MIT Physicist Has Idea About Why We Exist

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Thrasher865 said:
You're a fool if your expectation is that we shine a flashlight on some water and get a christmas tree.

The idea is that we could observe some molecular restructuring as a result into a more organized state. Something that could eventually become RNA and lead to life.

If this occurred spontaneously, it would completely shoot down the "second law of thermodynamics" argument that never held water to begin with.
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LOL OK. Show me
 
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If this occurs, and occurs at timescale that we could do an experiment with, wouldn't we have already seen it? Wouldn't a sealed sterile container with organic material in it spontaneously produce RNA or whatever?

I feel like that sort of thing would have been noticed, what with us sterilizing instruments, containers, products, rooms, etc that are exposed to light.
 
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Mtntrout said:
If this occurs, and occurs at timescale that we could do an experiment with, wouldn't we have already seen it? Wouldn't a sealed sterile container with organic material in it spontaneously produce RNA or whatever?

I feel like that sort of thing would have been noticed, what with us sterilizing instruments, containers, products, rooms, etc that are exposed to light.
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First of all, I doubt they expect to witness the spontaneous creation of anything as complex as RNA. Secondly, how in the world would you think we would observe something like that happening?

The conditions aren't as simple as you make it seem. Also, how are we going to tell if something like that did occur? Do you test every glass of water you accidentally leave out for a few months for the synthesis of organic molecules before you pour it out? Or are you capable of spotting this with your naked eye? That would be remarkable.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
First of all, I doubt they expect to witness the spontaneous creation of anything as complex as RNA. Secondly, how in the world would you think we would observe something like that happening?

The conditions aren't as simple as you make it seem. Also, how are we going to tell if something like that did occur? Do you test every glass of water you accidentally leave out for a few months for the synthesis of organic molecules before you pour it out? Or are you capable of spotting this with your naked eye? That would be remarkable.
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So the article is just bs?
 
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VolsSportsFan said:
Science is hard.
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Ugh, yeah... This science is pretty hard. There is a tremendous ammount we don't know.

I think the odds are extremely high that this "formula" does not in itself explain how life came to be created.

Many of his brightest peers are skeptical. Certainly they aren't anti-science
 
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golfballs said:
I think the odds are extremely high that this "formula" does not in itself explain how life came to be created.
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I don't think it intends to. If something as simple as light can rearrange matter into more complex, lower entropy structures, it's a start.

Scientific theories don't happen all at once like the posters in this thread would like.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
And only someone as thick-skulled as CC would read that as an outline for future experiments.

"long enough" being several million or hundreds of millions of years in this context.
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Which means it should be a constant phenomenon at this point.
 
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govols/cc said:
Which means it should be a constant phenomenon at this point.
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Good luck finding any uninhabited bodies of water that have been uncontaminated for millions of years and being able to verify this when you find microorganisms in it. I mean, how are you going to tell the difference between newly spawned microorganisms and those that are just naturally inhabiting?

I want to hear what it means to you to "observe this phenomenon."

Do you think before you type, or are you just trolling?
 
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Thrasher865 said:
Good luck finding any uninhabited bodies of water that have been uncontaminated for millions of years and being able to verify this when you find microorganisms in it. I mean, how are you going to tell the difference between newly spawned microorganisms and those that are just naturally inhabiting?

I want to hear what it means to you to "observe this phenomenon."

Do you think before you type, or are you just trolling?
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Why does it have to be microorganisms? Are you referring to yourself?
 
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