Missing Malaysia Airlines Jet

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Septic said:
I think the next thing to surface will be the maintenance records of the aircraft, if they haven't already.
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I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned the passenger manifest and whether or not it's been run through the various national intelligence databases for known or suspected terrorists. It certainly would lend credibility to the "we don't think this is terrorism" line they are giving out.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned the passenger manifest and whether or not it's been run through the various national intelligence databases for known or suspected terrorists. It certainly would lend credibility to the "we don't think this is terrorism" line they are giving out.
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You've got to assume that was high on the list of things to do, I'd imagine there were no hits.
 
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hog88 said:
On a commercial flight, isn't one crew member (pilot or co-pilot) required to on oxygen at all times above 20-25,000 feet?
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No, not unless your a charter pilot for Justin Beiber and he's blazing it up with dad in the back.
 
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Grand Vol said:
I'm also surprised nobody has mentioned the passenger manifest and whether or not it's been run through the various national intelligence databases for known or suspected terrorists. It certainly would lend credibility to the "we don't think this is terrorism" line they are giving out.
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I'm fairly certain it has, I read where the the guys who used the stolen passports were considered non terrorist threats.
 
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CIA saying something other than mechanical function had to happen to force the UTurn. So did a retired airline pilot.
 
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rocktopper16 said:
CIA saying something other than mechanical function had to happen to force the UTurn. So did a retired airline pilot.
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Well that's obvious. But the pilot easily could have brought/tried to bring it around attempting to return to Kuala Lumpur.

If you lose your nav and commo on a moonlit night over the ocean, you're kinda lost if you haven't kept up on your location.

Just my thoughts
 
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Septic said:
But if I had to guess (given whats been reported) that there was a loss of power or there was a sudden depressurization of the cabin (or both) rendering the crew incapacitated or there was just a depressurization and the plane continued to fly (autopilot) and crashed somewhere where they're not looking.
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Another question: why would it be flying so low if it was on autopilot?
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Well that's obvious. But the pilot easily could have brought/tried to bring it around attempting to return to Kuala Lumpur.

If you lose your nav and commo on a moonlit night over the ocean, you're kinda lost if you haven't kept up on your location.

Just my thoughts
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I thought that too but your not even 100 miles to land and you try to do a UTurn with something major wrong? Even with a major mechanical failure they could have still called out the batteries would have kicked in and worked for upwards of 30 mins. Depending on the usage. The reality is no one truly knows. 2 weeks ago a co pilot hijacked his plane. There is a terrorist group in south china laying claim to what happened as well.
 
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Oh brother.

Malaysia Airlines MH370: Military denies missing plane detected on radar far from flight path - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The Malaysian air force has denied reports a passenger plane that vanished with 239 people on board was detected on radar far west of its flight path.
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Air force chief General Rodzali Daud was this morning quoted by Malaysian media as saying that radar had last detected the plane over the Strait of Malacca off western Malaysia.

That location would have indicated the flight had banked far to the west of its intended flight path over the South China Sea.

But Mr Rodzali says he "did not make any such statements," and that newspaper Berita Harian published "what is clearly an inaccurate and incorrect report".

However, he says authorities have not ruled out the possibility the airliner inexplicably changed course before losing contact.

"The [air force] has not ruled out the possibility of an air turn-back on a reciprocal heading before the aircraft vanished from the radar," he said.

"This resulted in the search and rescue operations being widened to the vicinity of the waters [off the west coast of Malaysia]."
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Velo Vol said:
Another question: why would it be flying so low if it was on autopilot?
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It wouldn't until in ran out of fuel. If there were a power failure and it was manually turned around, without avionics it would be more difficult but not at all impossible to fly for a while.

None of this makes sense.
 
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Septic said:
It wouldn't until in ran out of fuel. If there were a power failure and it was manually turned around, without avionics it would be more difficult but not at all impossible to fly for a while.

None of this makes sense.
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Seems like it would take a combination of totally unrelated scenarios to begin putting things together. Its a horrible tragedy, but I'm fascinated at this point.
 
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Toujours Pret said:
Seems like it would take a combination of totally unrelated scenarios to begin putting things together. Its a horrible tragedy, but I'm fascinated at this point.
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Good point, the airliner was reported to have ACARS, but I haven't heard anyone talk about what, if anything was recieved by MAL flight engineers.
 
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Septic said:
Seems like the only thing consistent here is the amount of bogus reporting.

I can't even imagine being a friend or family member of the missing.

These people deserve closure.
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Yep, time to put significant pressure on the Malaysian government to stop the nonsense and get their story straight.
 
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therealUT said:
Why do the two Iranians have the same exact legs?
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I hadn't even picked up on that until now. One picture looked superimposed over the other.

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Septic said:
Good point, the airliner was reported to have ACARS, but I haven't heard anyone talk about what, if anything was recieved by MAL flight engineers.
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So that means the ACARS lost all power/stopped transmitting before it determined anything was wrong?
 
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Grand Vol said:
I hadn't even picked up on that until now. One picture looked superimposed over the other.

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I hadn't picked up on that either. Someone brought it to my attention over dinner. If these are the pictures the Malaysian Airport and Government are releasing, then something fishy might be going on.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Just as the Malaysian air force radar denial is being circulated, I see another news media tweet that they are expanding the search into the Andaman Sea.

Go figure.
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At this point, I'd be ignoring the Malaysian government and searching all possible areas.
 
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therealUT said:
I hadn't picked up on that either. Someone brought it to my attention over dinner. If these are the pictures the Malaysian Airport and Government are releasing, then something fishy might be going on.
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Someone needs a Photoshop lesson lol
 
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therealUT said:
I hadn't picked up on that either. Someone brought it to my attention over dinner. If these are the pictures the Malaysian Airport and Government are releasing, then something fishy might be going on.
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I think the one on the left just has the other guys picture being held over it. Clearly the legs are the same, my guess is that the person holding the photos had multiple pictures and it just happen to look like that.
 
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Septic said:
I think the one on the left just has the other guys picture being held over it. Clearly the legs are the same, my guess is that the person holding the photos had multiple pictures and it just happen to look like that.
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Only one sheet of paper in the right hand (our left).
 
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