Matt Campbell (Iowa State)

[Tolfbfan]

So a long term contract that is going to pay him about 1.7 times his current yearly salary will not sway him?

The dude doesnt have an agent and really does not consider money like us normal people. My son played for him at Toledo and I am 100% sure that money will not be a factor when and if he leaves ISU.

 

[Perspective]

He may not leave for the UT job, but at some point he's going to get tired of the 9-win ceiling that Iowa State recruiting affords him.

He broke through that this year.
If you can go 8-1 in your conference in just Year 5 with a roster of your initial, poor recruiting, the ceiling isn’t 9 games. What happens as he builds on the success and slightly improves recruiting? If you watched their games, it wasn’t a fluke.

 

[Tolfbfan]

He may not leave for the UT job, but at some point he's going to get tired of the 9-win ceiling that Iowa State recruiting affords him.

I am not sure that Campbell would agree with your comment. He is currently winning at those levels with 3 star players. He is getting more interest from higher rated recruits now. Campbell is a rare breed who is not motivated by the same thing as ego driven coaches that we see often in sports.

 

[Tolfbfan]

Why did he leave Toledo?
Obviously, with Iowa St being a top 10 team a few plays from the playoffs, the jump isn’t as big to Tennessee as it was to Iowa St. But coaches leave good 2 deeps, particularly for nearly 2x the salary

When Toledo went to Iowa State and beat them, he told his wife that ISU's fan base was amazing to support their team the way they did with their history. He said he could coach there. It just happened that ISU's ad was smart enough to go after him. Most ofnhis staff went with him. Bottom line, Coach Campbell doesn't leave two deeps and a school he loves for money.. Sorry, you have no chance. In my humble opinion.

 

[WestTnVFL971]

He may turn it down but I have a gut feeling he’s the big fish we are waiting on an answer from. Makes too much sense.

 

[BeardedVol]

I am not sure that Campbell would agree with your comment. He is currently winning at those levels with 3 star players. He is getting more interest from higher rated recruits now. Campbell is a rare breed who is not motivated by the same thing as ego driven coaches that we see often in sports.

He'll never see a CFB berth at Iowa State. The Iowa State admin is content with upsetting Oklahoma occasionally, and beating Iowa, Campbell doesn't seem to be of the same mindset. The right school is going to make him the right offer, and he will go there and win an NC.

 

[Perspective]

When Toledo went to Iowa State and beat them, he told his wife that ISU's fan base was amazing to support their team the way they did with their history. He said he could coach there. It just happened that ISU's ad was smart enough to go after him. Most ofnhis staff went with him. Bottom line, Coach Campbell doesn't leave two deeps and a school he loves for money.. Sorry, you have no chance. In my humble opinion.

Didn’t he leave for more pay right before your championship game? He left a team he built only because Iowa St had 50k-60k at a game despite poor history? That seems overly simplistic. I doubt he does that to Toledo just over them having 30k more fans than the Rockets. Iowa St paying more and competing at a higher level was in the decision parameters too

I agree, the money isn’t the only factor.
But Tennessee has great fan support. Great everything except on field success the last two decades. Perhaps that plus $8 million gets him to look?

 

[Tolfbfan]

He'll never see a CFB berth at Iowa State. The Iowa State admin is content with upsetting Oklahoma occasionally, and beating Iowa, Campbell doesn't seem to be of the same mindset. The right school is going to make him the right offer, and he will go there and win an NC.

Have you been watching the money the admin is pouring into ISU football. They are building and upgrading facilities at a very fast pace. The staff has had raises most every year, not counting covid. Their current ad and Campbell are exactly in the same mindset, so I think he believes Iowa State can become a top 15 program year in and year out. Now if a "true" blueblood comes calling in 3-5 years, maybe. But again, Campbell will only be interested in, I Believe, 2-3 programs in the whole nation.

 

[Tolfbfan]

Didn’t he leave for more pay right before your championship game? He left a team he built only because Iowa St had 50k-60k at a game despite poor history? That seems overly simplistic. I doubt he does that to Toledo just over them having 30k more fans than the Rockets. Iowa St paying more and competing at a higher level was in the decision parameters too

I agree, the money isn’t the only factor.
But Tennessee has great fan support. Great everything except on field success the last two decades. Perhaps that plus $8 million gets him to look?

