Mass shooting of the week, high school in parkland, FL.

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luthervol said:
What is the law describing what is to be considered a threat by a student on social media?

Talk about not being able to see the forest for the trees. I've never seen a more myopic group of people.
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Jesus. What does it say about a post made on a Tuesday from a Starbucks with a drive thru?

Do you need every possible scenario codified?
 
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luthervol said:
It's really more that you can't completely ignore the "what if's" and be taken seriously.

Day to day life for many is dealing with the what if's.
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The examples you gave and wanted to discuss had no context so no definitive answers can be given.
 
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LouderVol said:
Thats not even the real issue here. the real issue (the one that actually happened) is the abuse by the cops. there is no what if there.

you want to play your what if game to save face.

I would probably leave it to a judge to decide if the cops are involved. if its the school having the chat the counselor or principal. as it was the cops didn't even know what was posted, so there goes your what if.
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Save face from what? I've stated from the beginning that the school and the officers over reacted unless there are extenuating circumstances of which we don't know.

I also said that if a student posts video on social media of himself shooting an AR15, he should just expect to be called in for a talk with an administrator or RO. Especially in a school that has already had a mass shooting.

That moved the conversation (at least in my mind) to what are the types of thing that a student could post that would be seen as a "red flag". That's the point at which everyone bailed on the conversation.
 
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luthervol said:
I understand perfectly well.

A student posts a picture of himself holding a gun with a caption saying "I'm about to lose it." Should that be taken as a threat?

What if instead the caption said, "see you at school tomorrow."?

What if it said, "I'm taking out 19."

Should any of these be taken by school officials as threats?
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hog88 said:
Actual threats are pretty easy to identify.
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How do you access each of the three above?
 
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luthervol said:
I also said that if a student posts video on social media of himself shooting an AR15, he should just expect to be called in for a talk with an administrator or RO. Especially in a school that has already had a mass shooting.
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And this is where people disagree with you and think it’s a gross abuse.
 
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luthervol said:
It's not really fishing.

The reluctance to get into the true issue of defining what is and isn't a threat is very telling. I've seen the same reluctance with other issues as well. It's easy to talk in absolutes when you refuse to consider the reality.
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The hypotheticals magically appear when "reality" doesn't add up in this particular situation.
 
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Mick said:
Taking a long time for the kids lawyer to file the paperwork to sue. Any day now the NRA will send them additional council.
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Never said it was criminal. Side note: How the hell do you expect anyone to take you seriously when you are anti free assembly? I mean Jesus man.
 
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luthervol said:
Save face from what? I've stated from the beginning that the school and the officers over reacted unless there are extenuating circumstances of which we don't know.

I also said that if a student posts video on social media of himself shooting an AR15, he should just expect to be called in for a talk with an administrator or RO. Especially in a school that has already had a mass shooting.

That moved the conversation (at least in my mind) to what are the types of thing that a student could post that would be seen as a "red flag". That's the point at which everyone bailed on the conversation.
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Good question for the locals in said situation considering one kid had plenty flags and killed.

The other made a video at a range and has a less than flattering opinion of those that dropped the first ball.

Convenient they now seem concerned. They obviously don't see the lines and stuff before and have rightfully got called on it.
 
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luthervol said:
I know. That is why I'm trying to take the conversation to the next level. Where is the line? What crosses the line? Who draws the line? Who has to interpret the line?
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Why don’t you just tell us the answers instead of playing these moronic games?

I know you think you’re being clever. You aren’t. State you position or leave it. You can’t win a debate when you NEVER take a position.
 
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DancingOutlaw said:
Why don’t you just tell us the answers instead of playing these moronic games?

I know you think you’re being clever. You aren’t. State you position or leave it. You can’t win a debate when you NEVER take a position.
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as someone else said. X threats over Y interval.
 
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