Manafort Trial Thread Part II

[Mick]

.Or you could just act a fool. I see you chose that option.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

He could cooperate and not "flip". There may not be anything to "flip" but he still could provide plenty of information about the Russian criminal organizations that Mueller may find valuable.

Fine by me. If he has dirt, I wanna see it.

 

[TennTom]

Isn’t the point of prosecuting Manafort to punish HIM for crimes HE committed?

I've already had this conversation with you about Mueller's techniques. Why do you want to rehash it? It's like you don't ever pay attention.

 

[hog88]

I've already had this conversation with you about Mueller's techniques. Why do you want to rehash it? It's like you don't ever pay attention.

So you are perfectly fine with federal prosecutors ruining peoples lives in the hopes they can provide evidence of a crime?

 

[carlos86]

So you are perfectly fine with federal prosecutors ruining peoples lives in the hopes they can provide evidence of a crime?

Again. This is a how the DOJ has investigated and prosecuted organized crime for decades.

 

[hog88]

Again. This is a how the DOJ has investigated and prosecuted organized crime for decades.

Muelly wasn’t tasked with taking down the mob.

 

[carlos86]

Muelly wasn’t tasked with taking down the mob.

Trump and his associates conduct business and act like organized crime bosses.

 

[carlos86]

 

[volinbham]

Another reason for a plea without cooperation - Mueller wanted to delay this trial; presumably to avoid having to publicly disclose some of his collected evidence. Manafort's team pushed to have these trials quickly. Mueller may want to take the conviction without having to reveal things he doesn't want out yet.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Lord you and twitter

 

[Mick]

Another reason for a plea without cooperation - Mueller wanted to delay this trial; presumably to avoid having to publicly disclose some of his collected evidence. Manafort's team pushed to have these trials quickly. Mueller may want to take the conviction without having to reveal things he doesn't want out yet.

It wasn't Mueller that wanted to delay the trial.
Judge Amy Berman Jackson agreed to the extension which was not for as long as Manafort’s lawyers wanted. She issued an order late Thursday stating that the joint statement prepared by the two sides together must now be filed by August 24th.

Go back and read this thread more closely and you can see that Manafort is the one wanting more time and even move the trial out of DC.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/28/politics/judge-manafort-legal-team-dc/index.html

But she still had words for Downing on Tuesday, and responded to his outburst. "We don't need to be smug. We don't need to be cute," she said sharply from the bench. Downing apologized to the judge almost immediately.
She also expressed frustration with all of Manafort's lawyers Tuesday for their requests to delay the trial start date and filing dates.

 

[volinbham]

So was it the first one that Manafort wanted to happen quickly? I could have sworn it was at least one of them.

 

[Mick]

So was it the first one that Manafort wanted to happen quickly? I could have sworn it was at least one of them.

I really don't know.

 

[volinbham]

I really don't know.

I can't find anything on it so I must be confusing it with something else.

 

[Mick]

I can't find anything on it so I must be confusing it with something else.

There were scheduling conflicts by the prosecution I believe or maybe the Judge.

 

[hog88]

Trump and his associates conduct business and act like organized crime bosses.

How so? None were ever even investoigated for anything close to organized crime activity over the last 40+ years. It wasn’t until he was elected, coincidence?

 

[theFallGuy]

Flynn was fired because of his incompetence and poor leadership.

link?

 

[AirVol]

So you are perfectly fine with federal prosecutors ruining peoples lives in the hopes they can provide evidence of a crime?

Muller has that reputation. He’s ruined plenty of lives.

 

[theFallGuy]

Trump and his associates conduct business and act like organized crime bosses.

so Trump is in the Russian mob now? trying to keep up

 

[Matt2496]

Here's the link to the article on ABC: Paul Manafort and special counsel reach tentative plea deal: Sources

 

[Mick]

 

[carlos86]

It’s official. Manafort pleads guilty to one count of conspiracy against the U.S. and one count of conspiracy to obstruct justice.

 

[Obsessed]

It’s official. Manafort pleads guilty to conspiracy against the U.S. money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports, violating FARA, lying and misrepresenting to DOJ and conspiracy to obstruct justice.

Outstanding news! Does this mean Hillary can be our president now?

 

[0nelilreb]

Outstanding news! Does this mean Hillary can be our president now?

They can’t make that happen no matter who they put in jail or impeach . She had one job and somehow screwed it up ... she gone .

 

[BigOrangeD]

It’s official. Manafort pleads guilty to conspiracy against the U.S. money laundering, tax fraud, failing to file Foreign Bank Account Reports, violating FARA, lying and misrepresenting to DOJ and conspiracy to obstruct justice.

What? No Russian Collusion?