You missed the whole point, except the higher level. It was not the number of fans, it was the type of fan and the city. Everyone knew he would be leaving Toledo in a short time. No one who knows Campbell believes he is leaving ISU anytime soon.

 

[SDV]

You missed the whole point, except the higher level. It was not the number of fans, it was the type of fan and the city. Everyone knew he would be leaving Toledo in a short time. No one who knows Campbell believes he is leaving ISU anytime soon.

Just curious. Why are you on a Vols message board?

 

[Shirleyudontmeanthat]

Have you been watching the money the admin is pouring into ISU football. They are building and upgrading facilities at a very fast pace. The staff has had raises most every year, not counting covid. Their current ad and Campbell are exactly in the same mindset, so I think he believes Iowa State can become a top 15 program year in and year out. Now if a "true" blueblood comes calling in 3-5 years, maybe. But again, Campbell will only be interested in, I Believe, 2-3 programs in the whole nation.

Wow can smell the fear in this one , sounds like Coach Campbell getting fitted in orange at this very moment

 

[BeardedVol]

Have you been watching the money the admin is pouring into ISU football. They are building and upgrading facilities at a very fast pace. The staff has had raises most every year, not counting covid. Their current ad and Campbell are exactly in the same mindset, so I think he believes Iowa State can become a top 15 program year in and year out. Now if a "true" blueblood comes calling in 3-5 years, maybe. But again, Campbell will only be interested in, I Believe, 2-3 programs in the whole nation.

Are they spending enough money to transport the school to another physical location? That's what it will take to get recruiting to a level to see a CFB berth, even under Campbell.

 

[Tolfbfan]

Didn’t he leave for more pay right before your championship game? He left a team he built only because Iowa St had 50k-60k at a game despite poor history? That seems overly simplistic. I doubt he does that to Toledo just over them having 30k more fans than the Rockets. Iowa St paying more and competing at a higher level was in the decision parameters too

I agree, the money isn’t the only factor.
But Tennessee has great fan support. Great everything except on field success the last two decades. Perhaps that plus $8 million gets him to look?

The two decades would not be the issue. Timing and some believe there is a very short list of schools he will ever consider down the road.

 

[Perspective]

He'll never see a CFB berth at Iowa State. The Iowa State admin is content with upsetting Oklahoma occasionally, and beating Iowa, Campbell doesn't seem to be of the same mindset. The right school is going to make him the right offer, and he will go there and win an NC.

He’ll never see one here. Or most places.

You think the Iowa St administration not being asshats and having him on the hot seat for “just” good seasons is a negative? Lol.

The fact is, he’s at a P5 in which he’s proven he can compete for the conference. You’re competing for playoffs if you’re winning a P5. Campbell seems of the mindset to embrace the fact he’s doing that at a place like Iowa st. A notch in the belt unmatched by doing it at Ohio St or the handful of other places

 

[Tolfbfan]

Wow can smell the fear in this one , sounds like Coach Campbell getting fitted in orange at this very moment

No fear at all and I don't even have a dog in the fight so to speak. Just really like, respect and continue to follow his teams. Good luck on your search, CMC [Coach Campbell] will not be putting on anything orange in the near future.

 

[Tolfbfan]

Are they spending enough money to transport the school to another physical location? That's what it will take to get recruiting to a level to see a CFB berth, even under Campbell.

Dude, worry more about the 20 year dumpster fire that your program is in. ISU will be just fine. No insult intended....that was a comment from one of your fans on this site.

 

[Perspective]

Are they spending enough money to transport the school to another physical location? That's what it will take to get recruiting to a level to see a CFB berth, even under Campbell.

Did that prevent them this year? Did you follow them? More talent would help, but it was ST that cost them. And that’s with initial classes.

Won’t recruiting improve? It’s easier when you’re coming off success and have a now coach universally known. I’m not talking moving up into the top-25, I’m talking of having more guys in the two deep that weren’t Iowa St fallbacks.

