Mendenhall Osama Quotes

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"There is not an ignorant bone in my body. I just encourage you to think."
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"Anyone with knowledge of the slave trade and the NFL could say that these two parallel eachother," Mendenhall posted at the time.
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he can say what he wants and others have the right to criticize him for it. Not sure I get the unhealthy part
 
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utvolpj said:
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he can say what he wants and others have the right to criticize him for it. Not sure I get the unhealthy part
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Yeah, I'm not talking about either one of those quotes, and we are fine to criticize him, but there is no reason for anger and outrage. People should think long and hard about celebrating death in any form.

I can understand people celebrating if they thought it meant troops are coming home, but they aren't coming home and that's not what they were celebrating. I feel like chanting "USA!" comes off like Americans are excited about their newly established street cred when I think we should be solemnly remembering the lives destroyed by Bin Laden.
 
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nbakerld said:
Yeah, I'm not talking about either one of those quotes, and we are fine to criticize him, but there is no reason for anger and outrage. People should think long and hard about celebrating death in any form.

I can understand people celebrating if they thought it meant troops are coming home, but they aren't coming home and that's not what they were celebrating. I feel like chanting "USA!" comes off like Americans are excited about their newly established street cred when I think we should be solemnly remembering the lives destroyed by Bin Laden.
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I had mixed emotions seeing the spontaneous celebrations. I think of my thoughts when seeing "militants" in other countries celebrating hatred and burning flags, and wonder if others see us the same way. I understand (and feel) the national pride and hope that the celebrations are more for that than the actual death. That said, his crimes were heinous and he deserved whatever he got.
 
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"What kind of person celebrates death? It's amazing how people can HATE a man they have never even heard speak. We've only heard one side..."
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well that's a pretty ignorant quote. I can think of thousands of people who have every right to hate the man
 
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utvolpj said:
well that's a pretty ignorant quote. I can think of thousands of people who have every right to hate the man
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Well, I agree that it's OK to hate Osama, but that's because I think there are certain circumstances where I hate is an acceptable emotion. Some people disagree. Some think hate is never appropriate (Jesus). Maybe that's Mendenhall. I don't really know where he's coming from.
 
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Don't see the huge deal. More feigned outrage here. As a public personality he maybe should have anticipated this and withheld his comments, but if he wishes to opine, so be it.
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the "We've only heard one side" part tells me where he's coming from
 
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volmanbill said:
I had mixed emotions seeing the spontaneous celebrations. I think of my thoughts when seeing "militants" in other countries celebrating hatred and burning flags, and wonder if others see us the same way. I understand (and feel) the national pride and hope that the celebrations are more for that than the actual death. That said, his crimes were heinous and he deserved whatever he got.
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In my opinion (and I realize I am in the minority) a feeling of national pride is not really an appropriate response, either. I am not saying people should be ashamed they felt that way, I get it, but 9/11, and the Osama hunt wer never about national pride for me.
 
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utvolpj said:
the "We've only heard one side" part tells me where he's coming from
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Maybe he's frustrated. Like me. I believe that Osama bin Laden deserved death, don't get me wrong. But 9/11 was retaliation for our meddling in the middle east. 9/11 led to more meddling in the middle east. Which means we should probably expect more retaliation.

Osama told us they retaliated specifically for our meddling, but we don't listen to "his side", we listen to the talking heads who say they attacked us for our freedom. This inevitably dooms us to a never-ending war on the faceless enemy called "terror".

That being said, I highly doubt Mendenhall has put this all together or that this is what he meant.
 
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nbakerld said:
Maybe he's frustrated. Like me. I believe that Osama bin Laden deserved death, don't get me wrong. But 9/11 was retaliation for our meddling in the middle east. 9/11 led to more meddling in the middle east. Which means we should probably expect more retaliation.

Osama told us they retaliated specifically for our meddling, but we don't listen to "his side", we listen to the talking heads who say they attacked us for our freedom. This inevitably dooms us to a never-ending war on the faceless enemy called "terror".

