Marjorie Taylor Greene Receives Standing Ovation From Repubs. Dems Vote To Remove Her From Two Committees

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lawgator1 said:
First, I feel like I should go find some posts by Republicans about Ocasio-Cortez.

Second, there is a logic to what you say, but why aren't the rest of the country's reps by the same logic allowed to voice their constituents' disgust at her indignant idiocy?
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Horse face is just plain dumb. The garbage disposal video proves it.
 
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Weezer said:
She may very well be, I don't follow her, but how is she different than Maxine in inciting violence? If you support censuring one, I'd think you'd support censuring the other. And with Pelosi supporting Maxine's comments, she should be censured as well. We have Congress people going too far, and they need to be held in check. You want to oppose "tribalism" as you state, then call it both ways, which you clearly haven't done.
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There is truth to this. Both should be censured, as should Mo Brooks for his part in inciting the capitol riot. Shots across the bow for the rest to simmer down.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There is truth to this. Both should be censured, as should Mo Brooks for his part in inciting the capitol riot. Shots across the bow for the rest to simmer down.
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It's one thing that could simmer down the rhetoric. Censor and/or censure these politicians and mean it. it's a start.

While we're at it main stream media needs to be censored too. Misrepresentation and misleading stories are the norm, not the exception. If the media gets the privilege of access they should be held to high standards. I'm typically reading stories from multiple outlets before getting the entire picture. There was a time news was not like that and it's hurting the country. If outlets publish false or misleading stories knock em off the air for 24 hours. Make it exponentially worse upon additional infractions. Give the FCC the teeth and media would change overnight.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
In BB's defense, you've jumped into a thread and admit you don't follow the subject. You've asked him to take a position on Waters, but I guess he should have responded like you did and said "I don't follow her." Why don't you do some research on Greene and give us your thoughts on her? (After all she is the thread topic). I'm curious what you think as a guy who doesn't take sides or whatever.

Here's my thoughts: waters should never have said what she said and Pelosi shouldn't have signed off on it. MTG is a moron.
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I said long ago I thought all the Qanon stuff was stupid nonsense. If Greene supports that, she's moronic. It just makes her yet another moron in Congress. We have many. But I believe she was punished for her beliefs, correct? Wasn't she removed from committee assignments? If I'm wrong, please, correct me. But it seems I read she was. So why isn't the same level of "fairness" applied uniformly? Why do Dems like Maxine Waters or "The Squad" get to make their inflammatory comments with impunity and no repercussions? And most baffling of all, how can the supposed "leader" of the House sit back and support such comments? The fact Pelosi took a political stand over doing the right thing and condemning Waters comments should truly alarm people. The fact it doesn't just goes to show how "tribal" many of you are.
 
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clarksvol00 said:
Have you or @Weezer said anything about MTG? (I haven't searched at all). I'm not saying I call out every left wing idiot, when asked i generally will do so if I agree, but this is incessant whatabouting so you can jump on @BowlBrother85 when it's A THREAD ABOUT MARJORIE TAYLOR GREENE. Do you think MTG is radical? Should she be denounced? Do you you have an opinion on that or is your opinion just that BB85 should not have an opinion?
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Do we really need separate threads for every single conversation? Complaining about "thread topic" is really just a dodge on where the conversation has gone. Greene is an idiot. There's a definitive statement on Greene. Happy now? Like I said previously, I've always thought the Q stuff to be idiocy and said as much when it first erupted. I wasn't aware I needed to keep saying that. And she has been denounced. She was removed from all committee roles. I'm not big on screaming for someone lawfully elected to be removed from office, which is why I haven't called for Waters to be removed from Congress. I've called for the exact same punishment Greene has faced. Take away her committee assignments, and thus her power. Now, why don't you address that? Why should Waters not face the exact same punishment as Greene? Would that not be putting partisanship aside and holding members of Congress to the same standards? Seems to me, some are perfectly okay with the double standard, which is bull ****.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There is truth to this. Both should be censured, as should Mo Brooks for his part in inciting the capitol riot. Shots across the bow for the rest to simmer down.
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Most alarming to me is the Speaker of the House, the de facto leader, coming out and supporting such rhetoric. She needs to rethink her position and issue a statement admitting she was wrong to support Maxine's assertions. It's a "fall on her sword" moment. And the proper way to correct it is to take action against Maxine Waters and remove her from her committee assignments as punishment. Being friends shouldn't override their jobs, which is supposedly helping to lead this country.
 
