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[SSVol]

Someone remind me when ESD is? I was under the impression that we had a little more time, but it sounds like it's soon.

 

[buckfama]

Some people on here are soft af and probably shouldn't follow recruiting.

 

[swchandler1988]

It’s not absurd to look at the recruiting situation without orange glasses on, Franklin has visited Miami several times in the month of June, and they are rumored to be bringing the house in terms of $ for him. Ross has been considered a toss up between us and UF for a while now, and all of his twitter interactions are with UF fans, maybe it is something to take with a grain of salt, but it just makes me think he is leaning towards UF

This is a perfect example of stating something as fact that just isn’t. Skewing information so that others believe what you’re saying. It’s just entirely false. Franklin has visited Miami TWICE, not several times, in June. One for a camp and one for an OV. So one more time than he’s visited UT. And per anyone who works in the industry, including Wiltfong who hates us, says we’re in the drivers seat.

Jordan Ross. Does a Florida mod saying today that he thinks UT leads, mean anything at all to you? You’re literally changing everything positive to for us in these recruiting battles and lying about it so it makes us look like we’re losing. Also, if you think that we aren’t going to have to compete to sign 5 star players then you’re out of your mind

 

[MarcoVol]

It’s not absurd to look at the recruiting situation without orange glasses on, Franklin has visited Miami several times in the month of June, and they are rumored to be bringing the house in terms of $ for him. Ross has been considered a toss up between us and UF for a while now, and all of his twitter interactions are with UF fans, maybe it is something to take with a grain of salt, but it just makes me think he is leaning towards UF

Florida mod says we lead.

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

I agree he’s a very good game day coach and offensive mind but a elite recruiter? I’m not sure. But then again Steve Spurrier was never a great recruiter he didn’t really like to recruit.

Doesn't matter if it is the head coach or an assistant that brought (brings) in the players. The talent must be present for SEC & National Titles.. nobody is out-coaching the best teams.

 

[Nooga]

Some people on here are soft af and probably shouldn't follow recruiting.

Recruiting is fluid…

 

[MarcoVol]

Doesn't matter if it is the head coach or an assistant that brought (brings) in the players. The talent must be present for SEC & National Titles.. nobody is out-coaching the best teams.

Outside of UGA, who do you think the Vols couldn’t beat last season?

And while I understand that means not winning the SEC or a national title, the program was gutted when Heup took over. Last year (a year where we could’ve beaten damn near anyone - genuinely interested to hear everyone’s thoughts on what other teams we could not beat - maybe OSU? Idk) happened in Y2 of what was considered a complete rebuild.

How people (not saying you) don’t trust the dude yet is baffling.

 

[swchandler1988]

Doesn't matter if it is the head coach or an assistant that brought (brings) in the players. The talent must be present for SEC & National Titles.. nobody is out-coaching the best teams.

Except for Heupel, last year, when he beat 2020 national champs Alabama, 2019 national champs LSU and 2018 national champs Clemson? All three of those schools also averaged top 5 recruiting classes leading up the last season.

Edit: the coaches of those teams he beat are led by 3 of the top 5 active winningest head coaches. Saban Dabo and Kelly, that way you don’t have to google it yourself

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

I don't have to Google anything. We taking credit for beating Clemson in the orange bowl like it was Trevor or Watson out there. Alabama was and is a glorious victory.


Yet we are still not close to Georgia, on field, or in recruiting. I don't believe we will beat them by scheme. At this point you can call it what you want.

Florida was great when they won under Spurrier. So were the teams that you mistakenly thought I needed to Google.

Tennessee wil win again (winning being SEC or National Titles) when we have great talent again (the same reason we won back in 98-99).

 

[Ned Ray McWorkher]

Outside of UGA, who do you think the Vols couldn’t beat last season?

And while I understand that means not winning the SEC or a national title, the program was gutted when Heup took over. Last year (a year where we could’ve beaten damn near anyone - genuinely interested to hear everyone’s thoughts on what other teams we could not beat - maybe OSU? Idk) happened in Y2 of what was considered a complete rebuild.

How people (not saying you) don’t trust the dude yet is baffling.

