Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

[Orangeburst]

I was wondering if Abbott would just do this himself eventually. It’s going to be interesting to watch unfold as this clearly falls within the federal purview. However with them not acting Texas went it alone. Will be interesting to see if the DOJ tries to sue to block it.

If Texas does this then you could see Arizona following suit eventually. I’d doubt if current New Mexico leadership has interest and I think we all know how California feels

Just call it infrastucture and good to go

 

[McDad]

BREAKING: DeSantis Announces He Will Send Florida Law Enforcement To Assist At Border, Blasts Biden Admin

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) announced Wednesday that he has directed Florida law enforcement officers to assist at the southern border in both Texas and Arizona, answering calls from the states’ governors asking for help.

“The Biden Administration ended policies implemented by President Trump that were curbing illegal immigration, securing our border, and keeping Americans safe,” the Republican continued. “Governors Abbott (of Texas) and Ducey (of Arizona) recently sent out a call for help to every state in the nation, needing additional law enforcement manpower and other resources to aid with border security.”

BREAKING: DeSantis Announces He Will Send Florida Law Enforcement To Assist At Border, Blasts Biden Admin

I think it is wrong for the governor of one state to send his Leo to another state to help. His citizens are paying for the LEOs with their taxes. The other state isn't reimbursing. Plus, fewer leos could put other floridians in danger from crime and criminals.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I think it is wrong for the governor of one state to send his Leo to another state to help. His citizens are paying for the LEOs with their taxes. The other state isn't reimbursing. Plus, fewer leos could put other floridians in danger from crime and criminals.

I agree with you on this one. If this were like a Hurricane or tornado it’s common for other states to help out on EMS and utilities workmen. But if Florida tax dollars are being spent in any capacity enforcing laws in Texas it would piss me off if I was a Florida taxpayer.

If there is some reimbursement then I’d think it’s tenable. My guess is this is more GOP governors doing a token show of “he won’t do it so we’ll do it ourselves.”

It’s gonna be interesting to see if the fed DOJ challenges the Texas wall effort.

 

[Orangeburst]

I think it is wrong for the governor of one state to send his Leo to another state to help. His citizens are paying for the LEOs with their taxes. The other state isn't reimbursing. Plus, fewer leos could put other floridians in danger from crime and criminals.

Just consider it an emergency. LEO's and other assistance are provided across state lines all the time. Rather cool to me and the way it otta work

 

[Orangeburst]

I agree with you on this one. If this were like a Hurricane or tornado it’s common for other states to help out on EMS and utilities workmen. But if Florida tax dollars are being spent in any capacity enforcing laws in Texas it would piss me off if I was a Florida taxpayer.

If there is some reimbursement then I’d think it’s tenable. My guess is this is more GOP governors doing a token show of “he won’t do it so we’ll do it ourselves.”

It’s gonna be interesting to see if the fed DOJ challenges the Texas wall effort.

Dang double F you D!

 

[VolStrom]

I'm sure that Texas and AZ both have unused Covid lottery money they can use to build the wall. Let's face it, if the blue states can use covid money to pay off their debts, surely the red border states can use the same money to protect their border.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Dang double F you D!

 

[McDad]

I agree with you on this one. If this were like a Hurricane or tornado it’s common for other states to help out on EMS and utilities workmen. But if Florida tax dollars are being spent in any capacity enforcing laws in Texas it would piss me off if I was a Florida taxpayer.

If there is some reimbursement then I’d think it’s tenable. My guess is this is more GOP governors doing a token show of “he won’t do it so we’ll do it ourselves.”

It’s gonna be interesting to see if the fed DOJ challenges the Texas wall effort.

Seems like DeSantis is using the State employees to bolster his bona fides for his presidential run.

 

[McDad]

Just consider it an emergency. LEO's and other assistance are provided across state lines all the time. Rather cool to me and the way it otta work

But it isn't an emergency in the typical sense. No Americans are in imminent danger. Americans are going without sanitation, food, water, and shelter.

I applaud states who want to take charge of their border even though I think it is more accurately the US border and not the state's. Those states are on the front lines of the uncontrolled immigration without proper processing.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Seems like DeSantis is using the State employees to bolster his bona fides for his presidential run.

I had that thought too. But it also gives the other party across the aisle the chance to point out what you and I just talked about.

 

[Grand Vol]

I think it is wrong for the governor of one state to send his Leo to another state to help. His citizens are paying for the LEOs with their taxes. The other state isn't reimbursing. Plus, fewer leos could put other floridians in danger from crime and criminals.

I'm pretty sure they've worked something out between the two states. It's not like you can plop down that many LEO's without some sort of support.

ETA: To include picking up the tab on payroll and whatnot

 

[NorthDallas40]

But it isn't an emergency in the typical sense. No Americans are in imminent danger. Americans are going without sanitation, food, water, and shelter.

I applaud states who want to take charge of their border even though I think it is more accurately the US border and not the state's. Those states are on the front lines of the uncontrolled immigration without proper processing.

After we’re done with our southern border we’re finally going to get serious on keeping out those heathen bastards to the north also.

 

[Orangeburst]

But it isn't an emergency in the typical sense. No Americans are in imminent danger. Americans are going without sanitation, food, water, and shelter.

