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Gator H8R

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So with all the talk about athletes and NCAA having issues with marijauna, thought it would be fun to talk about. What are everyones views on legalization, use, etc. Alot of people have very good points on both legalization and the continuation of it being an illegal substance.

Lets hear some good opinions.
 
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Great point. That could very well get this country out of debt, but then you still have the problem of keeping people from growing their own and not paying taxes on it.
 
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Gator H8R said:
Great point. That could very well get this country out of debt, but then you still have the problem of keeping people from growing their own and not paying taxes on it.
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Why? People can grow tobacco or home brew alcohol and they aren't keeping much money out of the gov't hands. I think people greatly overestimate the drive of pot smokers with that argument
 
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yup, plus the likely hood of people getting laced stuff and what not would be non-existant. At least it would be more of a refined product, and you would know what you were getting.

I think the rules of conduct while in that state should be applied like they are to booze

holy crap me and pj agree on something, hell hath frozen
 
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True. I mean look at the facts, i just dont understand why some many people think that the use of marijuana is so awful.

Average deaths per year in the US:
Tobacco - 435,000
Obesity - 365,000
Alcohol - 85,000
OTC drugs such as aspirin - 7,600
Marijuana - 0

And this data is from 2000. Its probably alot higher now.

Just sayin......
 
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Gator H8R said:
True. I mean look at the facts, i just dont understand why some many people think that the use of marijuana is so awful.

Average deaths per year in the US:
Tobacco - 435,000
Obesity - 365,000
Alcohol - 85,000
OTC drugs such as aspirin - 7,600
Marijuana - 0

And this data is from 2000. Its probably alot higher now.

Just sayin......
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Ah yes, using garbage statistics to make an idiotic point.

Tobacco deaths are tallied by whether someone was a smoker or a dipper regardless of whether their death was a direct result of that. If a four-pack-a-day smoker gets shot in the head, it's tallied as a smoking-related death.

That's to say nothing of this very basic fact: the 0 number assigned to marijuana refers to the idea of overdosing. If we're going to be totally open and honest about this, how many people die each year of acute alcohol poisoning? How many die of a tobacco overdose? How many die from a too-high caloric intake in a single meal?

If you actually want an intelligent and honest debate, get your numbers straight and quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
 
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Although I have seen this exact topic discussed many times on here and most result in hundreds of replies, I will say one statement.

I love it
 
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I just think the government could spend more time and money on something more importantlike meth. Legalization of it would instantly fix the economy and the over-population or jails and prisons.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Ah yes, using garbage statistics to make an idiotic point.

Tobacco deaths are tallied by whether someone was a smoker or a dipper regardless of whether their death was a direct result of that. If a four-pack-a-day smoker gets shot in the head, it's tallied as a smoking-related death.

That's to say nothing of this very basic fact: the 0 number assigned to marijuana refers to the idea of overdosing. If we're going to be totally open and honest about this, how many people die each year of acute alcohol poisoning? How many die of a tobacco overdose? How many die from a too-high caloric intake in a single meal?

If you actually want an intelligent and honest debate, get your numbers straight and quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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You should see Super High me. It is a very funny movie but has many many facts throughout the documentary. He basically does that same thing as the Supersize me movie except this time it is with MJ.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Ah yes, using garbage statistics to make an idiotic point.

Tobacco deaths are tallied by whether someone was a smoker or a dipper regardless of whether their death was a direct result of that. If a four-pack-a-day smoker gets shot in the head, it's tallied as a smoking-related death.

That's to say nothing of this very basic fact: the 0 number assigned to marijuana refers to the idea of overdosing. If we're going to be totally open and honest about this, how many people die each year of acute alcohol poisoning? How many die of a tobacco overdose? How many die from a too-high caloric intake in a single meal?

If you actually want an intelligent and honest debate, get your numbers straight and quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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FAIL. Id like to see you find a stat anywhere that proves that. If thats the case the number would be a hell of a lot higher than it already is. Get a grip buddy.
 
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dantheman617 said:
You should see Super High me. It is a very funny movie but has many many facts throughout the documentary. He basically does that same thing as the Supersize me movie except this time it is with MJ.
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Awesome movie. Very interesting. Another good one is The Union: The business behing getting high. It focuses on how big marijuana is for folks out west. It being californias #1 cash crop, #4 in the US.
 
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Legalize it. My best friend smokes 3 or 4 joints every day. He owns his own business, has two grown boys, and a grandson. It hasn't affected him at all.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Ah yes, using garbage statistics to make an idiotic point.

Tobacco deaths are tallied by whether someone was a smoker or a dipper regardless of whether their death was a direct result of that. If a four-pack-a-day smoker gets shot in the head, it's tallied as a smoking-related death.

That's to say nothing of this very basic fact: the 0 number assigned to marijuana refers to the idea of overdosing. If we're going to be totally open and honest about this, how many people die each year of acute alcohol poisoning? How many die of a tobacco overdose? How many die from a too-high caloric intake in a single meal?

If you actually want an intelligent and honest debate, get your numbers straight and quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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This is a huge fail. I guarantee the number who die from alcohol poisoning is higher than that of marijuana. I know this because marijuana is unique in that it has legitimate medical uses and no known lethal dosage. We are talking about smoking a naturally occuring plant, not smoking cyanide laced cigarettes or fermented liver killers.

The fact that alcohol and tobacco are legal and marijuana isn't is just about the most absurd thing in this country.

The statistics of it and common sense states it should be legal. Legalize it, and free all people in our prison system with non-violent marijuana offenses. End of story.
 
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I want to see what legalizing it does to the highly organized street gangs. If it is bad for street gangs & good for the economy... roll me one up.
 
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Gator H8R said:
Awesome movie. Very interesting. Another good one is The Union: The business behing getting high. It focuses on how big marijuana is for folks out west. It being californias #1 cash crop, #4 in the US.
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It's how my cousin in LA had been making rent for a while, and I still know people who earn their living selling it.

Pot is basically legal in Los Angeles now, and it's not that much harder than buying a cup of coffee once you're legally allowed to (which is not difficult at all to get, either).

I think BC has it down perfectly. You're allowed to carry it, grow it for yourself, smoke it in designated hash bars, you just can't sell it.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Ah yes, using garbage statistics to make an idiotic point.

Tobacco deaths are tallied by whether someone was a smoker or a dipper regardless of whether their death was a direct result of that. If a four-pack-a-day smoker gets shot in the head, it's tallied as a smoking-related death.

That's to say nothing of this very basic fact: the 0 number assigned to marijuana refers to the idea of overdosing. If we're going to be totally open and honest about this, how many people die each year of acute alcohol poisoning? How many die of a tobacco overdose? How many die from a too-high caloric intake in a single meal?

If you actually want an intelligent and honest debate, get your numbers straight and quit trying to pull the wool over everyone's eyes.
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They forgot to add the stat that smoking pot makes one stupid.
 
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