Millions of Illegal Aliens From All Over The World Head For U.S. Border

[0nelilreb]

we've banned english?

Not banned.. I didn’t say banned , but we do accommodate all the Spanish speaking people in this country that can’t speak English .

 

[LouderVol]

Not banned.. I didn’t say banned , but we do accommodate all the Spanish speaking people in this country that can’t speak English .

you said we have changed our language. we haven't. more options isn't a bad thing. heck I haven't heard of a federal requirement to include spanish. right now its purely a capitalistic thing to offer spanish to increase your consumer base.

 

[0nelilreb]

you said we have changed our language. we haven't. more options isn't a bad thing. heck I haven't heard of a federal requirement to include spanish. right now its purely a capitalistic thing to offer spanish to increase your consumer base.

I said ..” shouldn’t have to “ .

 

[LouderVol]

I said ..” shouldn’t have to “ .

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so only half of those who speak something besides American at home speak Spanish. Go to any mass migration and you will see the same. Germans and Irish come to mind. if it wasn't for Hitler a large number of Americans would still be speaking German at home.

and the 20% is still not saying we SHOULD change anything.

 

[n_huffhines]

you said we have changed our language. we haven't. more options isn't a bad thing. heck I haven't heard of a federal requirement to include spanish. right now its purely a capitalistic thing to offer spanish to increase your consumer base.

It's the same old bad arguments people have been making against immigration for centuries. The Italians did learn our language. The Germans did learn our language. The Hispanics are learning our language.

Freakonomics had a podcast about happiness and they shared a statistical irony...the more the native population resists immigrants, the more immigrants resist assimilation. It makes sense (why would you be gung-ho about assimilation if you feel unwanted?), but it's good to see there is data to back it up.

My parents say they are against immigrants because it's votes for democrats. Not sure why they automatically assume that...I know quite a few 2nd generation Latinos who are more conservative than liberal...but if you treat them like you don't want them, you're probably increasing their chances of going liberal. Food for thought; they're here to stay and there's more to come.

 

[volfanjustin]

MIGRANT CARAVAN SWELLS TO MORE THAN 4,000 - All New Burdens On Taxpayers - Votes For Democrats

Great, more democrat voters

 

[LouderVol]

It's the same old bad arguments people have been making against immigration for centuries. The Italians did learn our language. The Germans did learn our language. The Hispanics are learning our language.

Freakonomics had a podcast about happiness and they shared a statistical irony...the more the native population resists immigrants, the more immigrants resist assimilation. It makes sense (why would you be gung-ho about assimilation if you feel unwanted?), but it's good to see there is data to back it up.

My parents say they are against immigrants because it's votes for democrats. Not sure why they automatically assume that...I know quite a few 2nd generation Latinos who are more conservative than liberal...but if you treat them like you don't want them, you're probably increasing their chances of going liberal. Food for thought; they're here to stay and there's more to come.

I believe it with the assimilation aspect.

 

[C-south]

It's the same old bad arguments people have been making against immigration for centuries. The Italians did learn our language. The Germans did learn our language. The Hispanics are learning our language.

Freakonomics had a podcast about happiness and they shared a statistical irony...the more the native population resists immigrants, the more immigrants resist assimilation. It makes sense (why would you be gung-ho about assimilation if you feel unwanted?), but it's good to see there is data to back it up.

My parents say they are against immigrants because it's votes for democrats. Not sure why they automatically assume that...I know quite a few 2nd generation Latinos who are more conservative than liberal...but if you treat them like you don't want them, you're probably increasing their chances of going liberal. Food for thought; they're here to stay and there's more to come.

Food for thought. Come if you can but you’re not guaranteed to be staying. I don’t think anyone is against immigration just illegal immigration with open borders. I’m sure you would rather help load their donkeys up with blow, weed, and smack and open a B&B in El Paso with free lodging. Your “feels” don’t change the laws and I don’t care if illegal immigrants are against assimilation because legal citizens are for the rule of law. And no I don’t care if you disagree with the law.