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PNW Huskie said:
It's one thing that could simmer down the rhetoric. Censor and/or censure these politicians and mean it. it's a start.

While we're at it main stream media needs to be censored too. Misrepresentation and misleading stories are the norm, not the exception. If the media gets the privilege of access they should be held to high standards. I'm typically reading stories from multiple outlets before getting the entire picture. There was a time news was not like that and it's hurting the country. If outlets publish false or misleading stories knock em off the air for 24 hours. Make it exponentially worse upon additional infractions. Give the FCC the teeth and media would change overnight.
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Hmmm, the first amendment maybe have something to say about your grievance and solution.
 
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Weezer said:
Most alarming to me is the Speaker of the House, the de facto leader, coming out and supporting such rhetoric. She needs to rethink her position and issue a statement admitting she was wrong to support Maxine's assertions. It's a "fall on her sword" moment. And the proper way to correct it is to take action against Maxine Waters and remove her from her committee assignments as punishment. Being friends shouldn't override their jobs, which is supposedly helping to lead this country.
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Yeah, well we all know when it comes to Pelosi or McConnell or any of the political creatures that have lead over the past couple decades, party comes before ethics or morals. The only thing you might get is “Aw shucks that is disappointing news, we need to do better” to save face politically, but no real accountability.
 
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hog88 said:
Hmm? If limits, restrictions and regulations can be placed on the 2A they can surely be placed on the 1A.
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There are, you can’t yell bomb on a plane or fire in a theater. You can’t slander someone, you can’t falsely advertise, you can’t make terroristic threats... and on and on.

What he’s talking about is censoring the free press.

“Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”
 
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OHvol40 said:
There are, you can’t yell bomb on a plane or fire in a theater. You can’t slander someone, you can’t falsely advertise, you can’t make terroristic threats... and on and on.

What he’s talking about is censoring the free press.

“Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”
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Can't incite violence like Maxine?
 
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OHvol40 said:
There are, you can’t yell bomb on a plane or fire in a theater. You can’t slander someone, you can’t falsely advertise, you can’t make terroristic threats... and on and on.

What he’s talking about is censoring the free press.

“Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”
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You can if there's a bomb or a fire.
 
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OHvol40 said:
Yeah, well we all know when it comes to Pelosi or McConnell or any of the political creatures that have lead over the past couple decades, party comes before ethics or morals. The only thing you might get is “Aw shucks that is disappointing news, we need to do better” to save face politically, but no real accountability.
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Only Greene was actually stripped of her committee assignments. Maxine Waters has yet to face anything punitive, and most likely will not. You're ignoring that one HAS actually faced punishment.
 
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Weezer said:
Only Greene was actually stripped of her committee assignments. Maxine Waters has yet to face anything punitive, and most likely will not. You're ignoring that one HAS actually faced punishment.
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She faced punishment only when the opposing party took power.
 
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Weezer said:
And yet if people actually paid attention, they have.
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Sure, but a lot of it is common sense stuff that is case law, the judiciary has done a decent job of determining the limits of every law... there are no absolutes. Sometimes we have to apply common sense.
 
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OHvol40 said:
There are, you can’t yell bomb on a plane or fire in a theater. You can’t slander someone, you can’t falsely advertise, you can’t make terroristic threats... and on and on.

What he’s talking about is censoring the free press.

“Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press”
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The reason the 1A doesn't protect the speech you listed above is because it hurts/affects other people. When you talk about limiting the amount of guns someone can buy, what they can buy or what they are allowed to have you are in effect censoring them.

"Shall not be infringed"
 
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