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#51
#51
Chris4Vols22 said:
So I can't extrapolate from RTL games that McRae is athletic, a high-flier, and is capable of strong dunks? Because he did that at the scrimmage. Will it still mean nothing that I saw that in the RTL if he exhibits those qualities in regular season games? I freaking know that RTL doesn't translate to NCAA, but saying that you can't gauge anything from it is absolutely absurd.
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Sure you can. You can even exfoliate if you like. Just saying don't get hopes up based on a one on one snowbirding league.
 
#52
#52
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Sure you can. You can even exfoliate if you like. Just saying don't get hopes up based on a one on one snowbirding league.
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Right. I absolutely agree. But through the league, we can see what the players are capable of, and understand their strengths and weaknesses, keeping in mind the difference between RTL and NCAA.
 
#54
#54
Chris4Vols22 said:
Right. I absolutely agree. But through the league, we can see what the players are capable of, and understand their strengths and weaknesses, keeping in mind the difference between RTL and NCAA.
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I really don't think you can. Seeing Division I level athletes play against kids from LMU doesn't give you an idea what they're capable of. I saw Woolridge score 39 one game. He's probably not capable of putting up 39 in 8 games for Tennessee.
 
#55
#55
Chris4Vols22 said:
Right. I absolutely agree. But through the league, we can see what the players are capable of, and understand their strengths and weaknesses, keeping in mind the difference between RTL and NCAA.
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That's just not true.
 
#56
#56
You can tell if someone can shoot or not. You can tell if someone can dribble or not. You can tell if someone can jump or not.

While it is not possible to extrapolate RTL numbers for the season, it is possible to evaluate a player in person and get a good deal of information about their strength and size and weight and endurance etc.

I do not think we should use the RTL as a be all and end all, but it is also strange to hear people continue to act like it means nothing.

Tobias Harris scoring at will during the all star game before he broke his foot is a very good sign. But but but it was just an all star game. Most of the best players coming out of HS were in that game, and none of them looked as dominant as Tobias did before he got hurt. He ended up as one of the scoring leaders despite playing less than a half.
 
#57
#57
MikeHamiltonFan said:
You can tell if someone can shoot or not. You can tell if someone can dribble or not. You can tell if someone can jump or not.

While it is not possible to extrapolate RTL numbers for the season, it is possible to evaluate a player in person and get a good deal of information about their strength and size and weight and endurance etc.

I do not think we should use the RTL as a be all and end all, but it is also strange to hear people continue to act like it means nothing.

Tobias Harris scoring at will during the all star game before he broke his foot is a very good sign. But but but it was just an all star game. Most of the best players coming out of HS were in that game, and none of them looked as dominant as Tobias did before he got hurt. He ended up as one of the scoring leaders despite playing less than a half.
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What percentage do you think guys shoot on uncontested shots (RTL)? What do you think that percentage is on contested shots?

I wonder how many NBA scouts were at the RTL evaluating players in person?

Because it doesn't mean anything.

Most high schoolers don't have a clue how to play upper level defense.
 
#58
#58
So what should we extrapolate from Renaldo Woolridge and D'Mario Curry averaging more points than Cam Tatum and Chris Lofton?
 
#59
#59
Awesome logic. I hope NBA scouts are in attendance when we play our untelevised SEC games, or else they will mean nothing!

I said you cannot extrapolate. Is reading a struggle?
 
#60
#60
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Awesome logic. I hope NBA scouts are in attendance when we play our untelevised SEC games, or else they will mean nothing!

I said you cannot extrapolate. Is reading a struggle?
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I will admit it is tough to get through all of your garbage.
 
#61
#61
JZVOL said:
What percentage do you think guys shoot on uncontested shots (RTL)? What do you think that percentage is on contested shots?

I wonder how many NBA scouts were at the RTL evaluating players in person?

Because it doesn't mean anything.

