Mickey Deastone

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turbovol said:
If anything associated with the UT women's basketball team needs to change, it's the Lady Vols name and logo. They should be retired. Seriously. Both the name and the logo are very old and very outdated. I don't know when the Lady Vols logo was first introduced--but I'm sure it goes back to the '80s and has to be close to 40 years old. With its swirly script and baby blue minor color, it's very old-fashioned looking and just not a very strong logo at all. Just the opposite. I think both have been kept because of their association with the Summitt era, but that era has been over for quite some time. You can't hang onto the past forever.

Also, almost nobody refers to their women's athletic teams as "Ladies" anymore. I just checked the Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina and Texas sites---their women's teams are referrred to as Hogs, Wildcats, Gamecocks, and Longhorns--none use the term Lady. Does anybody? Also, I think Tennessee is the only university in America that has separate logos for it's mens and women's team. The time is right to consolidate. The Power T is a very simple and powerful logo--one that connotes strength. It should be used by all our athletic teams--men and women. Maybe the Lady Vols name and logo will just fade away: While on the other SEC women's basketball sites, I noticed they all had the Power T logo beside Tennessee when listed on their schedules. The Lady Vol name and logo certainly served our women's basketball program well for a long time--but it's time to recognize that both are relics of a bygone era in women's athletics and really should be retired.
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turbovol said:
If anything associated with the UT women's basketball team needs to change, it's the Lady Vols name and logo. They should be retired. Seriously. Both the name and the logo are very old and very outdated. I don't know when the Lady Vols logo was first introduced--but I'm sure it goes back to the '80s and has to be close to 40 years old. With its swirly script and baby blue minor color, it's very old-fashioned looking and just not a very strong logo at all. Just the opposite. I think both have been kept because of their association with the Summitt era, but that era has been over for quite some time. You can't hang onto the past forever.

Also, almost nobody refers to their women's athletic teams as "Ladies" anymore. I just checked the Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina and Texas sites---their women's teams are referrred to as Hogs, Wildcats, Gamecocks, and Longhorns--none use the term Lady. Does anybody? Also, I think Tennessee is the only university in America that has separate logos for it's mens and women's team. The time is right to consolidate. The Power T is a very simple and powerful logo--one that connotes strength. It should be used by all our athletic teams--men and women. Maybe the Lady Vols name and logo will just fade away: While on the other SEC women's basketball sites, I noticed they all had the Power T logo beside Tennessee when listed on their schedules. The Lady Vol name and logo certainly served our women's basketball program well for a long time--but it's time to recognize that both are relics of a bygone era in women's athletics and really should be retired.
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Go away Dave Hart. You’re not wanted anymore. In fact, you were never wanted.
 
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turbovol said:
If anything associated with the UT women's basketball team needs to change, it's the Lady Vols name and logo. They should be retired. Seriously. Both the name and the logo are very old and very outdated. I don't know when the Lady Vols logo was first introduced--but I'm sure it goes back to the '80s and has to be close to 40 years old. With its swirly script and baby blue minor color, it's very old-fashioned looking and just not a very strong logo at all. Just the opposite. I think both have been kept because of their association with the Summitt era, but that era has been over for quite some time. You can't hang onto the past forever.

Also, almost nobody refers to their women's athletic teams as "Ladies" anymore. I just checked the Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina and Texas sites---their women's teams are referrred to as Hogs, Wildcats, Gamecocks, and Longhorns--none use the term Lady. Does anybody? Also, I think Tennessee is the only university in America that has separate logos for it's mens and women's team. The time is right to consolidate. The Power T is a very simple and powerful logo--one that connotes strength. It should be used by all our athletic teams--men and women. Maybe the Lady Vols name and logo will just fade away: While on the other SEC women's basketball sites, I noticed they all had the Power T logo beside Tennessee when listed on their schedules. The Lady Vol name and logo certainly served our women's basketball program well for a long time--but it's time to recognize that both are relics of a bygone era in women's athletics and really should be retired.
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Nothing like waking up Christmas morning and having a Hart flashback. Ugh
 
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volman128 said:
... Mickey was good back in the day. ...
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I think Mickey calls the game at the excitement level and pace that the game is being played. Back in the day, the LVs either played faster, or, because of the talent on the court, it seemed faster because each person who touched the ball was capable of a score or assist on a second's notice. That constant anticipation--along with the excitement generated by larger crowds--was reflected in Mickey's game call.

