Miami vs Duke

[MySourceSaid]

Duke got big time screwed on one of the greatest plays you'll ever see, but...you know, maybe don't allow eight laterals in the first place? JMO.

One of those laterals was on a downed knee, and two blocks in the back were called off for whatever reason.. Duke was screwed

 

[Boca Vol]

I actually watched the play live on TV and I thought the flag was for the players running on the field before the carrier reached the end zone.

#11 was on the sideline at the 50 as the play is happening. He starts chasing the play down the sideline and enters the field when the carrier was at the 25....without his helmet on!

Incredible play but littered with penalties.

 

[ZZ13]

Somewhat interesting that both this play and the famous 1982 Cal/Stanford play had players clearly down before they lateraled. Cal also had about a 2 yard forward lateral that looked backward because both players were moving at high speed.

I would hate to be an official on the field during these plays. With all the change of direction of the players due to the laterals, it would seem almost impossible to judge infractions in real time.

 

[Boca Vol]

Somewhat interesting that both this play and the famous 1982 Cal/Stanford play had players clearly down before they lateraled. Cal also had about a 2 yard forward lateral that looked backward because both players were moving at high speed.

I would hate to be an official on the field during these plays. With all the change of direction of the players due to the laterals, it would seem almost impossible to judge infractions in real time.

It "should" be easier in today's world with replay. There was no way to get the call correct in the Cal/Stanford game.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Somewhat interesting that both this play and the famous 1982 Cal/Stanford play had players clearly down before they lateraled. Cal also had about a 2 yard forward lateral that looked backward because both players were moving at high speed.

I would hate to be an official on the field during these plays. With all the change of direction of the players due to the laterals, it would seem almost impossible to judge infractions in real time.

Yeah but with replay and much more advanced cameras and camera work, there's no excuse to miss the one player's knee clearly being down nor players running on the field with no helmet before the play was over.

I don't fault them so much for missing it real time but there is no way in hades they should have missed them on replay.

 

[Boca Vol]

Yeah but with replay and much more advanced cameras and camera work, there's no excuse to miss the one player's knee clearly being down nor players running on the field with no helmet before the play was over.

I don't fault them so much for missing it real time but there is no way in hades they should have missed them on replay.

I don't think there was a television angle that showed the Miami player "clearly" down.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

I don't think there was a television angle that showed the Miami player "clearly" down.

i thought the one we had was pretty clear he was down.

 

[SDV]

I said nothing about respect. I am a coach myself and there's know one I respect more as a coach, so be careful about throwing the ingnorance comment around. I simply think that Cut gets too much of a pass from us Tennessee fans for passing on this job. Basically he chose Duke over us, if he wanted to be the HFC at Tenn he would have came, staff or no staff.

Classic

 

[rocketskates]

Even if he wasn't down, it was a clear block in the back. A lot of teams having some Tennessee type luck lately.

 

[Burhead]

Duke got big time screwed on one of the greatest plays you'll ever see, but...you know, maybe don't allow eight laterals in the first place? JMO.

They didn't, the refs just missed it. Not to mention 2 or 3 blocks in the back and a Miami player running on to the field from the sideline without his helmet on prior to the return man entering the end zone.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

You must be a "Dookie" Durham boy

You don't even want to go down this road with me. I'm cool with a lot of UNC fans on this board like Volprof and other guys because they know what they are talking about and I know what I'm talking about when it comes to Duke/UNC rivalry. If you want to call me "durham boy" and talk UNC be my guest, because I will shred you. I've probably forgotten more UNC athletics than you'll ever know and I HATE CAROLINA.

 

[Boca Vol]

i thought the one we had was pretty clear he was down.

There was a camera view that seemed to show it but the replay official wouldn't have access to that. Was the coming out when the knee touched? Tough to overture.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

They didn't, the refs just missed it. Not to mention 2 or 3 blocks in the back and a Miami player running on to the field from the sideline without his helmet on prior to the return man entering the end zone.

I still believe only 1 of the blocks in back was legit. Even with the mistakes I still think it was terrible special team play by Duke.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Cut got hosed.

 

[VolsSportsFan]

There was a camera view that seemed to show it but the replay official wouldn't have access to that. Was the coming out when the knee touched? Tough to overture.

They had access to what we saw, and that was pretty clear to me. The ball was in his hand and the knee was down.

 

[Caculator]

They had access to what we saw, and that was pretty clear to me. The ball was in his hand and the knee was down.

He used the downed knee for leverage on the flip backwards.

 

[Velo Vol]

As always, too late

ACC Announces Officiating Suspensions Following the Miami at Duke

The replay official erred in not overturning the ruling on the field that the Miami player had released the ball prior to his knee being down. If called, this would have ended the game.

The on-field officials erred by failing to penalize Miami for an illegal block in the back at the Miami 16-yard line. If called, the ball would have been placed at the Miami 8-yard line and the game would have been extended for an untimed down.

A block in the back foul was called at the Duke 26-yard line. After the officials conferred, which is appropriate, they correctly determined that the block was from the side, which resulted in the flag being picked up. The replay official was not involved in the decision to pick up the flag; however, the referee did not effectively manage communication and properly explain why the flag was picked up.

In addition, the on-field crew failed to penalize a Miami player for leaving the bench area and entering the field prior to the end of the play. This foul would not have negated the touchdown because it would have been enforced as a dead ball foul.

 

[SDV]

Man they got totally screwed over

 

[VolsSportsFan]

Wait so the player running on the field with his helmet off would NOT have taken the TD off the board? Why not, the play wasn't dead because the Miami player hadn't scored yet.

 

[bamawriter]

Those officials don't need to be suspended, they need to be fired.

Also, I hope those who questioned me last night note that a block in the back would have given Miami an untimed down.

 

[Burhead]

I think the ACC really needs to step up and reverse the game in Duke's favor. This loss has ACC Championship Game implications for Duke.

 

[2vol0]

So by saying the guy that ran on the field without a helmet cant take the touchdown away because it would be a dead ball foul right? By saying that someone can run on the field and tackle somebody thats breaking a long run that may win the game. I really think this rule need ls changed or will be some crazy people that will do it jus cause they can.

 

[vols-1]

The reversed block in the back call shouldn't have even mattered:

Miami player was clearly down before the ball left his hand.

These refs need to be fired on the spot. I don't care if it takes 10 minutes or 10 hours, just look at all the evidence and make the right call. There's no need to rush a decision.

 

[Velo Vol]

I think the ACC really needs to step up and reverse the game in Duke's favor. This loss has ACC Championship Game implications for Duke.

With the conference going on record as saying the final play was ruled incorrectly, how can one argue otherwise? There are no other possible hypotheticals, as might be the case if the blown call was earlier in the game.

 

[ZZ13]

Those officials don't need to be suspended, they need to be fired.

Also, I hope those who questioned me last night note that a block in the back would have given Miami an untimed down.

You were correct, sir. Well done.