More Climate BS...

[Elhanan]

I want clean air, water, and healthy soil. I want natural process to determine what animals go extinct. I want innovation and future tech to become available to as many people as possible. But I also want a thriving free market.

I think the two can balance but not if we are stuck in an either or situation. Buy more from companies that act responsibly and less from those that don’t but the only way average people can afford that is if the economy is growing. And right now it’s in the crapper.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I say this as a big time beef consumer:

It’s stupid if they’re saying cows produce the CO2. It’s not stupid to say that cows are extremely inefficient as livestock/a food source. Beef is impractical long term as the population grows, food insecurity rises, cost of transportation rises, and land is more of a premium… it’s just a fact.

But beef is the healthiest food a human can eat. We need to decrease the land used for vegetables and increase the land for meat.

 

[Orangeburst]

But beef is the healthiest food a human can eat. We need to decrease the land used for vegetables and increase the land for meat.

Yes! I like meat!
Not that there is anything wrong with it

 

[PEPPERJAX]

But beef is the healthiest food a human can eat. We need to decrease the land used for vegetables and increase the land for meat.

Purge the USA of golf courses and let cows graze there. Vegetables are more important than golf.

 

[Wireless1]

Purge the USA of golf courses and let cows graze there. Vegetables are more important than golf.

https://www.researchgate.net/public..._sink_of_atmospheric_CO2_A_modelling_approach
Golf Courses are net consumers of CO2....so let them and cows both prosper.......It's Kerry and Gore that have huge carbon footprints.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

https://www.researchgate.net/public..._sink_of_atmospheric_CO2_A_modelling_approach
Golf Courses are net consumers of CO2....so let them and cows both prosper.......It's Kerry and Gore that have huge carbon footprints.

Throw in soccer fields too!

 

[MG1968]

Throw in soccer fields too!

They’re called pitches you rube.

 

[hog88]

They’re called pitches you rube.

Let the cows pitch some patties on them while they graze.

 

[GoBigOrangeUT]

https://www.researchgate.net/public..._sink_of_atmospheric_CO2_A_modelling_approach
Golf Courses are net consumers of CO2....so let them and cows both prosper.......It's Kerry and Gore that have huge carbon footprints.

Not just them. Pretty much every Uber wealthy person. What really offends me are these corporations telling me I need to use paper straws or eat less meat because I’m the problem, ignoring the fact that most of these corporations have raped the planet for decades and now instead of fixing the problem, they want to sell me something else. **** all corporations.

 

[hog88]

Not just them. Pretty much every Uber wealthy person. What really offends me are these corporations telling me I need to use paper straws or eat less meat because I’m the problem, ignoring the fact that most of these corporations have raped the planet for decades and now instead of fixing the problem, they want to sell me something else. **** all corporations.

Hell yeah! Your life would be so much better if there were no corporations.

 

[MG1968]

Hell yeah! Your life would be so much better if there were no corporations.

Umbrella, Aperture Science, and Omni Consumer Products are three of my favorites.

 

[McDad]

Not just them. Pretty much every Uber wealthy person. What really offends me are these corporations telling me I need to use paper straws or eat less meat because I’m the problem, ignoring the fact that most of these corporations have raped the planet for decades and now instead of fixing the problem, they want to sell me something else. **** all corporations.

I can introduce you to some Amish if you're sincere. They'd be willing to show you their lifestyle.

 

[StarRaider]

I can introduce you to some Amish if you're sincere. They'd be willing to show you their lifestyle.

 

[Orangeburst]

I can introduce you to some Amish if you're sincere. They'd be willing to show you their lifestyle.

I contemplate..Be self sustaining and such. I was a pro grade bowler before circumstance took my hand.

 

[Carl Pickens]

This looks like something out of Mad magazine or off of SNL…. Should have had two little fat bastard kids in the story
Even CBS is not buying this piece of Climate ********…

 

[Pepe_Silvia]

Purge the USA of golf courses and let cows graze there. Vegetables are more important than golf.

I'll take it a step further and say that every American should be required to raise a cow from calf to harvest. That includes the people living in tiny apartments in NYC.

 

[SlingBlayde]

Non-politicized science...

World Climate Declaration - Clintel

 

[EasternVol]

Not just them. Pretty much every Uber wealthy person. What really offends me are these corporations telling me I need to use paper straws or eat less meat because I’m the problem, ignoring the fact that most of these corporations have raped the planet for decades and now instead of fixing the problem, they want to sell me something else. **** all corporations.