What follows is not a criticism: We are building and growing, and the goal is to win games by any means within the rules. But right now, would anyone who didn't love the LVs say that we play an exciting brand of basketball? Mickey has time to opine about other aspects of the game during play. I'm grateful he doesn't use that time to share recipes or tell us where he ate last night.

If you want your radio game call experience to raise your excitement, balance a cup of hot tea on your head and stand on one foot while you listen. Don't burden the announcer to create more than is happening.
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Late caveat: My opinion may be skewed because I haven't had TV for 5 years, so I get all my Vols by radio, then later pull up video highlights of the games, if posted. LOL--compared to my life, Mickey Dearstone is Ray Hudson!
 
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I would rather hear John Wilkerson or Bert Bertlecamp broadcast a Vol or Lady Vol basketball game than Kesling or Dearstone.
 
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VolunteerNut said:
I know he has been broadcasting for 22 years but every time I listen to him it's painful. I'm sure he's a very fine person but he's so monotone and rather boring to listen to. Hope it's not just me but I'd take Bob Kesling over Mickey ANY DAY~.
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Bob Kesling made more than a few errors identifying Lady Vols and calling the Chattanooga game.
 
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turbovol said:
If anything associated with the UT women's basketball team needs to change, it's the Lady Vols name and logo. They should be retired. Seriously. Both the name and the logo are very old and very outdated. I don't know when the Lady Vols logo was first introduced--but I'm sure it goes back to the '80s and has to be close to 40 years old. With its swirly script and baby blue minor color, it's very old-fashioned looking and just not a very strong logo at all. Just the opposite. I think both have been kept because of their association with the Summitt era, but that era has been over for quite some time. You can't hang onto the past forever.

Also, almost nobody refers to their women's athletic teams as "Ladies" anymore. I just checked the Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina and Texas sites---their women's teams are referrred to as Hogs, Wildcats, Gamecocks, and Longhorns--none use the term Lady. Does anybody? Also, I think Tennessee is the only university in America that has separate logos for it's mens and women's team. The time is right to consolidate. The Power T is a very simple and powerful logo--one that connotes strength. It should be used by all our athletic teams--men and women. Maybe the Lady Vols name and logo will just fade away: While on the other SEC women's basketball sites, I noticed they all had the Power T logo beside Tennessee when listed on their schedules. The Lady Vol name and logo certainly served our women's basketball program well for a long time--but it's time to recognize that both are relics of a bygone era in women's athletics and really should be retired.
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So much to disagree with here. But TN is about tradition. And merging the Lady Vols with the power T goes against everything Pat Summit worked for. The women have their own identity.
 
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LadyOrange said:
So much to disagree with here. But TN is about tradition. And merging the Lady Vols with the power T goes against everything Pat Summit worked for. The women have their own identity.
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Considering how often posters wander in thinking they're in the men's forum, anything we can do to distinguish between the two programs is handy.
 
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I love Mickey as the Lady Vols broadcaster. Love his old school style and sometimes he cracks me up telling it like it is. I also love that, as many of you pointed out, he sticks to calling the game and does not stray off into telling us what he had for dinner, etc.

I may be biased, as my son was very fond of Mickey when he worked for the LVs while in school. He traveled with the team back then (don’t think he does now) so my son got to interact with him a lot. He is a very nice person, and according to my son, he is hilarious.
 
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turbovol said:
If anything associated with the UT women's basketball team needs to change, it's the Lady Vols name and logo. They should be retired. Seriously. Both the name and the logo are very old and very outdated. I don't know when the Lady Vols logo was first introduced--but I'm sure it goes back to the '80s and has to be close to 40 years old. With its swirly script and baby blue minor color, it's very old-fashioned looking and just not a very strong logo at all. Just the opposite. I think both have been kept because of their association with the Summitt era, but that era has been over for quite some time. You can't hang onto the past forever.

