Matt Campbell (Iowa State)

Poll: Hire Matt Campbell?

  • Yes

    Votes: 575 82.1%

  • No

    Votes: 124 17.7%
  • Total voters
    700
#576
#576
LittleVol said:
I like Matt Campbell. Here's what people don't understand tho...
Big 12 is waaaaaay down. You look at recruiting rankings and their records against out of conference foes. Obviously Texas being down has something to do with that.

Campbell is coaching his boys up good. They get sky high for their opponents. They relish the "underdog " role. That only works for so long. When they play a team at their talent level (Louisiana 2020) who also is well coached and has a chip on their shoulder....

Point is Campbell needs to recruit better AND put his coaching with that. Because Big 12 is down. SEC is not.

In all honesty he really should be able to recruit better to Iowa State. Not top 25 maybe but definitely top 40. Kentucky recruits in that area or higher.
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Let me get this straight - Louisiana has better talent than OU and Texas? Did you really just write that?
 
#578
#578
Perspective said:
What does Campbell have in common with Butch? Very little.
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Their MAC success and coaching trajectory are very similar. Winning against teams they shouldn't and losing against teams they shouldn't. If we looked at Butch in 2016, we'd probably say hell yes. He beat Ga and Fla.

He lost to Napier this year, maybe hes the better coach?

I do think Campbell is and will be better than Butch. And I could see him doing well here. Maybe it's just BVS, I dunno.
 
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Perspective said:
I thought Vol fans think highly of Tennessee? If it’s one of the top jobs, it should facilitate a higher ceiling than at Iowa St.

And you should come to grips with even a home run hire not averaging too much more than 8 wins/year. Peak years more, 10 or 11, with down years 6 or 7.

Excluding Saban and Dabo, the only class above Campbell are the Smart, Riley, Day types. P5 guys that have gone to multiple NY6 games and multiple top 10 teams in the last 5 years. And given what those inherited and where they’re at, Campbell being a FG kicker away from having Iowa St in playoff contention is more impressive.

We need a builder. We need a more with less to catch up to Bama and UGa. That’s Campbell.

My concern with him is losing games he shouldn’t, but I think the recruiting bump at Tennessee (top-25 rather than top 50) would give his culture and style of play enough of a buffer. And the combination would thrive in games that we “shouldn’t” win
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He will definitely get top 15 classes routinely. Doubt they would fall much lower than that.
 
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VolForLife83 said:
Their MAC success and coaching trajectory are very similar. Winning against teams they shouldn't and losing against teams they shouldn't. If we looked at Butch in 2016, we'd probably say hell yes. He beat Ga and Fla.

He lost to Napier this year, maybe hes the better coach?

I do think Campbell is and will be better than Butch. And I could see him doing well here. Maybe it's just BVS, I dunno.
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Based on their Mac success and coaching trajectory?

That’s ridiculous. A huge portion of the most successful coaches in college football history have gotten started with MAC success.

Winning against teams they shouldn’t is exactly what we need. And the mere fact there are now teams you deem that Iowa St shouldn’t lose to speaks volumes to Campbell’s work.

He lost to a top-25 UL squad in a fluke game in which they gave up 2 ST touchdowns and a 70 yard TD run. In terms of losing games he shouldn’t due to innate talent, Saban has a worse history.

I agree his style of play leads to a lot of close games, regardless of opponent talent. That means if you have critical plays go against you, you could lose (see UL game for them). But a roster of top-25 classes should greatly reduce those
 
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Perspective said:
I thought Vol fans think highly of Tennessee? If it’s one of the top jobs, it should facilitate a higher ceiling than at Iowa St.

And you should come to grips with even a home run hire not averaging too much more than 8 wins/year. Peak years more, 10 or 11, with down years 6 or 7.

Excluding Saban and Dabo, the only class above Campbell are the Smart, Riley, Day types. P5 guys that have gone to multiple NY6 games and multiple top 10 teams in the last 5 years. And given what those inherited and where they’re at, Campbell being a FG kicker away from having Iowa St in playoff contention is more impressive.