Which corporations tell you to use paper straws and all that? Could it be that they're marketing what they make? I doubt Raytheon is in your ear about your meat consumption.

 

[85SugarVol]

I can introduce you to some Amish if you're sincere. They'd be willing to show you their lifestyle.

He’s not. Just wants to bitch about Capitalism.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Check this out:

GM and Ford have said all electric by 2030 and 2035. Dodge just cancelled the Charger and Challenger. All car makers going electric. These are facts, opinions, and questions apparently nobody is asking:


There are 145,000 gas stations in the US. We will need AT LEAST as many charging stations bc it takes longer to charge a car by far than to fill up with gas...home charging could probably offset to an even number...but where are the 145,000 charging stations? Who is gonna build 10 or 15 000 of them a year???

When are we starting construction on the 10 or 15 Nuclear power stations we will need to make enough juice to power electric cars and 18 wheelers for 330 MILLION Americans to drive and charge daily?

Where are all the sub stations, power lines, power poles, the factories to manufacture the products needed to build all of these things, the raw materials for them, the heavy equipment to construct them, the millions of blue collar young folks to build, dig, drive, assemble, wire, test, etc all of this electric infrastructure gonna come from? I have a 21yo and a 14yo...and i see their peers frequently. They aint manly like some of their Dads are.


Where the F$%k is all this gonna come from? The only nuclear plant i know of under construction in the entire US is Vogel part 3 and 4 in northern GA....and only because it was approved...in the 1980s.

The leftist climate electric bullsheit is complete fantasy...with apparently exactly zero forethought, planning, leadership, infrastructure, or possibility of happening a full generation (20 years minimum) after everyone is supposedly stopping production of vehicles that burn dinosaur juice.

Ideas? Thoughts?

Even 1 of you full of sheit leftist morons who cannot grasp the 20,000 year ice age/ hot as Hell cycle want to try and explain where the electricity is gonna magically come from in the next decade to power all these electric cars rhat are gonna be manufactured?

How about the fact that in many places the grid is already over burdened and generally operates at about what 60% efficiency? Are we finally up to 70% ? Meaning for every single kw of electricity produced, 40% is lost and never used due to the inefficency of power lines, sub stations, and other inefficiencies in the grid? How many MORE nuclear power stations will that necessitate? 10? How many decades...not years...decades does it take on average to get a single reactor approved, constructed, and online? Wanna take a guess?

Why is our country planning for a future of unicorns, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy as the source of energy for every means of transportation in the country with the largest economy in the world?

Why have i never read a single article about this or even heard mention of it? Anyone?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Check this out:

GM and Ford have said all electric by 2030 and 2035. Dodge just cancelled the Charger and Challenger. All car makers going electric. These are facts:

There are 145,000 gas stations in the US. We will need AT LEAST as many charging stations bc it takes longer to charge a car by far than to fill up with gas...home charging could probably offset to an even number...but where are the 145,000 charging stations? Who is gonna build 10 or 15 000 of them a year???

When are we starting construction on the 10 or 15 Nuclear power stations we will need to make enough juice to power electric cars and 18 wheelers for 330 MILLION Americans to drive and charge daily?

Where are all the sub stations, power lines, power poles, the factories to manufacture the products needed to build all of these things, the raw materials for them, the heavy equipment to construct them, the millions of blue collar young folks to build, dig, drive, assemble, wire, test, etc all of this electric infrastructure gonna come from? I have a 21yo and a 14yo...and i see their peers frequently. They aint manly like some of their Dads are.


Where the F$%k is all this gonna come from? The only nuclear plant i know of under construction in the entire US is Vogel part 3 and 4 in northern GA....and only because it was approved...in the 1980s.

The leftist climate electric bullsheit is complete fantasy...with apparently exactly zero forethought, planning, leadership, infrastructure, or possibility of happening a full generation (20 years minimum) after everyone is supposedly stopping production of vehicles that burn dinosaur juice.

Ideas? Thoughts?

Even 1 of you full of sheit leftist morons who cannot grasp the 20,000 year ice age/ hot as Hell cycle want to try and explain where the electricity is gonna magically come from in the next decade to power all these electric cars rhat are gonna be manufactured?

