Marijuana

#52
#52
I'm a college age kid, and have never smoked marijuana in my life. I think it should be legalized, however.
 
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rjd970 said:
This is a huge fail. I guarantee the number who die from alcohol poisoning is higher than that of marijuana. I know this because marijuana is unique in that it has legitimate medical uses and no known lethal dosage. We are talking about smoking a naturally occuring plant, not smoking cyanide laced cigarettes or fermented liver killers.

The fact that alcohol and tobacco are legal and marijuana isn't is just about the most absurd thing in this country.

The statistics of it and common sense states it should be legal. Legalize it, and free all people in our prison system with non-violent marijuana offenses. End of story.
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That and the fact of all these non-violent offenders in jail on our dime.
 
#57
#57
Why don't they legalize those mushrooms growing on a cow patties too. Seriously it has a medical use so that's all it should be used for. I have friends that do & I could care less it's the chance they take legally & physically. It's gonna be abused regardless.
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Ohio Vol said:
Do you feel like emerging from a cloud of smoke long enough to actually address any of those points, or are you going to continue roving for Cheetos and listening to Phish?

Anyone over age 25 who openly glorifies pot needs to grow the hell up.
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I have a friend who is over 25, a hard core Republican, teaches in a public school whose students consistently score very well on standardized tests (ACT and SAT), and just happens to smoke pot after work because he doesn't like to drink. He chooses not to openly glorify pot because it could cost him his job. Not every pot smoker adheres to your infantile, over-simplistic stereotype. There are many marijuana users that lead productive lives just as there are alcohol users that are productive citizens.
 
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volinbham said:
Pot related DUI's aren't dangerous because stoner's drive 8 mph but think they are going 50 :)
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My personal fav argument----
Studies have shown that 3/10 DRUNK drivers tested positive for MJ.
Newsflash! 10/10 WERE DRUNK!!!!!
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dantheman617 said:
OhioVol...you will never get the point. You obviously have no idea what the hell your talking about.

By the way I do have asthma and I do use ephedrine on a daily basis. And yes...people do smoke pot for the taste. Something else you wouldnt know crap about. Please show me these "studies" that have been done showing sideeffects of secondhand mj. That literally made me laugh outloud.
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Let's see here...since it's the vapor that produces the high rather than the smoke itself, it's not an entirely equivalent comparison. But then again, I've never heard of widespread hotboxing, shotgunning, spotting, or vaporizing with tobacco, yet I have for pot.

This may shock you, but I went to UT during the real heyday of the "extreme party school" days. The guys across the hall and one room down from me ended up doing time for selling heavy drugs, the guys next to them had a room like a chimney, and the ones across from them did the same. I think I know a thing or two about this.

I cannot use comparisons of MJ versus alcohol or tobacco but you can? You say that article is biased but I guess you didn't really bother to look at the source for many of those points. Many of those sources are universities and goverement agenices but I guess those are completely biased?
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I'm not the one trying to make a case for something. If I'm trying to make the strongest possible case for something, it needs to be able to stand on its own and simple comparisons to two legal substances can't enter into it if that's what you're going for. A case is built on one of evidence, NOT of evasion.
 
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Ohio Vol said:
Let's see here...since it's the vapor that produces the high rather than the smoke itself, it's not an entirely equivalent comparison. But then again, I've never heard of widespread hotboxing, shotgunning, spotting, or vaporizing with tobacco, yet I have for pot.

This may shock you, but I went to UT during the real heyday of the "extreme party school" days. The guys across the hall and one room down from me ended up doing time for selling heavy drugs, the guys next to them had a room like a chimney, and the ones across from them did the same. I think I know a thing or two about this.



I'm not the one trying to make a case for something. If I'm trying to make the strongest possible case for something, it needs to be able to stand on its own and simple comparisons to two legal substances can't enter into it if that's what you're going for. A case is built on one of evidence, NOT of evasion.
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Unless you are on here clamoring for alcohol and tobacco to be illegal, this line of thinking is invalid. Plain and simple.

The fact of the matter is alcohol and tobacco are legal, so the comparison is absolutely valid when making an argument for the legalization of marijuana.
 
