more covid discussion from the basketball thread

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TheMookieMonster said:
It’s probably best a thread like this exists on this forum, otherwise it would continue to infect the other threads that are actually about basketball. Just steer clear of this one and head over to one of the other threads for game talk. I’ve had my fair share of weakness and replied about non-basketball stuff, but as long as this thread stays active it will at least keep those that never actually come to this forum unless it’s about COVID in one place instead of many places.
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I know what you mean. Have been trying to skip through post to see if the rumor is true or not instead of all the other stuff all of us have had shoved down our throats be it on the news, search engines, social media, etc., etc., etc. and looks to be now here. I have got the shots and booster (may have been sugar water as far as I know) I value everyone's right to take the shot or not. Lets just talk about basketball and our Vols.
 
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voltnh said:
Your point being? 93% if those were over the age of 50. 26% were over the age of 85. Not to sound cruel, but most of those 93% were at serious risk of death due to any sort of illness, not just covid.
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My point being— you cannot date my grandfather.
 
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johnboyhunter said:
800,000 people haven’t died of the flu during COVID. Geez!! And yes if someone has the flu or any other sickness they should stay away from others. Pretty sure if players have the flu they will be kept away from other players.
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Neither have 800,000 due from covid.... its with covid. Huge difference
 
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omghulkhands said:
This vaccine isn’t one that eliminates the chance you get contract the virus. The public seems to largely be misinformed about this and only is finally starting to come around on understanding that.

It reduces the likelihood by generating anybodies and reduces your symptoms.

to John Boy’s point, 90%+ of the people dying in the US now are unvaccinated. Meaning if everyone was vaccinated, we’d be having 160 die a day, instead of 1600. It would effectively be controlled.

I don’t think this last 25% of the population or whatever will be swayed enough to get the shot, so we likely will enter a process of natural selection soon where no protocols exist anymore and if you die, it’s your own fault because vaccines are available (and free)
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Just fyi the definition of a vaccine was changed in April 2021. The original definition of a vaccine would not fit the current vaxs, it was changed to fit the covid vax narrative.
Language Log » Merriam-Webster gives "vaccine" a new definition
 
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johnboyhunter said:
less chance of catching COVID if vaxxed. And agree if your healthy, and vaccinated, and young very little risk. Not saying you may not feel sick. But you can still catch COVID and because of being vaxxed less severe. But they still have to follow protocols if infected because there are others involved besides the players. Can’t have COVID positive players around coaches, staff, refs, etc…. Got to follow quarantine protocols.

FYI I never mentioned politics and don’t mention politics on social media. I’m in healthcare so seem a lot the bad and ugly of COVID in numerous hospitals.
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Interesting perspective being that the highest rates of covid are in areas with the highest vaccination rates and the rate of those who are vaccinated and getting covid multiple times is rising.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
It should be tho.... prevention of virus/illness is a vax.... this vax is kin to nyquill as it just lessons symptoms...
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The yearly flu vaccine has often accomplished little more than a lessening of symptoms, but no one argued pre-COVID that it wasn't a vaccine. Lessening the symptoms of COVID is a very big deal.

Anyway, we've strayed from a discussion of COVID protocols as they affect college basketball to a general discussion of the pandemic and our societal response to it. Since there's a (sane) discussion of that topic in the Pub and two discussions (less sane) in Politics, I won't comment further on this subject here.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
That’s an irrelevant distinction. The difference between past vaccines and COVID19 vaccines is the use of rna to emulate a spike protein in immune activation.
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I was wrong on the date... first breakthrough case was on may 1st.... definition change on may 24th... pure coincidence, im sure
 
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DuckInAPen said:
The yearly flu vaccine has often accomplished little more than a lessening of symptoms, but no one argued pre-COVID that it wasn't a vaccine. Lessening the symptoms of COVID is a very big deal.

Anyway, we've strayed from a discussion of COVID protocols as they affect college basketball to a general discussion of the pandemic and our societal response to it. Since there's a (sane) discussion of that topic in the Pub and two discussions (less sane) in Politics, I won't comment further on this subject here.
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True but that's due to not knowing what flu variant is use if guessed correctly your prevented from getting that strain....1st breakthrough case was same covid strain... but your right.. of basketball subject..
 
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DuckInAPen said:
"Comorbidity" does not mean "one foot in the grave."
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True. There are those with comorbidities that have fully recovered, just like most that have gotten the virus. Contrary to the panic porn, covid is not an auto death sentence for anyone. However, if you are elderly or have a comorbidity that leaves you immunocompromised, you're at a greater risk of severe illness or death. Also, and it may sound cruel but is factual nonetheless, a great many of those, especially over the age of 70, that died would have been dead in 6 months anyway, even in a world without covid.

None of this is a reason to keep college kids from playing basketball.
 
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1TheCoach1 said:
Interesting perspective being that the highest rates of covid are in areas with the highest vaccination rates and the rate of those who are vaccinated and getting covid multiple times is rising.
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Yep more break through cases than earlier variants but look at hospitalizations rates of vaccinated versus unvaccinated . Your likely to do a lot lot better if vaccinated versus not in preventing Severe Covid .
 
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whodeycin85 said:
Neither have 800,000 due from covid.... its with covid. Huge difference
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Look at US death rate prior to COVID and after COVID . It’s a complete joke for people to claim if you die from falling off a ladder and you had COVID for the to say COVID killed you. And COVID does cause a lot of other health issues with the heart etc….
 
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