 

[0nelilreb]

so only half of those who speak something besides American at home speak Spanish. Go to any mass migration and you will see the same. Germans and Irish come to mind. if it wasn't for Hitler a large number of Americans would still be speaking German at home.

and the 20% is still not saying we SHOULD change anything.

If it wasn’t for the US we would all be speaking German , Russian or Japanese . But we speak English . What I’m saying is if your culture doesn’t protect its language it will lose it . I don’t care how many languages you chose to learn but I prefer to keep the English language as the main one in my country . Call me a protectionist if you want , don’t care I’m not into be a part of the globalist society . Just my personal opinion .

 

[n_huffhines]

Food for thought. Come if you can but you’re not guaranteed to be staying. I don’t think anyone is against immigration just illegal immigration with open borders. I’m sure you would rather help load their donkeys up with blow, weed, and smack and open a B&B in El Paso with free lodging. Your “feels” don’t change the laws and I don’t care if illegal immigrants are against assimilation because legal citizens are for the rule of law. And no I don’t care if you disagree with the law.

This is not true at all. I heard this line on VN all the time leading up to the election. Trump keeps reducing legal immigration and the VN response has been either "good" or uninterested. Not a single ****ing person has responded, "wait, I thought we were for legal immigration?"

 

[tumscalcium]

It's the same old bad arguments people have been making against immigration for centuries. The Italians did learn our language. The Germans did learn our language. The Hispanics are learning our language.

Freakonomics had a podcast about happiness and they shared a statistical irony...the more the native population resists immigrants, the more immigrants resist assimilation. It makes sense (why would you be gung-ho about assimilation if you feel unwanted?), but it's good to see there is data to back it up.

My parents say they are against immigrants because it's votes for democrats. Not sure why they automatically assume that...I know quite a few 2nd generation Latinos who are more conservative than liberal...but if you treat them like you don't want them, you're probably increasing their chances of going liberal. Food for thought; they're here to stay and there's more to come.

1. Italians and Germans had to learn English. Hispanics used to. For some reason we have to adhere to them now.

2. The more they resist the more people are against. These immigrants aren’t coming here to become Americans. They want to keep the **** cultures from the **** countries they’re trying to leave.

3. Trash people vote democrat. There’s nothing positive with wanting to accept more trash people. Our country will be destroyed from within. Stupid people supporting this behavior are trying to accelerate the process.

 

[C-south]

This is not true at all. I heard this line on VN all the time leading up to the election. Trump keeps reducing legal immigration and the VN response has been either "good" or uninterested. Not a single ****ing person has responded, "wait, I thought we were for legal immigration?"

It needs to be reduced. We need to vet immigrants well instead of being a refugee camp. My son in law’s dad is a legal immigrant from El Salvador. I see and interact with legal immigrants every day from India, Laos, China, Nigeria, Mexico, and others. The ones trying to sneak across the border are criminals plain and simple.

 

[n_huffhines]

1. Italians and Germans had to learn English. Hispanics used to. For some reason we have to adhere to them now.

2. The more they resist the more people are against. These immigrants aren’t coming here to become Americans. They want to keep the **** cultures from the **** countries they’re trying to leave.

3. Trash people vote democrat. There’s nothing positive with wanting to accept more trash people.

So you're saying you hate tacos? What are you basing this opinion that they don't assimilate on? I think some older people don't assimilate, but second generation almost always does. I mean, it's been 15 years since I was a missionary, so maybe the younger crop is different (unlikely), but I met thousands and thousands of immigrants on my mission and I can't think of a single kid that resisted becoming American or speaking English. Are we really worried about whether or not that kid's 65 year old grandma ever goes to the movies and eats hamburgers?

The parents lamented kids that didn't speak Spanish well. They were choosing English first, which was common, even in the home. The melting pot doesn't care how much you want to keep your culture. You're going to change us a tiny bit* and we're going to change you a lot. That's how America became great.

