Mimi Groves/UT revoked admission

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lawgator1 said:
I thought it did. I left it thinking he's a hateful schmuck who is so jaded by his perception of race relations problems that he can't forgive a simple and quite minor indiscretion.
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I'll disagree. That article was typical of the NYT. Makes a lot of claims based on one person without doing any background work, even included an unnamed "source" and screeched about how racist the school was including a college or two.

The author had a perfect opportunity to actually make that case of how petty and immature the actions of the accuser were and how out of control the "woke" culture is getting.

They failed to do so. UT failed to actually take a reasonable stand on the matter as well. The little vindictive b!tch that released the video failed to realize he's screwed himself by trying to act all high and mighty. He'll get his in due time.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'll disagree. That article was typical of the NYT. Makes a lot of claims based on one person without doing any background work, even included an unnamed "source" and screeched about how racist the school was including a college or two.

The author had a perfect opportunity to actually make that case of how petty and immature the actions of the accuser were and how out of control the "woke" culture is getting.

They failed to do so. UT failed to actually take a reasonable stand on the matter as well. The little vindictive b!tch that released the video failed to realize he's screwed himself by trying to act all high and mighty. He'll get his in due time.
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That part was waaaaaay down in the article. I mean, ok, I somewhat agree that the article tried to cover too many topics: goofy mistake at 15, mean kid uses it to retaliate for his resentments in life, and then why all the resentment in the first place.

But really I thought the meanness of the kid in using it to hurt her like this was far and away the main take away.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Like I say, I think they missed a real opportunity to come out looking thoughtful, reasonable, sensitive but practical and realistic, intellectual, motivated to address important topics, and on and on.

Instead they look afraid.
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How can you use this as a learning/ teaching/ addressing moment when that word is said all the time by black people? If it is so bad and hurtful, why use it? And use it as as badge of honor as they do?
 
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lawgator1 said:
That part was waaaaaay down in the article. I mean, ok, I somewhat agree that the article tried to cover too many topics: goofy mistake at 15, mean kid uses it to retaliate for his resentments in life, and then why all the resentment in the first place.

But really I thought the meanness of the kid in using it to hurt her like this was far and away the main take away.
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It was the bulk of the article.

But I'm glad you've decided to actually be reasonable about the situation as a whole.
 
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Boca Vol said:
How can you use this as a learning/ teaching/ addressing moment when that word is said all the time by black people? If it is so bad and hurtful, why use it? And use it as as badge of honor as they do?
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That's a legitimate point and should have been part of the conversation that UT could have promoted as its reaction to the situation. I think its the "run for cover" aspect of their cowering reaction that makes UT look bad here.
 
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Boca Vol said:
How can you use this as a learning/ teaching/ addressing moment when that word is said all the time by black people? If it is so bad and hurtful, why use it? And use it as as badge of honor as they do?
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Gangsta rap has been embraced as part of black culture and it quickly creeped into the mainstream starting in the 80’s.

This genre makes superfluous use of the slur, but it’s off limits for white people to repeat?? It makes no sense for this guy to be upset or offended by the context of her comment.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a legitimate point and should have been part of the conversation that UT could have promoted as its reaction to the situation. I think its the "run for cover" aspect of their cowering reaction that makes UT look bad here.
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LG, I’m surprised at your take on this given your long history of charging racism.
 
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Grand Vol said:
Eventuality, someone needs to buy and shut down the Times. It's no more of a news source than Infowars these days
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Proper payback would be to force them to stay in business with an OAN slant, and force them to write it or quit.
 
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DC_Vol said:
LG, I’m surprised at your take on this given your long history of charging racism.
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Its possible for the following to coexist in this situation, and in this order:

1) the guy felt over the years that there was a lot of racism in his school environment and that it was not dealt with. RIGHT OR WRONG, that was his perception. And RIGHT OR WRONG he developed a lot of resentment about it.

2) she used poor judgment. Didn't realize it. Didn't think about it. Just blurted it out and put it out there to friends and it circulated.

3) he later used it to, in his mind, get even and to gain some measure of revenge for what he perceived to be a long period of poor treatment based on race.

They are both wrong for different reasons. Personally, I think what he did is substantially worse than what she did.

Enter UT... a chance to first defuse the situation and then a chance to use it as a platform to make itself a conduit for a broader discussion.

And UT completely blew it.
 
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newarkvol said:
My mistake...you were/are referring to the quote attributed to Johnson by Kessler...fair enough. I had forgotten about this. I can absolutely picture lbj uttering these words.

A fantastically flawed man. Also the last democrat with a brass pair that gave a sh** about the working class
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Not many would conduct business in the Oval office butt ass naked.
That is truly fantastically flawed.
Except for the war....you gotta love him, he was human with flaws like all of us. Politicians today have PC television personas with every move and word cultivated by public relation firms.
He knew he was the head cheese and everybody that did not like it could kiss his bare ass.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's a legitimate point and should have been part of the conversation that UT could have promoted as its reaction to the situation. I think its the "run for cover" aspect of their cowering reaction that makes UT look bad here.
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I've asked this question many times on here and never gotten an answer...

If you sat a blind person (from birth) down but had very good hearing. How would anyone explain the "N-word"?
 
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Boca Vol said:
I've asked this question many times on here and never gotten an answer...

If you sat a blind person (from birth) down but had very good hearing. How would anyone explain the "N-word"?
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Are his parents white? Hopefully they explain the complicated history of the relationship between the races and then tell the child that that word is not ok to say in any circumstance.
 
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BayVol7 said:
Are his parents white? Hopefully they explain the complicated history of the relationship between the races and then tell the child that that word is not ok to say in any circumstance.
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Didn't read the article?

His father was white and supposedly he called him out on his white privilege.
 
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So a white kid likes rap music. What's he's supposed to do? Just go silent when the N-word comes up? Again, answer my question from before...If you sat a blind person (from birth) down but had very good hearing. How would anyone explain the "N-word"?
 
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Boca Vol said:
So a white kid likes rap music. What's he's supposed to do? Just go silent when the N-word comes up? Again, answer my question from before...If you sat a blind person (from birth) down but had very good hearing. How would anyone explain the "N-word"?
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I answered your question. I’m not sorry if you do not like the answer. Hopefully they do not say the word thanks to the parenting. Doesn’t mean they still won’t be kids and make mistakes.
 
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BayVol7 said:
I answered your question. I’m not sorry if you do not like the answer. Hopefully they do not say the word thanks to the parenting. Doesn’t mean they still won’t be kids and make mistakes.
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But they hear that word in the songs they love and spoken by their friends, etc. But somehow if they say that word it is devastating?

I'll keep lobbing this back across the net....
 
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Boca Vol said:
But they hear that word in the songs they love and spoken by their friends, etc. But somehow if they say that word it is devastating?

I'll keep lobbing this back across the net....
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Absolutely. And boca vol doesn’t have to understand something for it to make sense.
 
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