That being said, I highly doubt Mendenhall has put this all together or that this is what he meant.
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Reach much?
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utvolpj said:
so we only got what we deserved?
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I didn't say that at all. That's an ignorant conclusion. Whether or not we deserved it is not the issue (and no civilians deserve that). That's how they fight, and if we provoke them we should expect retaliation (expect =/= deserve). I don't want 9/11 to happen again. That's what I'm concerned about.
 
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it was our fault that 3000 civilians were killed by airplanes on US soil.

You may not have said that exactly but your rationale is very common when blaming the US for 9/11
 
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utvolpj said:
it was our fault that 3000 civilians were killed by airplanes on US soil.

You may not have said that exactly but your rationale is very common when blaming the US for 9/11
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I am not really aware of anybody (besides truther conspiracy theorists) who blame the US for 9/11. People like myself and Ron Paul constantly are accused of saying we blame the US, but we do not. We just recognize that the US could take better measures to avoid making enemies in the middle east. This is almost always misunderstood (this happens when you question the status quo) and people come back with emotionally charged responses.
 
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NYYVol said:
Disclaim all you wish. But meddling causing 9/11 sounds fishy to me.
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Oh, that was the reach you are talking about?

If you don't believe it was retaliation for our meddling, just listen to what Osama had to say on the matter. They never messed with us until we had been messing with them for decades.

Supposedly they attacked us because of our freedom and religion, but last I checked Canada is largely Christian. Canada ranks ahead of the US in economic freedom. Why not attack Canada? Maybe it's because they don't have a military presence in the middle east?
 
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emotionally charged? My response was not. You can claim you are misunderstood and just "questioning the status quo" all you want but what you are actually doing is making excuses for the 19 men who killed 3k people on US soil. In doing so you are placing the rest of that blame on the US
 
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nbakerld said:
Why not attack Canada? Maybe it's because they don't have a military presence in the middle east?
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or maybe because it doesn't have the same wow factor as hitting the US to try and make their point
 
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I’m not sure people are necessarily angry about this, it’s just sort of embarrassing…for him. It’s always fine to make a political statement, just at least sort of know what you’re talking about first. When he said that we’ve only heard half of the story, that just tells so much about his knowledge of the situation.
As for the celebrating a man’s death (no matter who it is), I get it that we should strive to be better than that. I think it’s important after a situation like this to remember who you are as a person when celebrating death. Celebrate the death of what this man represents, which is evil. Still, it’s tough sometimes. I remember being all about the song “Bodies” when 911 happened. I heard it again yesterday while people were cheering on the radio, and it just made me feel uncomfortable.
 
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utvolpj said:
emotionally charged? My response was not. You can claim you are misunderstood and just "questioning the status quo" all you want but what you are actually doing is making excuses for the 19 men who killed 3k people on US soil. In doing so you are placing the rest of that blame on the US
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Wow. You get emotional past the point of reason. How have I made any excuse for them? This is about practicality, not some sort of blame game. I do not want to be attacked again. That is all.
 
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it's not emotional when it's just presenting facts. You claim if the US had not been "meddling" in the ME that these men would not have killed US citizens. Does that not put blame on the US?
 
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utvolpj said:
or maybe because it doesn't have the same wow factor as hitting the US to try and make their point
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That's narcissistic. They didn't attack us because of our meddling in the middle east (like they told us). They attacked us because we are awesome!

Think about it like this. If another country had been manipulating events in our region of the world for a few decades and siding with our enemies, do you think we'd be a little pissed about it? First, we wouldn't allow it. Second, it doesn't give us an excuse to kill civilians, but we would find a way to fight back (and unfortunately America also has proven they ain't above killing civilians). Their methods of fighting back are pretty much limited. They can't fight us face to face, and making an irrational group like fundamental Muslims an enemy puts our civilians in harm's way.
 
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