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MurphyVol said:
I can't link it, but I heard a report that several states reported that many of their largest polluters were recycling centers. Now, I believe they said the biggest culprits were aluminum recycling centers, but don't hold me to that.

Think about this- are you better to eat off paper plates or to pump 7 gallons of hot soapy water into the ground? I don't have an answer. But I agree something needs to change.

I read about work with microbes that eat plastic that sounds promising.

Unfortunately recycling isn't nearly as efficient as you and I (and your girl AOC) would like for it to be. I do hope it improves.

And I do agree with your article that methane from cows is a huge issue
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LMGTFY - Let Me Google That For You

You're welcome.

Oh, and that aluminum thing?

Aluminum is recycling’s new best friend, but it’s complicated
 
#53
#53
The sky is not falling yet. We can just wait until there is a major ocean die off or a billion refugees from areas that may become uninhabitable. No use in worrying about it now. Everything is fine.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
The sky is not falling yet. We can just wait until there is a major ocean die off or a billion refugees from areas that may become uninhabitable. No use in worrying about it now. Everything is fine.
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Tell China and India to make painful cuts and massive deficit spending now and I just might get on board..Nah.
 
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McDad said:
I admire the honesty of anyone audacious enough to admit acting incongruous with their worries and concerns. Especially when the science is so iron clad. The admonition to think globally and act locally should be an incontrovertible precept. If those who are most sincere about our plight are too selfish to follow this oath, how can those of us who aren't concerned be expected to?

Posting warnings on a message board is easy. Changing our selfish, sinful ways is far more challenging.
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That’s why I just give in to the sin. It’s way more fun!
 
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Grand Vol said:
"Third largest" meaning it's not the number one like you stated in your original post.

I mean, I'm posting facts here. You're slinging crap.

You want to know what else will help the climate before you go removing cows from the equation? Recycling the hell out of everything. Now, explain to me why we as Americans cannot (or will not) recycle the living **** out of #1-7 plastics? Or the cardboard Amazon boxes you probably regularly throw out? (which emits methane, by the way) Or any number of metals, computer boards, ABS plastics and anything other than organic materials?

You see, we, as a country, don't recycle quite as much as we should. Furthermore, we send a whole metric ****-ton (like actual metric tons) of our plastics overseas where it's recycled. Why is that not an organic industry here that's working overtime?

Furthermore, why do we limit the types of plastic at most recycle centers? In my local single stream recycle area, I'm limited to #1 and 2 plastics, paper, cardboard, steel and aluminum cans. Oh, and no shredded paper, no #5 polypropylene (which is a VERY common plastic found in our society), no plastic shopping bags, no oversize items, no ABS plastics, no #6 Styrofoam (again, extremely common) no appliances regardless of size.

You want to make an environmental impact? Start recycling like Germany does. I actually limited myself to a single plastic shopping bag of garbage per week. Everything else was put into the yellow recycle bags (including potato chip bags) or into the paper bin (which included all forms of paper, they just shredded it regardless if it was paper, carboard or paperboard) and removed every week.

Ask yourself why we:

1) export a lot of our recycling
2) don't encourage recycling more at the local level (it can make a whole lot of money)
3) Don't focus on things that can be achieved easily like recycling instead of focusing on cow farts like your girl AOC.
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Actually, he’s slinging farts, not crap.
 
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MurphyVol said:
My actions and the actions of billions of other selfish humans (including you) don't change science. You can deflect to me all you like but we need to change our power grid and food sources.
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Nah, we just need to reduce the amount of humans on the planet.
 
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#59
hog88 said:
Nah, we just need to reduce the amount of humans on the planet.
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We're already doing that in the western world with a reproduction rate of about 1.5 hence the lefts panic to import people. I don't recall seeing any numbers, but how many pounds of CO2 does the average human expel every year? I think if we lower the numbers by a few billion and convert everyone over to vegan food and coal fired electric cars we'll be just fine.
 
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K-town Vol Fan said:
Effects of Global Warming
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So, if I read that right (and thanks for posting it) the earth's ecosystems will go through some significant changes, but nothing the earth's ecosystems haven't experienced during the many warming cycles in the history of the planet. The main concern of the article is about man's problems with climate change. But humans are very adaptive, so I still don't see reason for concern.
 
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MurphyVol said:
I couldn't tell you about that, I'm a hardcore conservative and I recognize that our stockpiles of uranium could turn us into the Saudia Arabia of nuclear power. We have enough to fuel the new mini reactors and sell the excess to other nations.

I can't speak for the enviro crowd, they're morons.

Also, here's a cut and paste from the article you linked

Why we should reduce livestock emissions
In Australia, direct livestock emissions account for about 70% of greenhouse gas emissions by the agricultural sector and 11% of total national greenhouse gas emissions. This makes Australia’s livestock the third largest source of greenhouse gas emissions after the energy and transport sectors. Livestock are the dominant source of methane (CH4) and nitrous oxide
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Go eat some lab grown meat you wimp.
 
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Hunerwadel said:
The sky is not falling yet. We can just wait until there is a major ocean die off or a billion refugees from areas that may become uninhabitable. No use in worrying about it now. Everything is fine.
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We'll all be dead by then so who cares?
 
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youcancallmeAl said:
So, if I read that right (and thanks for posting it) the earth's ecosystems will go through some significant changes, but nothing the earth's ecosystems haven't experienced during the many warming cycles in the history of the planet. The main concern of the article is about man's problems with climate change. But humans are very adaptive, so I still don't see reason for concern.
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Warmer temps mean longer growing seasons mean more food mean less hunger for our "overpopulated" planet, right?

I'll admit I've enjoyed watching the cognitive dissonance from what I presume is a live human in real time here in this thread.
 
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#70
"Everyone else bear the responsibility but I'm not going to because I'm selfish." -@MurphyVol
 
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#71
Go Green and get an electric vehicle with non carbon "magic energy holes in the wall". Unbelievably stupid.
No nuclear, no coal, no gas...just windmills and solar. Yep, that is what the hardcore wants.
Epic failure of mass proportions.
 
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Orangeburst said:
Go Green and get an electric vehicle with non carbon "magic energy holes in the wall". Unbelievably stupid.
No nuclear, no coal, no gas...just windmills and solar. Yep, that is what the hardcore wants.
Epic failure of mass proportions.
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I don't get the Tesla thing either. You eliminate gasoline by plugging into the coal grid.
 
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#75
ButchPlz said:
And they wouldn't be buying massive homes in coastal plains.
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I think micro plastic is a serious problem…or will be in the near future. If you were to travel with me for one day you’d know I believed that even if I never said a word about it. That’s what happens when you have a belief.
 
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