Morally Acceptable?

With reference to the question in the OP, is this morally acceptable?

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#51
#51
therealUT said:
Is killing a man who presents no direct threat (unarmed at the time), therefore operating as both judge and jury in passing a death sentence more or less morally acceptable than torturing and individual, yet leaving no long term physical damage?
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In my opinion, OBL deserved to die, but it didn't have to be such an easy way out (bullet to the head? Come on!). I would prefer to have brought him in alive.
 
#53
#53
hndog609 said:
I'll admit there's a certain attraction to the idea of taking him "secretly" alive and telling him if he doesn't talk to us there's some Russians or Israelis that'd love to take a crack at him.
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And then the real torture would begin. Waterboarding would be a warm up...
 
#54
#54
VolsNSkinsFan said:
I am against the death penalty for 99% of the cases.
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Not picking on you VNSF but on the argument.

In the death penalty situation there is a trial, a verdict, appeals and finally execution.

For O/UBL there were none of these - not even in absentia.
 
#55
#55
"Joe bag of donuts" who walks into a 7-11 and robs it and kills the clerk does not deserve to die. He deserves to sit in a jail cell 23.5 hours a day for the rest of his life
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#56
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VolsNSkinsFan said:
"Joe bag of donuts" who walks into a 7-11 and robs it and kills the clerk does not deserve to die. He deserves to sit in a jail cell 23.5 hours a day for the rest of his life
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considering very few murderors row inmates chose death rather than appeal i'm going to go out on a limb and assume they at least think death isn't superior to jail.
 
#57
#57
volinbham said:
Not picking on you VNSF but on the argument.

In the death penalty situation there is a trial, a verdict, appeals and finally execution.

For O/UBL there were none of these - not even in absentia.
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He had a chance to give himself up and have all of the above.

He chose to remain a fugitive, and when the door got kicked in, he got put down.

He chose his path. Not unlike any variety of situations involving police action on high risk warrant servings, which also don't make it to trial in some situations.
 
#58
#58
VolsNSkinsFan said:
"Joe bag of donuts" who walks into a 7-11 and robs it and kills the clerk does not deserve to die. He deserves to sit in a jail cell 23.5 hours a day for the rest of his life
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What about a serial killer that preys on young college girls?
 
#59
#59
fl0at said:
He had a chance to give himself up and have all of the above.

He chose to remain a fugitive, and when the door got kicked in, he got put down.

He chose his path. Not unlike any variety of situations involving police action on high risk warrant servings, which also don't make it to trial in some situations.
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I don't have a problem with it. Just saying that all this being okay with it lies on the solid assumption that he guilty as all hell.

In some cases we are okay with throwing out the rules and doing what we know to be right.
 
#61
#61
nbakerld said:
In my opinion, OBL deserved to die, but it didn't have to be such an easy way out (bullet to the head? Come on!). I would prefer to have brought him in alive.
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Public examination of his intestines while he is alive? No anesthetic?
 
#62
#62
I was thinking the way they did in England was the way to do it.
Drawn and quartered.
 
#63
#63
Yes it is morally acceptable. He is responsible for the deaths of thousands. He is better off dead than alive. Would anyone have had a problem if the U.S. had assassinated Adolf Hitler? I don't think so....
 
#64
#64
VolsNSkinsFan said:
"Joe bag of donuts" who walks into a 7-11 and robs it and kills the clerk does not deserve to die. He deserves to sit in a jail cell 23.5 hours a day for the rest of his life
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Why should I have to pay for a murderer to live?
 
#67
#67
therealUT said:
I am just interested to see how an individual could look down upon waterboarding terrorists yet celebrate the killing of an unarmed man who had no right to any kind of trial or tribunal.

From my perspective, those positions are morally contradictory.
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In theory, I would have to agree. I feel that if you are against waterboarding then you should also be for bringing in criminals alive.

But I personally am for testicles roasting over an open fire if it means saving an innocent life so shooting this SOB during the one minute of his lifetime that he decided to put down his gun is just fine by me.
 
#68
#68
VolsNSkinsFan said:
its cheaper than killing him


Dalai Lama has come out in support of US actions
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My feeling is if you are convicted of murder and the evidence is overwhelming to that end, you should die in the same manner as your victim(s). Bin Laden should have been burned at the stake. That would get him ready for his eternal punishment.
 
#70
#70
superdave1984 said:
My feeling is if you are convicted of murder and the evidence is overwhelming to that end, you should die in the same manner as your victim(s). Bin Laden should have been burned at the stake. That would get him ready for his eternal punishment.
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Thats cool and I understand, but I just dont think someone who makes a quick and bad decision should be punished by death
 
#71
#71
Volst53 said:
The fact is that there are many shades of grey, but we try to group things into black or white.
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Agreed.

I personally take the original question as rhetorical. It seems like a contradiction to me, but I am not certain that it really is necessarily.
 
#73
#73
superdave1984 said:
My feeling is if you are convicted of murder and the evidence is overwhelming to that end, you should die in the same manner as your victim(s). Bin Laden should have been burned at the stake. That would get him ready for his eternal punishment.
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So you aren't a follower of Christ? My mistake.
 
#75
#75
VolsNSkinsFan said:
Thats cool and I understand, but I just dont think someone who makes a quick and bad decision should be punished by death
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Yet society should support him? Just makes no sense to me that a person kills another, even in the heat of the moment, and now we have to pay for him to live.
 
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