Trust in CJH is certainly there.


I thought we were talking about what it takes to win this league, which is to defeat UA & now UGA too. Both in recruiting and on the field.

 

[swchandler1988]

Trust in CJH is certainly there.


I thought we were talking about what it takes to win this league, which is to defeat UA & now UGA too. Both in recruiting and on the field.

“nobody is out-coaching the best teams.”

You’re trying to misdirect because you’re flat wrong. We were talking about what it takes to win, you’re right. And clearly we have what it takes to win. Heupel has out-coached the most recent best teams. I’m so sorry he hasn’t beaten the minor league NFL team which is UGA the last two years. You’re being negative for absolutely no reason.

Hence your screen name

 

[MarcoVol]

Trust in CJH is certainly there.


I thought we were talking about what it takes to win this league, which is to defeat UA & now UGA too. Both in recruiting and on the field.

Well that’s not entirely accurate, is it? Haven’t come close to sniffing Bama in recruiting rankings and beat them last year. And will beat them again before without surpassing them in recruiting rankings

 

[VolNash17]

You can certainly upset a few people during the season with lesser talent. Just ask Mark Dantonio. Although throughout an entire season from start through the national championship, everyone knows the elite talent that’s required to win it. Heupel knows it too. He isn’t an idiot and doesn’t care about landing the top flight recruits. He’s been around way too long to not understand that in 2023. Give it 3 seasons and let him try to get some elite classes in here then we’ll really see what Tennessee can do. Until then we’ll have to keep building depth and re establish Tennessee into a consistent 9-10 win program with occasional upsets here and there

 

[OrangeVolMan]

I don't have to Google anything. We taking credit for beating Clemson in the orange bowl like it was Trevor or Watson out there. Alabama was and is a glorious victory.


Yet we are still not close to Georgia, on field, or in recruiting. I don't believe we will beat them by scheme. At this point you can call it what you want.

Florida was great when they won under Spurrier. So were the teams that you mistakenly thought I needed to Google.

Tennessee wil win again (winning being SEC or National Titles) when we have great talent again (the same reason we won back in 98-99).

We beat Alabama, LSU and Clemson who all had higher ranked recruiting classes than Tennessee over the last several years. We just need to be in the neighborhood in recruiting. Recruiting is not an exact science.

 

[Vol423]

Trust in CJH is certainly there.


I thought we were talking about what it takes to win this league, which is to defeat UA & now UGA too. Both in recruiting and on the field.

Honestly, I don't think we need to beat Alabama or Georgia in recruiting to beat them on the field. We just need our roster's overall talent to be just a little closer to theirs. Heupel is that good as a game day coach. This is already an established fact for Bama. We'll eventually get Georgia too. We just need to keep improving the roster.

 

[Woodlawn VOL]

Honestly, I don't think we need to beat Alabama or Georgia in recruiting to beat them on the field. We just need our roster's overall talent to be just a little closer to theirs. Heupel is that good as a game day coach. This is already an established fact for Bama. We'll eventually get Georgia too. We just need to keep improving the roster.

But we will continue to gain in recruiting as we keep winning! This class right here is going to be a solid top 10 possibly knocking at top 5’s door when all is said and done. 6th-8th range looks very possible. GBO!

 

[DawgInterloper]

Honestly, I don't think we need to beat Alabama or Georgia in recruiting to beat them on the field. We just need our roster's overall talent to be just a little closer to theirs. Heupel is that good as a game day coach. This is already an established fact for Bama. We'll eventually get Georgia too. We just need to keep improving the roster.

No doubt that you'll beat Georgia, probably soon. There will plenty of upheaval with the new SEC lineup and the 12 team playoff. The teams that can survive all of these challenging matchups and still execute at the end of a 15 or 16 game season will obviously need talent and good coaching, but also true depth at every position and good dose of injury luck.

 

[KINGSVOL]

We beat Alabama, LSU and Clemson who all had higher ranked recruiting classes than Tennessee over the last several years. We just need to be in the neighborhood in recruiting. Recruiting is not an exact science.

And we're gonna beat Bama, UGA, and AtM this year, all of which have a higher level of talent.