I applaud states who want to take charge of their border even though I think it is more accurately the US border and not the state's. Those states are on the front lines of the uncontrolled immigration without proper processing.

I disagree....citizens are endagnered physically and monetarily

States> Fed

 

[McDad]

I'm pretty sure they've worked something out between the two states. It's not like you can plop down that many LEO's without some sort of support.

ETA: To include picking up the tab on payroll and whatnot

I hope your assumption is accurate. Although, I don't know why it wouldn't be announced.

Do you have any concerns about increased crime or criminal activity with fewer LEOs working in Florida?

 

[Orangeburst]

I hope your assumption is accurate. Although, I don't know why it wouldn't be announced.

Do you have any concerns about increased crime or criminal activity with fewer LEOs working in Florida?

Who says they are street cops?

 

[McDad]

I disagree....citizens are endagnered physically and monetarily

States> Fed

I am sure you can find reports of American citizens harmed by illegal immigrants. But that isn't an emergency like we've come to expect when using the term and sharing resources across state lines.

I don't know about the State>Fed. It SHOULD be. Seem to me last time this board discussed a state taking initiative at the border it was discovered the border is actually under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government because the border belongs to America, not Texas. I am going off memory and hold open the probability I have my wires crossed a bit.

 

[McDad]

Who says they are street cops?

That's a good question. The linked article didn't specify. Assumption on my part.

Is Florida sending detectives, administrators, deputized citizens? I have no idea.

 

[Orangeburst]

I am sure you can find reports of American citizens harmed by illegal immigrants. But that isn't an emergency like we've come to expect when using the term and sharing resources across state lines.

I don't know about the State>Fed. It SHOULD be. Seem to me last time this board discussed a state taking initiative at the border it was discovered the border is actually under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government because the border belongs to America, not Texas. I am going off memory and hold open the probability I have my wires crossed a bit.

You are correct..but a state has a right to enforce illegality according to Fed law.

 

[Grand Vol]

I hope your assumption is accurate. Although, I don't know why it wouldn't be announced.

Do you have any concerns about increased crime or criminal activity with fewer LEOs working in Florida?

Details like that aren't normally as inflammatory as someone actually daring to assume there's a crisis at the border. But anyway...

Not my state, don't live there and I'd be willing to bet the officers will be selected from across the state. Is not like he's sending the entire bureau down. So, a few less speeding tickets on I-10 and 75 aren't written, maybe those left behind have to work an extra shift or two with overtime and loud noise complaints get an extra 20 minutes to be rowdy.

I just hope they aren't sending Broward County Sheriffs down. We know how worthless they are.

 

[McDad]

You are correct..but a state has a right to enforce illegality according to Fed law.

My understanding as well. As I recall the example used previously was if a bank was robbed (federal offense), the state LEOs would have authority, and be expected, to arrest the robber if possible.

 

[McDad]

Details like that aren't normally as inflammatory as someone actually daring to assume there's a crisis at the border. But anyway...

Not my state, don't live there and I'd be willing to bet the officers will be selected from across the state. Is not like he's sending the entire bureau down. So, a few less speeding tickets on I-10 and 75 aren't written, maybe those left behind have to work an extra shift or two with overtime and loud noise complaints get an extra 20 minutes to be rowdy.

I just hope they aren't sending Broward County Sheriffs down. We know how worthless they are.

He can only send State Troopers, correct. He doesn't have say over Sheriff's offices?

If I were a Floridian, I would want to know those details of cost to the state citizens in terms of money (and reimbursement plan from Texas) and decreased LEO coverage.

From personal experience, I would like him to send the toll booth cameras to help in Texas.

 

[Grand Vol]

That's a good question. The linked article didn't specify. Assumption on my part.

Is Florida sending detectives, administrators, deputized citizens? I have no idea.

They should send Florida Man. Nobody wants to encounter him.

 

[Grand Vol]

He can only send State Troopers, correct. He doesn't have say over Sheriff's offices?

If I were a Floridian, I would want to know those details of cost to the state citizens in terms of money (and reimbursement plan from Texas) and decreased LEO coverage.

From personal experience, I would like him to send the toll booth cameras to help in Texas.

There's an article on Yahoo I think that outlines which departments are going. But there are some county departments involved.

 

[Grand Vol]

@McDad

DeSantis sending Florida officers to respond to border crisis in Texas and Arizona

Officers from the Florida Highway Patrol, Florida Department of Law Enforcement, Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission, Brevard County Sheriff’s Office, Escambia County Sheriff’s Office, Hillsborough County Sheriff’s Office, Holmes County Sheriff’s Office, Lee County Sheriff’s Office, Okaloosa County Sheriff’s Office, Pasco County Sheriff’s Office, Santa Rosa County Sheriff’s Office, and Walton County Sheriff’s Office will head roughly 1,000 miles west to the southern border. The Florida Division of Emergency Management will oversee the deployments

 

[McDad]

@McDad

DeSantis sending Florida officers to respond to border crisis in Texas and Arizona

The way the Yahoo article reads to me is it sounds like the LEOs going are "volunteering" to help. It also mentions the difference between LEOs and military like National Guard; I guess the Florida LEOs will need to be deputized in Texas to have authority to arrest?