Also, almost nobody refers to their women's athletic teams as "Ladies" anymore. I just checked the Arkansas, Kentucky, South Carolina and Texas sites---their women's teams are referrred to as Hogs, Wildcats, Gamecocks, and Longhorns--none use the term Lady. Does anybody? Also, I think Tennessee is the only university in America that has separate logos for it's mens and women's team. The time is right to consolidate. The Power T is a very simple and powerful logo--one that connotes strength. It should be used by all our athletic teams--men and women. Maybe the Lady Vols name and logo will just fade away: While on the other SEC women's basketball sites, I noticed they all had the Power T logo beside Tennessee when listed on their schedules. The Lady Vol name and logo certainly served our women's basketball program well for a long time--but it's time to recognize that both are relics of a bygone era in women's athletics and really should be retired.
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I disagree. I had ten times the interest in women's basketball when they were known as Lady Vols. As to success? We have had more with the Lady moniker than they have sporting the power T. If every other college wants to dump it? Hey I don't care. If Tennessee stands alone doing it? I am cool with that too. I say keep it, and to Hell with anyone who doesn't like it.
 
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LadyOrange said:
So much to disagree with here. But TN is about tradition. And merging the Lady Vols with the power T goes against everything Pat Summit worked for. The women have their own identity.
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Let' pursue this: You say that the power T goes against everything that Summitt (note the proper spelling) worked for. First, that's kind of a silly comment, since the Power T is merely the school's main athletic logo and doesn't "go against" anything. Moreover, what did Summitt work for? More equality for women and female athletes and athletics? That's what I'd say. So why would you want to call them "ladies"--an antiquated term that dates back to an era when women certainly were not on equal footing with men in any way? All Tennessee student-athletes represent...get this...The University of Tennessee. That's why every school in American but UT has a single logo--and I don't think there is another women's program in America that still uses the term "lady" before the school nickname. Many used to--none but the Vols do now. In any case, I get that there are a lot of UT women's BB fans who are attached to the old name and logo, because of its association with Summitt, but you can't hang onto the past forever, and we don't need to hang onto a weak-looking 40-50-year-old logo to remember Summitt. There are plenty of other ways to do that---starting with a statue in front of the building. I'd argue that trying to hang onto the past has not been good for the program. We did that with the Warlick hire--disastrous--and then Fulmer did the same thing with the next hire, another former.. Lady Vol. We'll see how that works out. It's been nearly 23 years since we last won a national championship. Think about that. It's rather shocking to realize that it's been that long. Sobering. We can, as they say, agree to disagree.
 
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turbovol said:
Let' pursue this: You say that the power T goes against everything that Summitt (note the proper spelling) worked for. First, that's kind of a silly comment, since the Power T is merely the school's main athletic logo and doesn't "go against" anything. Moreover, what did Summitt work for? More equality for women and female athletes and athletics? That's what I'd say. So why would you want to call them "ladies"--an antiquated term that dates back to an era when women certainly were not on equal footing with men in any way? All Tennessee student-athletes represent...get this...The University of Tennessee. That's why every school in American but UT has a single logo--and I don't think there is another women's program in America that still uses the term "lady" before the school nickname. Many used to--none but the Vols do now. In any case, I get that there are a lot of UT women's BB fans who are attached to the old name and logo, because of its association with Summitt, but you can't hang onto the past forever, and we don't need to hang onto a weak-looking 40-50-year-old logo to remember Summitt. There are plenty of other ways to do that---starting with a statue in front of the building. I'd argue that trying to hang onto the past has not been good for the program. We did that with the Warlick hire--disastrous--and then Fulmer did the same thing with the next hire, another former.. Lady Vol. We'll see how that works out. It's been nearly 23 years since we last won a national championship. Think about that. It's rather shocking to realize that it's been that long. Sobering. We can, as they say, agree to disagree.
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Wow. I think someone slept through first grade counting exercises.
 
