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3. The early read on Trey Smith


Trey Smith
One of the most controversial prospects this recruiting year is Tennessee offensive line commitment Trey Smith.

The reason? One recruiting site made him the No. 1 player in the country and the others, except for Rivals, followed suit by making him a high five-star. I’ve explained in this column our wait-and-see approach on Smith before but now that I have seen him in action in person I can expand a bit.

He’s a great-looking kid. He has zero bad weight, he is physically intimidating and he plays very aggressively. Everyone who knows me knows I like a mean streak in an offensive lineman and Smith has that. Despite the lack of competition he faces during the football season, he didn’t look out of place here on day one and more than held his own in one-on-ones. So all that’s great right? Right. But there are still some issues.

Smith appears to be closer to 6-foot-4 than the 6-foot-6 many have listed him at and he doesn’t have exceptionally long arms. He started off as a guard in practice and, compared to other offensive tackles in this class, he almost looks small (see Wilson, Isaiah or Leatherwood, Alex). So at 6-foot-4 and 300 pounds or so, he’s likely to be an interior lineman at the next level with his highest upside being a right tackle, unless he’s the second coming of former Alabama star Andre Smith who was a shade under 6-foot-4 and became an All American and first round NFL draft pick as a tackle.

So the question is – are we seeing Andre Smith Part II and should have him ranked in the nation top 2 (Smith was No. 2 in 2006 behind Percy Harvin) or are we looking at a very good guard prospect who should be in the 25-100 range (he is currently No. 97 in the country)? Smith won all three of his one-on-one reps Wednesday with excellent technique and footwork, but it was against two very undersized players in Tyree Johnson and Kwity Paye. We will see what happens when he gets tested a bit more this week in practice and the game. And in team play, he was solid but did miss some assignments.

The bottom line, at least for someone like myself who has been doing this for a long, long time and has seen a ton of offensive lineman, is that I didn’t see Andre Smith today but there were many things that impressed me.
 
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His true height and arm length should be easy enough to ascertain, especially at an all star game.
 
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If being closer to 6' 4 and completely dominating smaller D linemen are his "issues", then this Joe Schmo can go chew on a rat terd...
 
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Lmao, they're trying everything in their power to find something wrong with our #1 player in the country.
 
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Amazing how this "expert" talks about how he has done this for a "long, long time" to help justify his rating. Length of time looking at players doesn't mean you know anything. It means that your bias and ineptitude is just more ingrained. I don't how good Trey is or will be, but if all other "experts" AND Saban see something in him, I'll take those opinions.
 
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So at first it was weak competition that kept Rivals from rating him higher, but now that he is dominating good competition, it's the fact that he is an inch shorter than He is listed.

Makes sense
 
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Claims he has short arms which should create issues against quick pass rushers.

Complains that he did well against small pass rushers.


If short arms are your concern, shouldn't winning against undersized pass rushers be seen as a great thing?
 
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All "experts" are is people with opinions....they're wrong all the time. Hell Mel kipper questioned the Colts for drafting Manning over Leaf....no one other than Saban knows whether any of these players will pan out
 
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Not that unfair of a write up.

Basically said they need to see more from him this week before they make him a 5* star because his size might limit him a bit. And if Smith is 6'4, that will limit his potential at LT a bit (though it wouldn't be a nail in a coffin by any means).

Farrell basically just said he knows Smith will be a great OL but he might project him as more of a RT or OG than LT.
 
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Claims he has short arms which should create issues against quick pass rushers.

Complains that he did well against small pass rushers.


If short arms are your concern, shouldn't winning against undersized pass rushers be seen as a great thing?

To be fair, this is a misrepresentation of his concern about arm length. Arm length concerns with OTs are about whether they'll be able to engage well enough against DEs with big wingspans, not about dealing with small pass rushers.
 
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To be fair, this is a misrepresentation of his concern about arm length. Arm length concerns with OTs are about whether they'll be able to engage well enough against DEs with big wingspans, not about dealing with small pass rushers.

With short arms it is incredibly hard to engage smaller, quicker DEs. His point stands.
 
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I don't give three or four sh!ts about what he thinks he knows. The amount of cherry picking these guys do to justify a ranking, that is clearly wrong, is obnoxious.

"Despite what other sites say, his left elbow is too pointy and his right eye twitches when he speaks, therefore we cannot justify a bump in his ranking." Shut up.
 
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Even if Saban is 5'6 or Meyer 5'11, Smith looks at least 6'5.

Plus, those "short" D-Lineman Smith went against today that he did not feel was good enough test for him, are they not All American High School players?!

Doesn't fit his narrative. He has to be right, doesn't matter if Smith is dominating the defensive players he is facing
 
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Claims he has short arms which should create issues against quick pass rushers.

Complains that he did well against small pass rushers.


If short arms are your concern, shouldn't winning against undersized pass rushers be seen as a great thing?

And this is why no one should take the Farrell cats of the world seriously.
 
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