Mitt - Can he win against Obama?

Does Mitt beat Obama in the general election?

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volinbham said:
Totally agree on the last part and we are all going to be losers for it.
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Then you decry I assume the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Breitbart, Fox and Friends, Doocey, Kudlow, Boortz, Santelli, Savage, and Drudge who have been negatively campaigning against Obama for five years, right ?
 
#53
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lawgator1 said:
It is 100 percent true.
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There is plenty of evidence that he simply prefers monied access for somethings and not for others.

He doesn't believe what he's selling - his actions demonstrate that clearly.

He's saying it because he thinks its a winning strategy but he doesn't want to remove the access - he wants to limit it to the right "causes".

Completely cynical
 
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lawgator1 said:
Then you decry I assume the likes of Limbaugh, Hannity, Coulter, Breitbart, Fox and Friends, Doocey, Kudlow, Boortz, Santelli, Savage, and Drudge who have been negatively campaigning against Obama for five years, right ?
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Yep and Shultz, Maddow, Maher, Moore, Stewart, etc etc that did for 8 years of Bush and for the last 3+ years as well.

It's all BS.

I would exclude Kudlow from your list above though. I don't see him as a flame thrower. He has a viewpoint that he presents calmly and without personal attack or motive attribution. Nothing wrong with that. There are lefties that do the same.

The irony is that Obama won on a promise of being a uniter, being post-partisan and hope. He is and will campaign through division, us v them, strawmen, cynical views and flat out negativity. Romney will counter and we'll all suffer.
 
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volinbham said:
There is plenty of evidence that he simply prefers monied access for somethings and not for others.

He doesn't believe what he's selling - his actions demonstrate that clearly.

He's saying it because he thinks its a winning strategy but he doesn't want to remove the access - he wants to limit it to the right "causes".

Completely cynical
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Oh, okay. I thought you meant it is incorrect to say that the tax code has been manipulated by the wealthy to benefit the wealthy. Clearly, it has.

I agree that Dems do the same thing. They have their business interests, too. And they gave also played ball, as it were, in the manipulation of the system by the wealthy.

Romney's problem is that he can so personally be associated with what most people think is the problem-- money and politics. Personally - that's going to be his main problem.
 
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I also don't like lumping in Stewart with the rest of them. He goes after Obama as well. I admit I turn off the channel some times when he goes too left, but to lump him in with the rest who are partisan 24/7 is not fair. He gets a bad rap from the right. *Not to derail about a subjective opinion*
 
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#57
Stewart is pretty fair, especially for a comedian. Still don't care for him much.
 
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rjd970 said:
I got a feeling when it is all said a done Romney beats Obama with the independent voters and wins the general election. I think Romney is doing just enough now to not lose the nomination, and will pull out all the punches when the general election takes hold.
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Romney has been outspending Santorum, Paul, and Gingrich almost 6 to 1. He is hardly doing just enough to not lose the nomination.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Romney's problem is that he can so personally be associated with what most people think is the problem-- money and politics. Personally - that's going to be his main problem.
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I think that argument will appeal to Obama's base, and there's nothing wrong with that. But it's not going to appeal to the middle, because Obama has gotten in with all the standard left-leaning lobbies out there. He can decry money in politics and point to Romney's wealth, but it won't matter to the bulk of the country that Romney is personally wealthier than Obama when Obama is eyeballs deep in wealthy donors. And those donors/lobbies have clearly impacted the decisions Obama has made.

Romney could easily trot out the massive amounts of donations that Obama has received from Wall Steet, and Obama's argument is going to ring very hollow.
 
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#60
Stewart views himself more importantly than you guys are saying. The only time he goes after Obama is when he doesn't think he's being liberal enough. Read some of his interviews about how his show is "needed".

He falls back on the comedian excuse when he is criticized.

As to the op's question. Mitt can win. Don't know if he will. Lot can change between now and November. $4 gas will be a factor.
 
#61
#61
I don't know if Romney can win.....but he won't.

I've already conceded that Obama will be re-elected. Too many people that are too stubborn to believe what's been obvious the past 3 years.

Not even including the fact that Obama can't lose with the media. No matter what he says or does he gets a free pass.
 
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volinbham said:
I would exclude Kudlow from your list above though. I don't see him as a flame thrower. He has a viewpoint that he presents calmly ....
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Hahahahahahahahahaha !!! He practically yells sometimes. Of course, that is often just so that he can be heard over Santelli's tripe.
 
#63
#63
This guy will say anything depending on what crowd he is speaking to. Add that to his extremely moderate record in Mass. and his religion, which is an issue with conservatives, and I have serious doubts he will win.

But, who knows? Obama certainly doesn't have anything to stand on outside of foreign policy and that ain't great, either.
 
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