Migration Nightmares Hitting Europe

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GoBigOrangeUT said:
Uh. I’m not quite sure how to respond to this.
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Why not? Operation Paperclip was the program that took German scientists whom were also Nazi party members by decree of Hitler and brought them to the US. Our space program was literally built by former Nazi party members. The program was call “paperclip” because the folders on individuals were marked with a paper clip to indicate to screeners to not look too close. Over the decades a small number were determined to have clear ties to war atrocities and were deported back to Germany to be dealt with or escaped to friendlier areas like Argentina. There were I think a couple of thousand scientists and their families that fit this bill.

But yeah that’s just like 4 or 5 murders sitting on their asses on government welfare here. LMAO!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Why not? Operation Paperclip was the program that took German scientists whom were also Nazi party members by decree of Hitler and brought them to the US. Our space program was literally built by former Nazi party members. The program was call “paperclip” because the folders on individuals were marked with a paper clip to indicate to screeners to not look too close. Over the decades a small number were determined to have clear ties to war atrocities and were deported back to Germany to be dealt with or escaped to friendlier areas like Argentina. There were I think a couple of thousand scientists and their families that fit this bill.

But yeah that’s just like 4 or 5 murders sitting on their asses on government welfare here. LMAO!
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All that to say we took in Nazi war criminals. Glad to clear that up. Now use your thinking cap. What is difference between that and Britain taking in Rwandan genocide criminals? Since that was the original comment?
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
All that to say we took in Nazi war criminals. Glad to clear that up. Now use your thinking cap. What is difference between that and Britain taking in Rwandan genocide criminals? Since that was the original comment?
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I already explained that in the last sentence above. And I also pointed out that as individuals were determined to have close ties to war atrocities either directly or by close association they were dealt with.

Now YOU show equivalence to paper clip and these known war criminals living off the government tit.

You’re trying to equate forced Nazi party membership with being an established war criminal. I repeat... LMFAO!
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
I already explained that in the last sentence above. And I also pointed out that as individuals were determined to have close ties to war atrocities either directly or by close association they were dealt with.

Now YOU show equivalence to paper clip and these known war criminals living off the government tit.

You’re trying to equate forced Nazi party membership with being an established war criminal. I repeat... LMFAO!
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Forced Nazi party membership. Wow. So now it’s okay to be complicit in war crimes or to actively engage in war crimes because “you had no choice”.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
You’re defending people who engaged in or were complicit to the murder of millions of people. You do you.
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And you keep on virtue signaling. It’s all you’ve got after all.

Here is a decent neutral narrative in the most famous of these individuals that you’re virtue signaling over. BTW didn’t I see you fawning over in the space thread about the upcoming manned launch? Be sure to thank Von Braun for that.

In the case of operation paperclip the phrase “it’s complicated” was exactly created for. And yeah that’s just like these Rwandans sitting in their asses on welfare 😂

Was Wernher von Braun really a Nazi?
 
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And as to your “living off the government tit” comment, you claim yourself they were hired by the government for the scientific prowess. Last I checked, government workers receive healthcare paid for by tax payers, salaries paid for by tax payers and funding paid for by tax payers. So yes, by definition, they were living off the “government tit”.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
And you keep on virtue signaling. It’s all you’ve got after all.

Here is a decent neutral narrative in the most famous of these individuals that you’re virtue signaling over. BTW didn’t I see you fawning over in the space thread about the upcoming manned launch? Be sure to thank Von Braun for that.

In the case of operation paperclip the phrase “it’s complicated” was exactly created for. And yeah that’s just like these Rwandans sitting in their asses on welfare 😂

Was Wernher von Braun really a Nazi?
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Why the **** are you caught up on one guy?
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
And as to your “living off the government tit” comment, you claim yourself they were hired by the government for the scientific prowess. Last I checked, government workers receive healthcare paid for by tax payers, salaries paid for by tax payers and funding paid for by tax payers. So yes, by definition, they were living off the “government tit”.
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😂 yeah that’s exactly what it means. So what reciprocal skill are the Rwanda’s providing?

Keep on virtue signaling.

🤣🤣🤣
 
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This comment will be deleted but oh well.

You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you’re too stupid to have a conversation with. Either way I’m done.
 
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GoBigOrangeUT said:
This comment will be deleted but oh well.

You’re either being intentionally obtuse or you’re too stupid to have a conversation with. Either way I’m done.
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Go look in a mirror and find the major blockage to your logic. Your virtue signaling. Get over your self righteous self.
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Mass Migration Cost France at Least 6.6 Billion Euros in 2019

France spent €6.6 billion on immigration in 2019, handing out a total of 276,576 residency permits.

The Court of Auditors’ report states that while France receives far fewer migrants through legal means than countries such as the United Kingdom, Germany, or Sweden per 1,000 inhabitants, it continues to receive high numbers of illegal migrants and asylum seekers.

In 2019, “154,620 asylum requests were registered, placing France in the high range of the countries of the European Union and its asylum system under heavy stress”, the report states.

Mass Migration Cost France 6.6 Billion Euros in 2019
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But they’ll pay taxes ...... ask Huff
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Why not? Operation Paperclip was the program that took German scientists whom were also Nazi party members by decree of Hitler and brought them to the US. Our space program was literally built by former Nazi party members. The program was call “paperclip” because the folders on individuals were marked with a paper clip to indicate to screeners to not look too close. Over the decades a small number were determined to have clear ties to war atrocities and were deported back to Germany to be dealt with or escaped to friendlier areas like Argentina. There were I think a couple of thousand scientists and their families that fit this bill.

But yeah that’s just like 4 or 5 murders sitting on their asses on government welfare here. LMAO!
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A few? They all had ties to atrocities. Von Braun ran a slave labor camp to help build and assemble his rockets. The ones that got sent back were just the less important or ones who weren't producing.
 
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LouderVol said:
A few? They all had ties to atrocities. Von Braun ran a slave labor camp to help build and assemble his rockets. The ones that got sent back were just the less important or ones who weren't producing.
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Nope they didn’t. They all had Nazi party membership for sure. An no Von Braun didn’t “run a slave labor camp”. Von Braun was a complicated individual and the best description I’ve read on him was a Faustian deal maker.

All Von Braun wanted to do was make rockets. He was actually arrested at one point but released to push the V2 into operation.

They were all Nazi party members. However that was the bar for admission at the time. Comply or be jailed/die. I’m disinclined to sit in judgement on people forced into party membership by necessity.

That is not equivalent to finding out documented war criminals snuck into your country and then blocking their extradition for over a decade and still going while the individuals walk around free. While paperclip was formed from an eye raising perspective as individuals were discovered they were dealt with.

Like I said it’s complicated. No way we were going to let the Russians get the scientists. I guess we could have just locked them up and threw away the key? 🤷‍♂️
 
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