Should I also mention We'll beat LSU for the SEC title, beat USC in the first round and beat Michigan for the BIG ORANGE TITLE!! That'll make 6 top 6 teams that have better players than us. Hype say VOLS BY FIDDY!

 

[VOLfrombama]

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

Honestly, I don't think we need to beat Alabama or Georgia in recruiting to beat them on the field. We just need our roster's overall talent to be just a little closer to theirs. Heupel is that good as a game day coach. This is already an established fact for Bama. We'll eventually get Georgia too. We just need to keep improving the roster.

Yep!

We can beat them this year and maintain that success with a top 10 roster and great QB play.

With this offense and a great QB you can beat anybody.

We can win the title this year depending on how good Milton is. (Probably need some help from the defense at least enough help where we can stop a nose bleed)

 

[norrislakevol]

Some great points just made by several. Would it be great to sign top 5 classes every year right now? Sure! Do we have to have that to win a lot of games right now? No. This staff with the scheme and development can win, and win big. They won big last year with lesser on paper talent then we have on the roster this year. We will be even more talented next year.

This was a true rebuild, with JH having to start with a lot of upheaval. To be where we are right now, and to have done what we did last year is nothing short of miraculous. Its all the proof you need that this staff knows EXACTLY what they are doing. Let's just try to enjoy being relevant again, and enjoy the almost assured future success of our beloved football team.

 

[Vol in Buckeye Land]

“nobody is out-coaching the best teams.”

You’re trying to misdirect because you’re flat wrong. We were talking about what it takes to win, you’re right. And clearly we have what it takes to win. Heupel has out-coached the most recent best teams. I’m so sorry he hasn’t beaten the minor league NFL team which is UGA the last two years. You’re being negative for absolutely no reason.

Hence your screen name

I also don’t understand why people like to act like there’s no possible universe in which we could have beaten Georgia last year. They played one of the better games of their season and we played our worst on offense. Offensive line was discombobulated and Hendon and the receivers didn’t have a stellar day either. Part of that is attributable, obviously, to how good Carter, Ringo, et al were, but part of it is more variable: the crowd noise causing penalties and communication issues, UGA seizing the momentum early on, etc. It isn’t axiomatic that Georgia was just so vastly superior we could never have beaten them, and yet that’s the narrative for the concern trolls.

 

[LittleVol]

I also don’t understand why people like to act like there’s no possible universe in which we could have beaten Georgia last year. They played one of the better games of their season and we played our worst on offense. Offensive line was discombobulated and Hendon and the receivers didn’t have a stellar day either. Part of that is attributable, obviously, to how good Carter, Ringo, et al were, but part of it is more variable: the crowd noise causing penalties and communication issues, UGA seizing the momentum early on, etc. It isn’t axiomatic that Georgia was just so vastly superior we never could never have beaten them, and yet that’s the narrative for the concern trolls.

And the field was wet. UGA and UT struggled with that the rest of the game

 

[#Vol4Life1991]

I also don’t understand why people like to act like there’s no possible universe in which we could have beaten Georgia last year. They played one of the better games of their season and we played our worst on offense. Offensive line was discombobulated and Hendon and the receivers didn’t have a stellar day either. Part of that is attributable, obviously, to how good Carter, Ringo, et al were, but part of it is more variable: the crowd noise causing penalties and communication issues, UGA seizing the momentum early on, etc. It isn’t axiomatic that Georgia was just so vastly superior we could never have beaten them, and yet that’s the narrative for the concern trolls.

If we lost to uga like tcu and oregon did, then I would be concerned. Idiot rece davis (I believe it was him) try to compare our lost to uga with oregon n uga.

We lost to them by 2 possessions in their house while it was raining for half the game. We have made huge improvements from 2 seasons ago when they spanked us at home.

 

[PlanetVolunteer]

And the field was wet. UGA and UT struggled with that the rest of the game

The weather conditions and the crowd muddied the game up to where it came down to us not being able to overcome them physically.

But those mutt fans insist that it was just Kirby's brilliant defensive schemes that out-witted our gimmicks

Even though they never explained what fancy things they were doing defensively that kept us from moving the ball lol