 

[BeardedVol]

He’ll never see one here. Or most places.

You think the Iowa St administration not being asshats and having him on the hot seat for “just” good seasons is a negative? Lol.

The fact is, he’s at a P5 in which he’s proven he can compete for the conference. Campbell seems of the mindset to embrace the fact he’s doing that at a place like Iowa st. A notch in the belt unmatched by doing it at Ohio St or the handful of other places

He's managed one division title, in a weak conference during a pandemic. He's doing well for the talent he's recruiting, but let's not pretend that with that talent level, even with his coaching, that they would have beaten anyone in the CFB playoffs this year. He will most likely never be able to recruit the talent he needs to do more than win a Big 12 title.

 

[BeardedVol]

Dude, worry more about the 20 year dumpster fire that your program is in. ISU will be just fine. No insult intended....that was a comment from one of your fans on this site.

Lol, says the ISU fan on a UT message board.

 

[Boston Vol]

The two decades would not be the issue. Timing and some believe there is a very short list of schools he will ever consider down the road.

I agree that it’s probably a short list of schools, but seeing as how Campbell interviewed for the job here three years ago, I assume UT would be one of those schools on the short list.

 

[jaybird_1981]

When Toledo went to Iowa State and beat them, he told his wife that ISU's fan base was amazing to support their team the way they did with their history. He said he could coach there. It just happened that ISU's ad was smart enough to go after him. Most ofnhis staff went with him. Bottom line, Coach Campbell doesn't leave two deeps and a school he loves for money.. Sorry, you have no chance. In my humble opinion.

That is a nice story you would tell to the new team that just hired you.

 

[BeardedVol]

Did that prevent them this year? Did you follow them? More talent would help, but it was ST that cost them. And that’s with initial classes.

Won’t recruiting improve? It’s easier when you’re coming off success and have a now coach universally known. I’m not talking moving up into the top-25, I’m talking of having more guys in the two deep that weren’t Iowa St fallbacks.

I watched most of their games this year, they are a fun team to watch. That doesn't change reality though. I doubt ISU's admin expects him to do much more than he already is, but at some point he'll want more of an opportunity to win, and being at ISU isn't going to get him those opportunities.

 

[Perspective]

He's managed one division title, in a weak conference during a pandemic. He's doing well for the talent he's recruiting, but let's not pretend that with that talent level, even with his coaching, that they would have beaten anyone in the CFB playoffs this year. He will most likely never be able to recruit the talent he needs to do more than win a Big 12 title.

They don’t have divisions. Good grief. The Big 12 was better than the SEC this year, and presumably Iowa St was faced with the same Covid challenges as everyone else. Rumor has it that contributed to their uncharacteristically poor fundamentals in Gane 1. They’re a development program with less depth, so not having an spring/off-season would more adversely impact them. It’s presumptive to allude to it benefiting them.

I’m getting the impression you’re not up to speed on this.

 

[BeardedVol]

They don’t have divisions. Good grief. The Big 12 was better than the SEC this year, and presumably Iowa St was faced with the same Covid challenges as everyone else. Rumor has it that contributed to their uncharacteristically poor fundamentals in Gane 1. They’re a development program with less depth, so not having an spring/off-season would more adversely impact them. It’s presumptive to allude to it benefiting them.

I’m getting the impression you’re not up to speed on this.

Ffs dude, ISU was in the big 12 title game it's the equivalent of a division title.

 

[Perspective]

Ffs dude, ISU was in the big 12 title game is the equivalent of division title.

No, it’s not. There is no unbalanced scheduling. Having the best record of a 9 game round robin conference schedule is a rather different implication than “just” winning a division to get to the title game. It isn’t similar at all.

If Campbell is confident and a competitor, I doubt he sees the need to leave to reach the playoffs. Imo, he likely looks at the losses that prevented it this year and sees them as correctable.

I’ve been hoping for Campbell for 3 years. I’ve actually cooled a little bit because despite the recruiting rankings, I actually think Campbell has left wins on the table. That’s how good of a program builder he is.