Missouri's SEC campaign

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golfballs03 said:
I spoke briefly to an executive producer at ESPN this weekend. He is almost assured the sec will eventually go to 16. And super conferences may evolve to include even more teams, and it will kill the bcs.
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...not sure how exactly it would do so
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golfballs03 said:
I spoke briefly to an executive producer at ESPN this weekend. He is almost assured the sec will eventually go to 16. And super conferences may evolve to include even more teams, and it will kill the bcs.
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instead of killing the bcs, it will more than likely make the bcs stronger. it is almost certain that at least four 16-team super conferences will happen in football & probably basketball, too. there will be 4 teams in each of the 4 divisions within each conference. there is a move afoot to limit it to only 64 teams nationwide, which realistically is the limit to the number of schools that have the wherewithall to compete with all the money that will be required. athletes will be paid a stipend. each school will get millions from tv.

if they are successful in limiting it to 64 teams, those 64 will pull out of the ncaa & form another governing body that will be headed by the bcs structure. each of the 16-team leagues will have a champion of each of the 4-team divisions. those divisional champions will play in a 4-team playoff for the conference championship, with semifinal games that will be seeded 1 thru 4 based upon bcs rankings, & then the 4 conference champions would also similarly play in a 4-team playoff for the national championship. it will make for very exciting football all thru the year for all 64 teams involved.

the rest of the schools will still remain in the ncaa. the bowl system will still survive with some bowls participating in the bcs playoffs & others with the remaining ncaa teams, which will enhance some bowl games. the cotton bowl & gator bowl are wanting to get into the bcs mix & will participate in the conference & national playoffs, along with the rose, orange, sugar, & fiesta, give 6 major bowls participation nationally on a rotating basis. the conference playoffs will be huge moneymakers, adding 2 more games at the end of the regular season. domed stadiums that aren't a part of the major bowl system will be used.
 
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golfballs03 said:
I spoke briefly to an executive producer at ESPN this weekend. He is almost assured the sec will eventually go to 16. And super conferences may evolve to include even more teams, and it will kill the bcs.
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#157
Yes our forum is Tigerboard.com and we wouldnt get a real vote from the SEC until after we withdraw from the conference. Hopefully we will be joining yall soon.
 
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....just went to a wvu board

....there are no words to express the made-up world they must be living in
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Velo Vol said:
I don't recall this being specifically announced, but apparently Missouri will not be coming aboard for next season.

Big 12 commish: league will be 10 teams in 2012 - CBSSports.com
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is this really news though?

Just looks like no announcement (and more and more like ESPN's been throwing around Titles and stories to try to save their LHN investment...)

reads just like a "hey, no commitment or decision yet....just rules say can't leave before 2013"
 
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TrueOrange said:
is this really news though?
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Within the last couple days I was reading something discussing the fee Missouri would have to pay if it left the Big 12 now versus waiting another year or more, so the idea has been out there that they could have made an immediate move, like Texas A&M.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Within the last couple days I was reading something discussing the fee Missouri would have to pay if it left the Big 12 now versus waiting another year or more, so the idea has been out there that they could have made an immediate move, like Texas A&M.
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It's like 25 mil or so if they chose to just up and bolt this year versus less if they if given a year or so notice right?
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TrueOrange said:
It's like 25 mil or so if they chose to just up and bolt this year versus less if they if given a year or so notice right?
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I just glanced at it (not paying attention to the details), but that sounds in the ball park of what I remember. It made reference to Nebraska/Colorado paying less.
 
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As expected, Kansas City is lobbying hard to try to keep Missouri in the big 12 (mainly citing the money the city receives from the big 12 basketball tournament...not sure how strong that one really is since, again, the Big 12 has spent the last decade moving everything from KC down to Dallas; not sure it's a certainty they don't choose to do so with the basketball tournament in a few years either)

KC mayor urges MU to stay in Big 12 - KansasCity.com




One of the heads of the Mizzou leaving campaign is posting that they need to start back up their emailing again (saying enough of the Kansas(/KSU/big 12 fans) & WVU fans are sending enough emails in an attempt to urge them to stay)



no more news really from that front; SEC might be waiting for Alabama or Auburn to finally give on one of their realignments ideas
 
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Its pretty sad that K.C. is going to begging Mizzou to stay, but I doubt it will really matter. They didnt put up much of a fight when they let Texas take the Big XII HQ down to Dallas, and they didnt put up much of a fight when they took the championship game away also. I cant wait until we leave.
 
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Which is why I don't get that... There won't be anything left for St. Louis and K.C., they might as well jump ship.
 