Most high schoolers don't have a clue how to play upper level defense.
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There's a reason college coaches show up at all star games that fall in evaluation periods just long enough to be seen by their targets, then leave. There's no bigger fool's errand than making judgments based on high versions of MTV's Rock and Jock Game.
 
#62
#62
JZVOL said:
That's just not true.
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I could definitely see, through the RTL, that Scotty doesn't have great handles, that JMac can jump high and dunk hard, Melvin can be really fast, etc. You can formulate these opinions watching them warm up. Tell me how those thoughts are incorrect or invalid.
 
#63
#63
Chris4Vols22 said:
I could definitely see, through the RTL, that Scotty doesn't have great handles, that JMac can jump high and dunk hard, Melvin can be really fast, etc. You can formulate these opinions watching them warm up. Tell me how those thoughts are incorrect or invalid.
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Because it's relative. They may look fast to you in warmups, but when they're being guarded by other Div. I players, they suddenly don't look as fast. Not that hard to understand.
 
#64
#64
LawVol13 said:
Because it's relative. They may look fast to you in warmups, but when they're being guarded by other Div. I players, they suddenly don't look as fast. Not that hard to understand.
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You're acting like you think I don't know that. If one can't make any judgment while keeping in mind the relativity aspect, then they really aren't making sound assumptions. However I ****ing understand that, I don't think many people don't understand that.
 
#65
#65
When you are going against CJ Watson, JP Prim, Tony White Jr and look fast, you are fast. Those are accurate and relative assessments. A 41" verticle shown by Goins is a tangible asset as well. I don't think you can gain a ton of knowledge from the RTL, but you can also see who is uber competitive and who takes things serious as well. Someone educated in basketball and who already has done their homework on athletes stands to gain much less than the casual observer at this type of event as well.
 
#66
#66
Chris4Vols22 said:
You're acting like you think I don't know that. If one can't make any judgment while keeping in mind the relativity aspect, then they really aren't making sound assumptions. However I ****ing understand that, I don't think many people don't understand that.
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Then what's the point of pretending you can project things from RTL? Goins looks fast in warmups. Well, great. That doesn't mean crap.
 
#67
#67
Chris4Vols22 said:
Right. I absolutely agree. But through the league, we can see what the players are capable of, and understand their strengths and weaknesses, keeping in mind the difference between RTL and NCAA.
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JZVOL said:
That's just not true.
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Chris4Vols22 said:
I could definitely see, through the RTL, that Scotty doesn't have great handles, that JMac can jump high and dunk hard, Melvin can be really fast, etc. You can formulate these opinions watching them warm up. Tell me how those thoughts are incorrect or invalid.
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It is not true that watching the RTL you can tell a player's strengths and weaknesses; I just don't know what else to say about it.
 
#69
#69
JZVOL said:
It is not true that watching the RTL you can tell a player's strengths and weaknesses; I just don't know what else to say about it.
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Exactly. Watching Hopson go against LMU kids doesn't exactly tell you what he needs to work on and what he's good at.
 
#70
#70
MikeHamiltonFan said:
Awesome logic. I hope NBA scouts are in attendance when we play our untelevised SEC games, or else they will mean nothing!

I said you cannot extrapolate. Is reading a struggle?
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As usual, you twist every comment posters make to try to use them in whatever argument you are pursuing that day.
That results in a struggle for anyone attempting to respond to your garbage.
 
#73
#73
LawVol13 said:
Exactly. Watching Hopson go against LMU kids doesn't exactly tell you what he needs to work on and what he's good at.
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Renaldo averaging 30 and abusing Tyler Summitt is enough for me to extrapolate all I need to when putting the hard data into the flux capacitor while getting the delorean up to 88 MPH
 
#75
#75
JZVOL said:
Renaldo averaging 30 and abusing Tyler Summitt is enough for me to extrapolate all I need to when putting the hard data into the flux capacitor while getting the delorean up to 88 MPH
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Did you notice how high Renaldo got up while rebounding in layup lines? It's clear from that that he's going to dominate the paint when we get into league play this year.
 
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