*typically incorporating your best ideas/contributions, like tacos, tres leches, artists, comedians, etc.

 

[n_huffhines]

It needs to be reduced. We need to vet immigrants well instead of being a refugee camp. My son in law’s dad is a legal immigrant from El Salvador. I see and interact with legal immigrants every day from India, Laos, China, Nigeria, Mexico, and others. The ones trying to sneak across the border are criminals plain and simple.

Did you write all this with a straight face? You just said nobody is against legal immigration and then told us that you are against legal immigration with the very next post.

 

[C-south]

Did you write all this with a straight face? You just said nobody is against legal immigration and then told us that you are against legal immigration with the very next post.

Where did I say I was against legal immigration?

 

[n_huffhines]

Where did I say I was against legal immigration?

I was talking about legal immigration and you responded "it needs to be reduced".

 

[C-south]

I was talking about legal immigration and you responded "it needs to be reduced".

As far as taking in refugees it most definitely does. Do you think all cultures can assimilate to life in America and be productive citizens?

 

[BearCat204]

This is not true at all. I heard this line on VN all the time leading up to the election. Trump keeps reducing legal immigration and the VN response has been either "good" or uninterested. Not a single ****ing person has responded, "wait, I thought we were for legal immigration?"

Being for legal immigration does not mean you want every single person to come into this country. A point that continually flies about 100 feet over your head.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Being for legal immigration does not mean you want every single person to come into this country. A point that continually flies about 100 feet over your head.

You're arguing with a no-borders anarchist. Why do you waste your time? He presented you an excluded middle because his argument will boil down to an excluded middle.

 

[volfanjustin]

1. Italians and Germans had to learn English. Hispanics used to. For some reason we have to adhere to them now.

2. The more they resist the more people are against. These immigrants aren’t coming here to become Americans. They want to keep the **** cultures from the **** countries they’re trying to leave.

3. Trash people vote democrat. There’s nothing positive with wanting to accept more trash people. Our country will be destroyed from within. Stupid people supporting this behavior are trying to accelerate the process.

Many of all ages refuse to learn English. Some don't want to assimilate and become Americans.

 

[BearCat204]

Many of all ages refuse to learn English. Some don't want to assimilate and become Americans.

But they feel unwanted

 

[BearCat204]

You're arguing with a no-borders anarchist. Why do you waste your time? He presented you an excluded middle because his argument will boil down to an excluded middle.

I am familiar with Huff, we've gone round and round about this for the better part of a decade. I know where he stands

 

[volfanjustin]

But they feel unwanted

Tips to feel wanted:
Come legally
Learn the language
Only speak English
Leave your Mexican flag in Mexico
Don't take any government handouts
Don't murder/rape people

 

[tumscalcium]

It needs to be reduced. We need to vet immigrants well instead of being a refugee camp. My son in law’s dad is a legal immigrant from El Salvador. I see and interact with legal immigrants every day from India, Laos, China, Nigeria, Mexico, and others. The ones trying to sneak across the border are criminals plain and simple.

Legal immigrants aren’t fond of illegals at all.

 

[85SugarVol]

It's the same old bad arguments people have been making against immigration for centuries. The Italians did learn our language. The Germans did learn our language. The Hispanics are learning our language.

Freakonomics had a podcast about happiness and they shared a statistical irony...the more the native population resists immigrants, the more immigrants resist assimilation. It makes sense (why would you be gung-ho about assimilation if you feel unwanted?), but it's good to see there is data to back it up.

My parents say they are against immigrants because it's votes for democrats. Not sure why they automatically assume that...I know quite a few 2nd generation Latinos who are more conservative than liberal...but if you treat them like you don't want them, you're probably increasing their chances of going liberal. Food for thought; they're here to stay and there's more to come.

Did the Italians come legally? Did the Germans? How about the Irish?