How about the fact that in many places the grid is already over burdened and generally operates at about what 60% efficiency? Are we finally up to 70% ? Meaning for every single kw of electricity produced, 40% is lost and never used due to the inefficency of power lines, sub stations, and other inefficiencies in the grid? How many MORE nuclear power stations will that necessitate? 10? How many decades...not years...decades does it take on average to get a single reactor approved, constructed, and online? Wanna take a guess?

Why is our country planning for a future of unicorns, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy as the source of energy for every means of transportation in the country with the largest economy in the world?

Why have i never read a single article about this or eveb heard mention of it? Anyone?

In three years I will be retired... sitting on my porch somewhere in East Tennessee sipping on a Blanton's.....

and laughing hysterically at the meltdown.

 

[Smokey X]

Check this out:

GM and Ford have said all electric by 2030 and 2035. Dodge just cancelled the Charger and Challenger. All car makers going electric. These are facts, opinions, and questions apparently nobody is asking:


There are 145,000 gas stations in the US. We will need AT LEAST as many charging stations bc it takes longer to charge a car by far than to fill up with gas...home charging could probably offset to an even number...but where are the 145,000 charging stations? Who is gonna build 10 or 15 000 of them a year???

When are we starting construction on the 10 or 15 Nuclear power stations we will need to make enough juice to power electric cars and 18 wheelers for 330 MILLION Americans to drive and charge daily?

Where are all the sub stations, power lines, power poles, the factories to manufacture the products needed to build all of these things, the raw materials for them, the heavy equipment to construct them, the millions of blue collar young folks to build, dig, drive, assemble, wire, test, etc all of this electric infrastructure gonna come from? I have a 21yo and a 14yo...and i see their peers frequently. They aint manly like some of their Dads are.


Where the F$%k is all this gonna come from? The only nuclear plant i know of under construction in the entire US is Vogel part 3 and 4 in northern GA....and only because it was approved...in the 1980s.

The leftist climate electric bullsheit is complete fantasy...with apparently exactly zero forethought, planning, leadership, infrastructure, or possibility of happening a full generation (20 years minimum) after everyone is supposedly stopping production of vehicles that burn dinosaur juice.

Ideas? Thoughts?

Even 1 of you full of sheit leftist morons who cannot grasp the 20,000 year ice age/ hot as Hell cycle want to try and explain where the electricity is gonna magically come from in the next decade to power all these electric cars rhat are gonna be manufactured?

How about the fact that in many places the grid is already over burdened and generally operates at about what 60% efficiency? Are we finally up to 70% ? Meaning for every single kw of electricity produced, 40% is lost and never used due to the inefficency of power lines, sub stations, and other inefficiencies in the grid? How many MORE nuclear power stations will that necessitate? 10? How many decades...not years...decades does it take on average to get a single reactor approved, constructed, and online? Wanna take a guess?

Why is our country planning for a future of unicorns, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy as the source of energy for every means of transportation in the country with the largest economy in the world?

Why have i never read a single article about this or even heard mention of it? Anyone?

well said.....apparently the thought is that if enough people say it will be so, then they will speak it in to existence.

 

[VolStrom]

Check this out:

GM and Ford have said all electric by 2030 and 2035. Dodge just cancelled the Charger and Challenger. All car makers going electric. These are facts, opinions, and questions apparently nobody is asking:


There are 145,000 gas stations in the US. We will need AT LEAST as many charging stations bc it takes longer to charge a car by far than to fill up with gas...home charging could probably offset to an even number...but where are the 145,000 charging stations? Who is gonna build 10 or 15 000 of them a year???

When are we starting construction on the 10 or 15 Nuclear power stations we will need to make enough juice to power electric cars and 18 wheelers for 330 MILLION Americans to drive and charge daily?

Where are all the sub stations, power lines, power poles, the factories to manufacture the products needed to build all of these things, the raw materials for them, the heavy equipment to construct them, the millions of blue collar young folks to build, dig, drive, assemble, wire, test, etc all of this electric infrastructure gonna come from? I have a 21yo and a 14yo...and i see their peers frequently. They aint manly like some of their Dads are.


Where the F$%k is all this gonna come from? The only nuclear plant i know of under construction in the entire US is Vogel part 3 and 4 in northern GA....and only because it was approved...in the 1980s.

The leftist climate electric bullsheit is complete fantasy...with apparently exactly zero forethought, planning, leadership, infrastructure, or possibility of happening a full generation (20 years minimum) after everyone is supposedly stopping production of vehicles that burn dinosaur juice.

