Missouri's SEC campaign

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I think he meant all teams being divided solely by region

(i.e. divisions must be East and West, and as per the names, all member teams should be cardinally divided as such and such alone)
 
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What happened to the big announcement? Missouri basically said the same thing today that it said in the big announcement a couple weeks ago.
 
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Velo Vol said:
What happened to the big announcement? Missouri basically said the same thing today that it said in the big announcement a couple weeks ago.
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not exactly

they said last time that Deaton had the right to explore conference options (i.e. talk to other conferences, entertain meetings and offers, etc.)


This time he's been granted actual authority to make such a (or any) move for the school regarding conference (rather than just entertain discussions about it)



...the changing of conferences is a very long and arduous process; these were about the same steps that A&M took, along an almost exact same timeline
 
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milohimself said:
A pox on whoever said Mizzou wouldn't be a good fit. How awesome would it be to see an annual Mizzou-Arkansas game at Arrowhead?
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I lived with a girl in Columbia during a year I took off college. I had a great time, but that's an amazingly pretentious student population considering that they're a bunch of farm kids who live in the dust bowl, and they believe every single stereotype about the redneck hillbilly south there is. Combine all that with alcohol and football and I expect them to be one of the most hated fanbases in the conference in pretty short order.
 
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Jesus. Retarded posts are retarded. Hang in there re re. You have no idea about Mo fans.
 
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Velo Vol said:
wut
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Basically lay out divisions with no regard to geography so competitive balance and rivalries can be maintained, like they do with the ACC and Big Ten.

Vercingetorix said:
I lived with a girl in Columbia during a year I took off college. I had a great time, but that's an amazingly pretentious student population considering that they're a bunch of farm kids who live in the dust bowl, and they believe every single stereotype about the redneck hillbilly south there is. Combine all that with alcohol and football and I expect them to be one of the most hated fanbases in the conference in pretty short order.
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Sounds good.

volger said:
Jesus. Retarded posts are retarded. Hang in there re re. You have no idea about Mo fans.
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... Immediate results were immediate.
 
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Again, I had an unreasonably good time during my year there. (Probably because I was doing nothing but working and drinking while everybody I knew was having to deal with school.) But the kids at Mizzou think that they go to the Harvard of the midwest. They think that southerners are shoeless inbred idiots. And they drink like champions. I just can't see this working out well when they start driving to places like Tuscaloosa and Knoxville and Athens and Baton Rouge for football games.
 
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Dont worry vercingetorix. Soon, they'll learn that they can't be disrespectful. They're severely outnumbered.
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Nah, it would be disappointing if they decided not to be disrespectful. I just think it's going to be oil and water. Which should be fun.

Assuming, of course, that there's enough of a football fanbase now to be obnoxious and annoying and fun. When I lived up there nobody gave a crap about football. As in, I worked in a restaurant right near campus and we got no bump at all on gamedays. We got a bigger crowd for basketball games. They're better now, so obviously there's a bigger fanbase, but I wonder how well they'll travel once they get into the SEC grind and the novelty wears off.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Again, I had an unreasonably good time during my year there. (Probably because I was doing nothing but working and drinking while everybody I knew was having to deal with school.) But the kids at Mizzou think that they go to the Harvard of the midwest. They think that southerners are shoeless inbred idiots. And they drink like champions. I just can't see this working out well when they start driving to places like Tuscaloosa and Knoxville and Athens and Baton Rouge for football games.
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They sound an awful lot like Vanderbilt fans.
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Vercingetorix said:
I lived with a girl in Columbia during a year I took off college. I had a great time, but that's an amazingly pretentious student population considering that they're a bunch of farm kids who live in the dust bowl, and they believe every single stereotype about the redneck hillbilly south there is. Combine all that with alcohol and football and I expect them to be one of the most hated fanbases in the conference in pretty short order.
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and you found that offensive :no:... man I embrace it :naughty:
 
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Shot0fClarity said:
:eek:lol::lolabove:

Geography - Missouri borders 3 current SEC states, including Tennessee.
Athletically - They've had a top 10 football team more recently than us, and their basketball program is better.
Academics - Really? They would only be the 3rd AAU member in the league. They have a great academic reputation.

Throw in the fact that they add 2 huge markets, a 70k+ seat stadium, and the ability to become a bigger program in the future - we're getting another good program.
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Your argument is purely from a one-sided prospective. :crazy: Perhaps you should look at the argument objectively.

1) Geographically- The "bordering states" argument is absurd. Just because you touch three states in the SEC doesn't mean you are a good fit for the SEC. Touching another state does not account for the traveling time for teams in the conference or the cultural aspects. If this is the best you've got for a geographic argument then it is extremely weak, mostly because North Carolina borders three states and it makes way more sense to go there and Virginia only borders two states and, again, it would be a better place to find a 14th SEC team.
It doesn't make sense for a SOUTHEASTERN Conference to be expanding NORTHWEST. From a personal point of view I think that the SEC shouldn't fall west of the Mississippi River or North of the Mason-Dixon Line, with maybe LSU as an exception. That is the true Southeast region. Most importantly, adding Missouri to the Eastern Division is just ridiculous when they would be one of the most western schools in the conference. If we're gonna add Missouri we might as well change the conference name.

2) Athletics- There just not a good fit. They don't have the football culture or program tradition that most SEC schools do. If Missouri comes to the SEC they'll be nothing more than another Mississippi State or Mississippi caliber team at best. At worst, there the sister's of the poor's version of Vanderbilt. Maybe they'll do something for basketball and wrastlin' (disclaimer: I don't know anytihng about NCAA wrestling programs). Missouri just won't compete, period.

3) Academics- My view on academics is that the SEC is not stellar in academics as it is and I don't think adding Missouri's academic program would help much, as opposed to adding a Virginia, Georgia Tech, Duke, North Carolina. They may be better than most academic programs in the SEC but it's not like the bar is set that high. But if you want that argument then fine, i'll cede it to you.

If we're gonna add a 14th team then we should take a step back assess the schools that could potentially be added and make the best decision for the conference. I 100% guarantee you if they did that, then Missouri WOULD NOT be the team that gets the invite. There are a multitude of teams that I think would fair better. I would even put Louisville, Virginia, and North Carolina ahead of Missouri (not that those schools would come, just saying).
 
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milohimself said:
^ Would you like to kick Arkansas out of the conference?
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From a Southeastern perspective, yes. I just think that the further west and north that we move the less the title "Southeastern" has any relevant meaning. As the conference stands this year, I was very happy with just a 12 team conference. If we're going to add Missouri then we might as well change the name of the conference because it will lose its meaning (like the Big East would if it added Boise State).
I was not stocked about adding Tx A&M because it continues to dilute the "SEC" geography, but they do have a football culture and program tradition that compliments the rest of the SEC so i moved on. I thought that the 14th team needed to come from the east coast though in order to offset the geographic debacle. I was hoping for Georgia Tech to come back to the SEC or maybe grabbing Virginia Tech or Clemson.
 
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