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Its not going to work. They are probably going to lose the Tournament anyways. We will still play kU in the Sprint Center unless they try to discontinue the rivalry and we will not continue to drag the dead weight schools in the area along.
 
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Alabama would support adding Missouri if those Tigers, not Auburn, play in the East | al.com

BIRMINGHAM, Alabama -- Nothing's simple about the SEC possibly adding Missouri. As inevitable as Texas A&M to the SEC felt, Missouri to the SEC doesn't feel that way, although the wedding could still very well happen if a proposal happens.

Missouri remains favored by the majority of SEC presidents and chancellors as the 14th member, four sources familiar with their discussions told The Birmingham News this week. One major sticking point is which division Missouri would play football in, according to the sources.

Alabama, which resides in the SEC minority of wanting No. 14 from the East Coast, would support Missouri if it joined the SEC East, not the West, multiple sources said. According to the sources, Alabama has two objectives: Keep its annual cross-division rivalry game against Tennessee, and not watch Auburn move to the East and possibly grow its recruiting presence in talent-rich Florida and Georgia.

Auburn is interested in moving to the East but if staying in the West and Missouri joining the East were necessary for expansion, Auburn likely would not stand in the way, according to a source.

Memo to Missouri: Get used to this type of pettiness in the SEC, where even the tiniest of potential football recruiting advantages becomes dissected.

As strange as Missouri in the East sounds, conferences usually fail in geography class. Louisiana Tech currently plays in a league with Hawaii. Vanderbilt is in the East and Auburn is in the West in the SEC. The Mountain West and Conference USA announced a 22-team merged football league spanning 16 states and five time zones. The Big East might invite Boise State, for crying out loud.

Missouri in the East would allow Alabama to continue playing Tennessee every year. It would also keep the league's six traditional football powers divided equally (Alabama, Auburn and LSU in the West; Florida, Georgia and Tennessee in the East).

However, there is a fairly significant gap in football pedigree between divisions depending on whether Missouri or Auburn plays in the East, assuming Texas A&M goes to the West.

Texas A&M's all-time winning percentage would rank seventh in the SEC, well behind the traditional powers and slightly ahead of Arkansas. Missouri would rank 10th, ahead of only Kentucky, South Carolina, Vanderbilt and Mississippi State.

If Missouri plays in the East, the West would have six of the SEC's top nine winning-percentage leaders. The West would be decidedly better than the East in all-time winning percentage (.605 to .573), bowl winning percentage (.530 to .500) and SEC titles (46 to 35).

That disparity gets reduced with Auburn in the East. The West's advantage in all-time winning percentage would be lower (.592 to .585), and the East would have the edge in bowl winning percentage (.529 to .506) and SEC titles (42 to 39).

Some SEC presidents have concerns about the cost of Missouri's Big 12 exit fees and potential litigation, sources said, but the legal worries have been tempered since the Big 12 righted itself.

There's also the issue of ego, which can't be overlooked. Last week, The Associated Press quoted an anonymous Missouri official as saying the school preferred the Big Ten but now hopes to join the SEC because "that's what's left."

At least one SEC president who's skeptical of Missouri brought up the story during the SEC presidents' conference call this week, sources said, and the presidents were quickly told that's a minority view by Missouri officials.

Somewhat lost in the public discussion about expansion is travel for athletes, who are supposedly students first. Expansion doesn't affect football players on chartered weekend flights, but it better be a consideration for non-revenue sports given the remoteness of so many SEC campuses. Trips to Texas A&M and Missouri mean either more travel time or more travel costs.

Only one SEC school is within 500 miles of Texas A&M and just four are within 500 miles of Missouri. The SEC should place a percentage of any new TV money into a fund to assist non-revenue sports cover travel costs and take that decision -- should we buy out our football coach or charter our volleyball team on a long trip? -- out of schools' hands.

Missouri remains the SEC's focus. Where to unleash what would be the SEC's third set of Tigers -- that's one of the biggest questions.
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May well be the last hurdle (unless, like, USCe gets pissy)


There is apparently a missouri board of curators meeting scheduled for the week's end (though need to find some better confirmation


Also like this (if true) from the bama board:

Also, all the B12 logos at the stadium were mysteriously gone.
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It is true. I saw pictures of their field and where the Big 12 logos used to be was vacant. It is on tigerboard for anyone wanting a link. They are saying also that their BOC is meeting Thursday to make a decision.
 
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AllVolinGA said:
It is true. I saw pictures of their field and where the Big 12 logos used to be was vacant. It is on tigerboard for anyone wanting a link. They are saying also that their BOC is meeting Thursday to make a decision.
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Post that link please

(I wonder if it was the school's doing or just some extremely masterful vandalism/pranks)
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