Ideas? Thoughts?

Even 1 of you full of sheit leftist morons who cannot grasp the 20,000 year ice age/ hot as Hell cycle want to try and explain where the electricity is gonna magically come from in the next decade to power all these electric cars rhat are gonna be manufactured?

How about the fact that in many places the grid is already over burdened and generally operates at about what 60% efficiency? Are we finally up to 70% ? Meaning for every single kw of electricity produced, 40% is lost and never used due to the inefficency of power lines, sub stations, and other inefficiencies in the grid? How many MORE nuclear power stations will that necessitate? 10? How many decades...not years...decades does it take on average to get a single reactor approved, constructed, and online? Wanna take a guess?

Why is our country planning for a future of unicorns, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy as the source of energy for every means of transportation in the country with the largest economy in the world?

Why have i never read a single article about this or even heard mention of it? Anyone?

I'll be taking a dirt nap by the time the idiots pushing this agenda has succeeded in pushing this through and figured out that gee, we don't have the infrastructure needed to make it work. The infrastructure bill that the democrats were so fond of didn't really address power other than wind and solar, and we all know that won't ever supply enough, just like Germany is figuring out. The only way this will ever work is if they abolish the atomic energy commission and build 20 reactors a year for the next 20 years.

 

[Wireless1]

Check this out:

GM and Ford have said all electric by 2030 and 2035. Dodge just cancelled the Charger and Challenger. All car makers going electric. These are facts, opinions, and questions apparently nobody is asking:


There are 145,000 gas stations in the US. We will need AT LEAST as many charging stations bc it takes longer to charge a car by far than to fill up with gas...home charging could probably offset to an even number...but where are the 145,000 charging stations? Who is gonna build 10 or 15 000 of them a year???

When are we starting construction on the 10 or 15 Nuclear power stations we will need to make enough juice to power electric cars and 18 wheelers for 330 MILLION Americans to drive and charge daily?

Where are all the sub stations, power lines, power poles, the factories to manufacture the products needed to build all of these things, the raw materials for them, the heavy equipment to construct them, the millions of blue collar young folks to build, dig, drive, assemble, wire, test, etc all of this electric infrastructure gonna come from? I have a 21yo and a 14yo...and i see their peers frequently. They aint manly like some of their Dads are.


Where the F$%k is all this gonna come from? The only nuclear plant i know of under construction in the entire US is Vogel part 3 and 4 in northern GA....and only because it was approved...in the 1980s.

The leftist climate electric bullsheit is complete fantasy...with apparently exactly zero forethought, planning, leadership, infrastructure, or possibility of happening a full generation (20 years minimum) after everyone is supposedly stopping production of vehicles that burn dinosaur juice.

Ideas? Thoughts?

Even 1 of you full of sheit leftist morons who cannot grasp the 20,000 year ice age/ hot as Hell cycle want to try and explain where the electricity is gonna magically come from in the next decade to power all these electric cars rhat are gonna be manufactured?

How about the fact that in many places the grid is already over burdened and generally operates at about what 60% efficiency? Are we finally up to 70% ? Meaning for every single kw of electricity produced, 40% is lost and never used due to the inefficency of power lines, sub stations, and other inefficiencies in the grid? How many MORE nuclear power stations will that necessitate? 10? How many decades...not years...decades does it take on average to get a single reactor approved, constructed, and online? Wanna take a guess?

Why is our country planning for a future of unicorns, Santa Claus, and the Tooth Fairy as the source of energy for every means of transportation in the country with the largest economy in the world?

Why have i never read a single article about this or even heard mention of it? Anyone?

Just because the Big 3 decide to stop making combustion propelled cars doesn't forbid anyone in he rest of the world to do so. If the mexican cartel had a brain I know where I'd start my investment. DIsassemble an American plant and reassemble just across the border.

 

[VolStrom]

Just because the Big 3 decide to stop making combustion propelled cars doesn't forbid anyone in he rest of the world to do so. If the mexican cartel had a brain I know where I'd start my investment. DIsassemble an American plant and reassemble just across the border.

They probably make more vehicles in Mexico than they do in the US today anyway. But you're right, all they have to do is crank up an old American plant and start cranking out ice cars and put the big 3 under forever. Battery powered cars aren't going to work until the electric grid can support it, and the batteries and raw materials come from the US as well.