#63
#63
2 examples.

1/ 4 kids dead, all smoking pot in car accident.
2/ interviewed a chick this week, she is in jail, addicted to OC's and stated that she started smoking MJ at 14.

Now example number two may lead many of you to wonder how I draw any correlation between MJ and OC's. It's simple... She explained to me that once she opened the door and began to embrace the drug usage and it's culture she began experimenting with other drugs. She explained to me that she used MJ, Heroin, Meth, and all sorts of prescription drugs. She was confident that had she not smoked MJ at 14 she would have never used other drugs. There is no way of knowing this for sure and I know that everyone who smokes MJ does not use other illegal drugs or abuse prescription drugs. But, I firmly believe that legalizing MJ would have no positive effects.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
I agree grudginly. Being in jail for possessing or selling small amounts of pot is asinine and counterproductive.
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So Joe the dope dealer gets a pass when your little "angel" comes home with a bag of weed?
 
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tim said:
So Joe the dope dealer gets a pass when your little "angel" comes home with a bag of weed?
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I didn't say they didn't deserve an ass whipping mr. self righteous. What is OC? And your newsflash of pot being a gateway drug isn't news.
 
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hmanvolfan said:
I didn't say they didn't deserve an ass whipping mr. self righteous. What is OC? And your newsflash of pot being a gateway drug isn't news.
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Self righteous? Simply pointing out that your third world views on the laws of drug dealing would fail.

And. Not making a news flash about mj being a gateway drug. Just showing a real life example of what mj "can" lead to. OC is short for oxycontin worst drug ever, IMO
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tim said:
2 examples.

1/ 4 kids dead, all smoking pot in car accident.
2/ interviewed a chick this week, she is in jail, addicted to OC's and stated that she started smoking MJ at 14.

Now example number two may lead many of you to wonder how I draw any correlation between MJ and OC's. It's simple... She explained to me that once she opened the door and began to embrace the drug usage and it's culture she began experimenting with other drugs. She explained to me that she used MJ, Heroin, Meth, and all sorts of prescription drugs. She was confident that had she not smoked MJ at 14 she would have never used other drugs. There is no way of knowing this for sure and I know that everyone who smokes MJ does not use other illegal drugs or abuse prescription drugs. But, I firmly believe that legalizing MJ would have no positive effects.
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I am for MJ being legal but if your smoking and driving thats a whole other story. That is illegal and should stay that way.

I know everyone is different but I can name 25+ people that smoke daily. Of those 25 one is a bank branch manager, one is a supervisor at Blue Cross, another works in IT in large corporation. My point is this, there are many many situations, occupations, and people who flat out dont need to smoke. People dont need to smoke and drive, doctors dont need to smoke, etc. It would need to be regulated just like anything else. I could even understand if employers still tested for it. For everyone of your "bad"cases where MJ was their "gateway" drug you will find 100 more of people who it has benefited from it in someway. The biggest hurdle is going to be educating a good portion of society who thinks everyone who smokes pot is young and looks like someone from Half Baked. Its simply not true.
 
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tim said:
Self righteous? Simply pointing out that your third world views on the laws of drug dealing would fail.

And. Not making a news flash about mj being a gateway drug. Just showing a real life example of what mj "can" lead to. OC is short for oxycontin worst drug ever, IMO
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Meth?
 
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dantheman617 said:
I know everyone is different but I can name 25+ people that smoke daily. Of those 25 one is a bank branch manager, one is a supervisor at Blue Cross, another works in IT in large corporation.
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+1 and I smoke, not everyday, but fairly regularly. But amazingly I still seem to be able to hold down my job. I know over ten people that I work with that smoke as well but never once do they light up right before coming to work. Point is, that MJ is less harmful to the body as alchohol which is legal and MJ should be legalized.
 
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#75
BearCat204 said:
To say that oc is more dangerous than meth, crack, and heroin is laughable.
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Laugh all you want. I have never seen a drug spread to such a diverse population so fast. H.S. kids smoking, snorting, and shooting OC's when a couple of years ago all the kids were rolling an occasional X and smoking weed.
 
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