We need a builder. We need a more with less to catch up to Bama and UGa. That’s Campbell.

My concern with him is losing games he shouldn’t, but I think the recruiting bump at Tennessee (top-25 rather than top 50) would give his culture and style of play enough of a buffer. And the combination would thrive in games that we “shouldn’t” win
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Campbell is one of the best coaches in the country. But he isn’t motivated by money and doesn’t seek the limelight. I can’t see him wanting to be in this fishbowl.
 
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#582
lifeisdeep said:
Well considering we were too good for Mullen, and now we're too good for Freeze, it only stands to reason that since Campbell is a proven coach several notches above most of the rest, he must not be what we want.

Thankfully, the geniuses who think all of the above coaches don't pass UT muster probably will have zero to do with who gets hired.
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It’s not that we’re too good for Freeze, it’s just that common sense dictates that when you’re staring down the barrel of a serious NCAA investigation, you don’t hire a guy who’s last coaching stop ended with 15 Level 1 violations.
 
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ThreatLevelOrange said:
Campbell is one of the best coaches in the country. But he isn’t motivated by money and doesn’t seek the limelight. I can’t see him wanting to be in this fishbowl.
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That’s okay, because Tennessee has more to offer than money.

He’s turned down higher profile, “better jobs”. But those were also better than Iowa St. He is drawn to the challenge and culture of a place.

I do think the challenge of bringing Tennessee back to the top of the SEC (and college football) by bringing his Midwest football to the SEC is appealing to his type. He isn’t like most top candidates, and that could be in Tennessee’s favor.

Tennessee is right in the sweet spot for him. He’s a grinder type. I think that works well here. A good position with great support, but we need to be more blue collar than the current elite in the conference. He can bring that chip on the shoulder culture, but not be at too great of disadvantage in recruiting
 
#586
#586
What concerns me about us going after Matt Campbell is the realistic probability of being disappointed when he says what he’s inevitably going to say: ... No.
 
#587
#587
Perspective said:
That’s okay, because Tennessee has more to offer than money.

He’s turned down higher profile, “better jobs”. But those were also better than Iowa St. He is drawn to the challenge and culture of a place.

I do think the challenge of bringing Tennessee back to the top of the SEC (and college football) by bringing his Midwest football to the SEC is appealing to his type. He isn’t like most top candidates, and that could be in Tennessee’s favor.

Tennessee is right in the sweet spot for him. He’s a grinder type. I think that works well here. A good position with great support, but we need to be more blue collar than the current elite in the conference. He can bring that chip on the shoulder culture, but not be at too great of disadvantage in recruiting
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I want to believe all of this. White is a good salesman and will draw competitors who want to tackle the challenge together. I just get the sense that Campbell is fine coaching ball under the radar. I’m supremely confident losses at Ames don’t generate the same response from the fan base in Knoxville.
 
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#593
ThreatLevelOrange said:
I want to believe all of this. White is a good salesman and will draw competitors who want to tackle the challenge together. I just get the sense that Campbell is fine coaching ball under the radar. I’m supremely confident losses at Ames don’t generate the same response from the fan base in Knoxville.
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Perhaps, but I’m one to think that’s an overweighted element.
At any P5, you better learn to block that noise out. Not even P5. If you’re listening to that, you won’t survive in the MAC.

College sports are everything in Iowa. Is there a difference between Knoxville and Ames? Likely, but not likely enough to be too high in the decision of confident head coaches that have a proven ability to build and win.

Besides, in theory he’ll lose less here!
 
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#600
What is going to be hilarious is once the new coach is announced, no matter who it is, they will not be good enough, smart enough, connected enough or experienced enough to satisfy this forum. Every name that has been mentioned over the last several searches has been broken down by people who have no role in college football.

Everyone is discussing and arguing about who they want but none of them are in the business, it’s Joe the Electricians opinion of who should be the caretaker of young peoples lives and futures. I get it its a fan forum but give it some perspective.
 
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