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turbovol said:
Let' pursue this: You say that the power T goes against everything that Summitt (note the proper spelling) worked for. First, that's kind of a silly comment, since the Power T is merely the school's main athletic logo and doesn't "go against" anything. Moreover, what did Summitt work for? More equality for women and female athletes and athletics? That's what I'd say. So why would you want to call them "ladies"--an antiquated term that dates back to an era when women certainly were not on equal footing with men in any way? All Tennessee student-athletes represent...get this...The University of Tennessee. That's why every school in American but UT has a single logo--and I don't think there is another women's program in America that still uses the term "lady" before the school nickname. Many used to--none but the Vols do now. In any case, I get that there are a lot of UT women's BB fans who are attached to the old name and logo, because of its association with Summitt, but you can't hang onto the past forever, and we don't need to hang onto a weak-looking 40-50-year-old logo to remember Summitt. There are plenty of other ways to do that---starting with a statue in front of the building. I'd argue that trying to hang onto the past has not been good for the program. We did that with the Warlick hire--disastrous--and then Fulmer did the same thing with the next hire, another former.. Lady Vol. We'll see how that works out. It's been nearly 23 years since we last won a national championship. Think about that. It's rather shocking to realize that it's been that long. Sobering. We can, as they say, agree to disagree.
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turbovol said:
Let' pursue this: You say that the power T goes against everything that Summitt (note the proper spelling) worked for. First, that's kind of a silly comment, since the Power T is merely the school's main athletic logo and doesn't "go against" anything. Moreover, what did Summitt work for? More equality for women and female athletes and athletics? That's what I'd say. So why would you want to call them "ladies"--an antiquated term that dates back to an era when women certainly were not on equal footing with men in any way? All Tennessee student-athletes represent...get this...The University of Tennessee. That's why every school in American but UT has a single logo--and I don't think there is another women's program in America that still uses the term "lady" before the school nickname. Many used to--none but the Vols do now. In any case, I get that there are a lot of UT women's BB fans who are attached to the old name and logo, because of its association with Summitt, but you can't hang onto the past forever, and we don't need to hang onto a weak-looking 40-50-year-old logo to remember Summitt. There are plenty of other ways to do that---starting with a statue in front of the building. I'd argue that trying to hang onto the past has not been good for the program. We did that with the Warlick hire--disastrous--and then Fulmer did the same thing with the next hire, another former.. Lady Vol. We'll see how that works out. It's been nearly 23 years since we last won a national championship. Think about that. It's rather shocking to realize that it's been that long. Sobering. We can, as they say, agree to disagree.
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Your flippancy and arrogance are nauseating. Yeah, my fingers missed a “t.” Screw it, asshat. There’s nothing silly about my comment. My comment expresses how a majority of Lady Vols’ fans feel about the logo, including me, a strong feminist who understands the power of language.
 
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This is a messy time for all women's sports. On one side there are fans and marketers who would prefer an image of Lady Vols as the Power-T & A, while at the same time, there are societal regulatory influences contending that the future of women's sports is a Y chromosome.

I don't know where all this shakes out, but this I do know: It takes two generations, 35-50 years, to build a new tradition. Tradition creates passion (witness the emotion of UTC player Abbey Cornelius) and the more teams jettison their own traditions, the stronger and more conspicuously ours will stand.

This is not the time to throw away good. Especially when it was built on, and is pursuing again, excellence.
 
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I appreciate Mickey Dearstone (or Deastone for some) for what he does. I get it some may not like his voice or his rugged good looks (haha) but he is the one doing it now, and IMO, getting it done. I guess, as a fan, its easy to expect perfection. I personally think that job would be pretty hard to do. Limited resources, budget constraints.... I doubt he makes a lot of money doing it so I appreciate him giving his considerable time and effort to bring the game to the fans.
 
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BruisedOrange said:
This is a messy time for all women's sports. On one side there are fans and marketers who would prefer an image of Lady Vols as the Power-T & A, while at the same time, there are societal regulatory influences contending that the future of women's sports is a Y chromosome.

I don't know where all this shakes out, but this I do know: It takes two generations, 35-50 years, to build a new tradition. Tradition creates passion (witness the emotion of UTC player Abbey Cornelius) and the more teams jettison their own traditions, the stronger and more conspicuously ours will stand.

This is not the time to throw away good. Especially when it was built on, and is pursuing again, excellence.
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Yeah, just look how those ugly, old throwback uniforms have hurt 'Bama football.

(Apologies for reference to Humanity's Scourge).
 
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