for the Study of Former Soviet Socialist Republics.


Shapiro was the author of at least Paul Manafort 3 hit pieces aimed at boosting Viktor Yanukovych

October 2012 Manafort scheme started.
Oct 24, 2012 Shapiro article
Oct 29, 2012 Shapiro article
Nov 2, 2012 Shapiro article

People keep saying this is journalism. It ceased to be journalism when Manafort was shopping around articles and quotes to people like Shapiro and others (Red State and it became propaganda that was supported by Pro Russian money and activities in The Ukraine.
The Foreign Agents Registration Act states that it "requires persons acting as agents of foreign principals in a political or quasi-political capacity to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities."
So you wanna make that bet or not?
 
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So in the new set of charges/plea deal that Manafort accepted it states that "Manafort sought to undermine United States support for Tymoshenko,” "He orchestrated a scheme to have, as he wrote in a contemporaneous communication, ‘Obama Jews’ put pressure on the [Obama] administration to disavow Tymoshenko” and support the Ukrainian government, which was his client."


He is accused of publishing Russian propaganda at Breitbart on the behalf of Paul Manafort.

"In advance of the 2012 Ukrainian elections, the Ukrainian government of Yanukovich jailed the leader of the opposition Bloc, and banned the bloc system under which her party operated. The remnant of Tymoshenko's party then cooperated with a right wing nationalist party, Svoboda, to run jointly in certain districts and not split the vote. As a result, Svoboda was able to enter parliament, although Yanukovich's Party of Regions retained control of parliament. Manafort used this to accuse Tymoshenko of supporting antisemitism. (Yanukovich's party frequently accused their opponents of being fascist anti-Semites).
Ben Shapiro at Breitbart published the story Manafort was pushing. Shapiro wrote an article accusing Hillary Clinton of supporting anti-Semitism because of her stance against the politically motivated jailing of Tymoshenko. Shapiro used the quotes supplied by Manafort. Manafort deputy Rick Gates emailed the Shapiro article to Manafort and Alan Friedman:
Gentlemen – Here is the first part of a series of articles that will be coming as we continue to build this effort."

All this was done through a fake thinktank that Manafort set up called the Center for the Study of Former Soviet Socialist Republics.


Shapiro was the author of at least Paul Manafort 3 hit pieces aimed at boosting Viktor Yanukovych

October 2012 Manafort scheme started.
Oct 24, 2012 Shapiro article
Oct 29, 2012 Shapiro article
Nov 2, 2012 Shapiro article

People keep saying this is journalism. It ceased to be journalism when Manafort was shopping around articles and quotes to people like Shapiro and others (Red State and it became propaganda that was supported by Pro Russian money and activities in The Ukraine.
The Foreign Agents Registration Act states that it "requires persons acting as agents of foreign principals in a political or quasi-political capacity to make periodic public disclosure of their relationship with the foreign principal, as well as activities, receipts and disbursements in support of those activities."


I think it is really just starting to dawn on a lot of folks that this was all carefully thought out, planned, and executed. Trump probably began as just another innocent dupe. But at some point, maybe even much later, he realized at least to some degree how much the campaign was infiltrated. And he tried to hide it, which will be his undoing.
 
I think it is really just starting to dawn on a lot of folks that this was all carefully thought out, planned, and executed. Trump probably began as just another innocent dupe. But at some point, maybe even much later, he realized at least to some degree how much the campaign was infiltrated. And he tried to hide it, which will be his undoing.

That is obvious to most that it was carefully executed by the Russians. Trumps Knowledge of the Russian plot really could be that he was duped. This is where the investigation stands right now is if Trump was knowingly and directly involved.
 
That is obvious to most that it was carefully executed by the Russians. Trumps Knowledge of the Russian plot really could be that he was duped. This is where the investigation stands right now is if Trump was knowingly and directly involved.
Yeah, I'm sure the "willful ignorance" defense will play well on all the money laundering and working with the Russian mob and Bayrock Group.
 
Maybe Bob can set up a field office there


They need to dump it before the bottom falls out. East side properties as a whole are declining.

Since 2015, prices at Trump Tower have dropped 30 percent per square foot compared with an 8 percent fall in comparable properties on Manhattan’s Midtown East Side, according to New York real estate site CityRealty.com.
 
They need to dump it before the bottom falls out. East side properties as a whole are declining.
It's I trump tower? They could use it as a conference room and save the trouble on keeping Obama and Hillary up to date on how things are going.
 

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