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#76
#76
Correct, isn't that why they made the connections of the shaft and propellor magnets?

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#84
#84
I've often been amazed at what people get away with saying when they're steering the boat so to speak...but I suppose it is different within the military command structure.

late night?

There are certain details we are not allowed to give out to the public and one of them is the speed of boats. They even go so far as to have no documentation on it so someone can't file a freedom of information act to get it.

If you go to Janes website boats will be listed at ranges like 25+ knots and such information given after that is speculation and Janes makes it clear that it is.
 
#85
#85
late night?

There are certain details we are not allowed to give out to the public and one of them is the speed of boats. They even go so far as to have no documentation on it so someone can't file a freedom of information act to get it.

If you go to Janes website boats will be listed at ranges like 25+ knots and such information given after that is speculation and Janes makes it clear that it is.

I didn't mean the military command structure comment as a jab or anything....I'm just saying that I've worked in controlled environments before and I've been amazed what our leaders got away with saying....we would have been fired for saying some of those things. My comment about the military were meant to inquire whether there are actually penalties (for saying such things) that get enforced more consistently within the military command structure than the civilian leadership hierarchy I've experienced...
 
#86
#86
I didn't mean the military command structure comment as a jab or anything....I'm just saying that I've worked in controlled environments before and I've been amazed what our leaders got away with saying....we would have been fired for saying some of those things. My comment about the military were meant to inquire whether there are actually penalties (for saying such things) that get enforced more consistently within the military command structure than the civilian leadership hierarchy I've experienced...

I know you well enough to know you aren't like BPV :p

And believe me, I understand watching senior officers shoot their mouths off to the press. However I do not have the privilege to see what happens to them behind closed doors. Not yet anyway.
 
#87
#87
I know you well enough to know you aren't like BPV :p

And believe me, I understand watching senior officers shoot their mouths off to the press. However I do not have the privilege to see what happens to them behind closed doors. Not yet anyway.

Well, you know those army guys :p

I did actually see one very high level guy who was fired for what I thought was probably going to far. I think that too often some of these guys lose site of what they know and why they know it. They can be quite proud of something that is classified...and after hearing about the planning for it for a year or three or more in every meeting you go to...when you accomplish it, it's a little too easy to toot (at least a part of) that horn. There has to be an aspect of believing you are above being called out for it....and I would have to imagine that would be different within most of the military command structure where you are constantly reminded of where you stand (by rank).
 
#88
#88
The higher you get in the military the more it becomes political, its just as bad when someone wants fame here as anywhere else. Rank means nothing when you know a defense contractor or political office is beckoning, at least for some.
 
#90
#90
Monterey and TT, there ain't another me. I don't know wrestling, but the guy who regularly said "suck it" comes to mind.
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#92
#92
LA Class fast attack? when you mentioned "black hole of death" I thought of how Tom Clancy described the Ohio's.

Fair enough, now that you mention it that might be where I got that from?

Anyway, the picture I posted was a seawolf fast attack, the new NSSN virginia class fast attack should be awesome! Ballistic subs bore me.

Sorry no real pictures.
 

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