Minnesotans starting to figure Tubby out

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Tubby didn't fit at KY because he wouldn't cheat. He won't last at Minnesota because they are also cheaters.
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I wonder if it's Tubby or the program where he coaches that's been to exactly 11 NCAA tourneys in 116 years of basketball. His resume suggests it's the latter.

So when people use the same argument (about program history) to justify Pearl's success here, why do you bash them?

Edit: Although I do agree that Tubby is a solid coach.
 
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Minnestoans need to be complaining about living in Minnesota.

They are lucky to have Tubby coaching that team.
 
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So when people use the same argument (about program history) to justify Pearl's success here, why do you bash them?

Edit: Although I do agree that Tubby is a solid coach.

I don't bash them. I bash people saying that what Pearl has done is unprecedented, and no other coach could think about accomplishing what he has. The only thing Pearl has done that hasn't been done here before is the Elite Eight appearance.
 
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I wonder if it's Tubby or the program where he coaches that's been to exactly 11 NCAA tourneys in 116 years of basketball. His resume suggests it's the latter.

Now that's just crazy talk. Everyone knows that Minnesota has always been a basketball powerhouse. Just look at their record in the few years immediately prior to Tubby's arrival. Truly awesome :crazy::crazy:
 
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So when people use the same argument (about program history) to justify Pearl's success here, why do you bash them?

Edit: Although I do agree that Tubby is a solid coach.

And when Pearl gets a resume that remotely looks like Tubby's, then maybe I'll use the same argument for him.
 
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I don't bash them. I bash people saying that what Pearl has done is unprecedented, and no other coach could think about accomplishing what he has. The only thing Pearl has done that hasn't been done here before is the Elite Eight appearance.

This just makes too much sense for the Pearl apologists to comprehend.
 
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If there was a knock on Tubby it was recruiting. Don't worry Kentucky fans you got the exact opposite of Tubby now, slimy Cal. A guy who has no trouble getting players but can't coach a lick.

Tennessee has his doppleganger except with a little less talent.
 
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Tubby aint a bad coach but he's overated because of the championship with Pitino's players. He reminds me of Coach Gutheridge at UNC after Dean Smith left. Above averge coach but not in the top 10%.
 
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I don't bash them. I bash people saying that what Pearl has done is unprecedented, and no other coach could think about accomplishing what he has. The only thing Pearl has done that hasn't been done here before is the Elite Eight appearance.


The problem is we don't know the alternative. Vying for the SEC regular season titles, knocking off #1's, elite 8, ncaa tourney bids, sweet 16 runs are all things he has done in the past 5 years. Take the 20 yrs prior to BP and compare. Maybe UT does get somebody new in that does well, maybe they don't. I'd go with a top 5 winning % coach that put UT bball on the map.
 
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I wonder if it's Tubby or the program where he coaches that's been to exactly 11 NCAA tourneys in 116 years of basketball. His resume suggests it's the latter.

Some delusional Minnesota fans believe they will actually be relevant without Tubby.
 
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The problem is we don't know the alternative. Vying for the SEC regular season titles, knocking off #1's, elite 8, ncaa tourney bids, sweet 16 runs are all things he has done in the past 5 years. Take the 20 yrs prior to BP and compare. Maybe UT does get somebody new in that does well, maybe they don't. I'd go with a top 5 winning % coach that put UT bball on the map.

That's what I was doing. Jerry Green won the SEC regular season, won the East 2 out of 4 years, and went to 4 consecutive NCAA tourneys, and had a winning percentage almost identical to Pearl's at Tennessee. Try doing some research.
 
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I wonder if it's Tubby or the program where he coaches that's been to exactly 11 NCAA tourneys in 116 years of basketball. His resume suggests it's the latter.

That's incredibly misleading because the NCAA tournament has not been around for 116 years...
 
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Pearl's teams remind of Green's teams, undisciplined, can't hit free throws, looks about the same. Pearl's a better PR guy but he has a lot of similarities to Green.
 
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That writer has an ax to grind, and he wouldn't have written this if Minny hadn't lost five out of six. Tubby has weaknesses as a coach and we've known that for years. But then again, so do all coaches. Tubby also has strengths as a coach, and that's why Minnesota basketball doesn't suck like it did before he got there.
 
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I don't bash them. I bash people saying that what Pearl has done is unprecedented, and no other coach could think about accomplishing what he has. The only thing Pearl has done that hasn't been done here before is the Elite Eight appearance.

Nobody on here says that.

But what I'm getting at is when we have these Pearl discussions, and someone brings up our lack of great program history, people brush that aside and say that anyone can win here. Well what says a lot about our program is that Pearl is the best coach in UT history, in terms of accomplishments, in a 5 year span with no final fours. Everyone who dislikes Pearl on this board never compares his accomplishments here in relation to the history of our program, yet you bring up Minnesota's history when talking about Tubby. That's all I'm saying.
 
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Nobody on here says that.

But what I'm getting at is when we have these Pearl discussions, and someone brings up our lack of great program history, people brush that aside and say that anyone can win here. Well what says a lot about our program is that Pearl is the best coach in UT history, in terms of accomplishments, in a 5 year span with no final fours. Everyone who dislikes Pearl on this board never compares his accomplishments here in relation to the history of our program, yet you bring up Minnesota's history when talking about Tubby. That's all I'm saying.

There are tons of people that say that. In fact, one of the posters in this thread is saying that. The fact is, I have been comparing Pearl to the history of the program by just mentioning a coach that everyone agrees sucked that accomplished very similar results to Pearl. That puts what he's done in a proper perspective. He's done a good job, no doubt, but it's not unprecedented.
 

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