More liberal politicians believe they need to choose for Mommy and Daddy

#27
#27
Good. I'm tired of fat people, and the amazing number of fat children is pretty depressing. I don't like things being regulated by the government; but in the case of childhood obesity, kids are fed what they eat and I consider it child abuse. Kids all over America are being set up for a lifetime of health problems and complications at an alarming rate, not to mention self esteem, body image, and bullying issues.
 
#29
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VOLinFL_ said:
Good. I'm tired of fat people, and the amazing number of fat children is pretty depressing. I don't like things being regulated by the government; but in the case of childhood obesity, kids are fed what they eat and I consider it child abuse. Kids all over America are being set up for a lifetime of health problems and complications at an alarming rate, not to mention self esteem, body image, and bullying issues.
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I don't like skinny people or people that live a long time. The longer one lives, the longer they will be living in retirement, collecting Social Security, receiving Medicare Benefits, and not producing. So, not making children fat, since they cannot choose what they eat, is what I consider social abuse. It's pretty depressing and, frankly, I am tired of it.
 
#30
#30
Gramps said:
Your point being ?

He appears to have descent amount of knowledge concerning food. He looks qualified to me....
I would believe he could tell you what's good and what's not.
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I can tell myself what is good and what is not. I dont need Councilman BulbberButt to tell me what I/my kids can and can not eat
 
#31
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VOLinFL_ said:
Good. I'm tired of fat people, and the amazing number of fat children is pretty depressing. I don't like things being regulated by the government; but in the case of childhood obesity, kids are fed what they eat and I consider it child abuse. Kids all over America are being set up for a lifetime of health problems and complications at an alarming rate, not to mention self esteem, body image, and bullying issues.
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Sounds like it's the parent's fault, not McDonald's.
 
#32
#32
NEOCON said:
So you agree second hand smoke can kill you but that it's not proven it kills you faster than actual first hand smoke?

Why are we even bothering debating this?

My point is prostitution is a choice between the john and hooker.

Gay marriage is a choice bewtween the gays.

Gambling is a choice made by the gambler.

Breathing second hand smoke is not a choice by the one breathing it when smoking is allowed publicly everywhere. It is unavoidable and not fair.

I do believe you should be allowed to smoke in the right place. I can't get drunk publicly either. If I could, I might be sloshed from dawn to dusk.
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When daddy goes out and decides to blow the paycheck at Harrah's, does that not affect you (being the child)?
 
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salutethehill said:
When daddy goes out and decides to blow the paycheck at Harrah's, does that not affect you (being the child)?
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You are talking within the family network.

I am talking society as a whole.

The world is never going to be perfect. You can't create Utopia.

I am also sick of people always using the extreme situation for every example.

You can die from drinking too much water.

But what if the guy eats too many bananas?

What of the guy takes too many iron supplements?

What if the guy starts going to the gym and meets a hot 18 year old with a nicde tight bum and cheats on his wife and spends all his money on the new chick and his kids starve daddy's never there?

What if the guy meets a gay guy and realizes he likes it backdoor and enjoys broadway shows and leaves his wife and the kids starve because he's spending all his money on tickets to Cats?

What if man? Come on, you gotta protect the children?
 
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#34
#34
Personal accountability is a highly important value to me.

But when it comes to public health initiatives in the 70's and 80's, they deliberately took a personal accountability perspective and outcomes had little, if any, improvement. They were smart enough 40-50 years ago to start taking a look in what people should be doing to live healthy lives, but that was the end of it. They do the research and say "Here's what you need to do." And that was the end of it.

Then over the last 20 years, they found that changing peoples environments and to a lesser extent, consciousness about healthy lifestyle choices is working. We still have a long way to go, but that is the correct approach. Eliminating much of public smoking is a perfect example of this.

Now whether or not that means banning happy meals, I dunno... But hey, it's their town, they can run it how they want.
 
#36
#36
VolsNSkinsFan said:
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This guy is telling us what we should eat?
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Dang, Tyler Perry did it again. I can't even tell it's him.
 
#38
#38
NEOCON said:
You are talking within the family network.

I am talking society as a whole.

The world is never going to be perfect. You can't create Utopia.

I am also sick of people always using the extreme situation for every example.

You can die from drinking too much water.

But what if the guy eats too many bananas?

What of the guy takes too many iron supplements?

What if the guy starts going to the gym and meets a hot 18 year old with a nicde tight bum and cheats on his wife and spends all his money on the new chick and his kids starve daddy's never there?

What if the guy meets a gay guy and realizes he likes it backdoor and enjoys broadway shows and leaves his wife and the kids starve because he's spending all his money on tickets to Cats?

What if man? Come on, you gotta protect the children?
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Bad gambling choices affect plenty of families. It's not that extreme of a scenario.

I wonder how many welfare/Medicaid/WIC/etc recipients pick up Powerball tickets at the gas station?
 
#39
#39
milohimself said:
Then over the last 20 years, they found that changing peoples environments and to a lesser extent, consciousness about healthy lifestyle choices is working. We still have a long way to go, but that is the correct approach. Eliminating much of public smoking is a perfect example of this.

Now whether or not that means banning happy meals, I dunno... But hey, it's their town, they can run it how they want.
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banning happy meals is on the same level as the banning of smoking that you in favor of. Gov't stepping in because the people aren't smart enough to do it themselves

NEOCON said:
Breathing second hand smoke is not a choice by the one breathing it when smoking is allowed publicly everywhere. It is unavoidable and not fair.
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sure it's avoidable. I can't remember the last time I even smelled cigarette smoke
 
#41
#41
now they're just getting silly

School's food is the only option for some kids - chicagotribune.com

At his public school, Little Village Academy on Chicago's West Side, students are not allowed to pack lunches from home. Unless they have a medical excuse, they must eat the food served in the cafeteria.
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Any school that bans homemade lunches also puts more money in the pockets of the district's food provider, Chartwells-Thompson. The federal government pays the district for each free or reduced-price lunch taken, and the caterer receives a set fee from the district per lunch.
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#43
#43
Not being able to pack a lunch means kids will never learn just how much crap someone will give you for Snackpack pudding.

Back in my day, any kid lucky enough to bring some Space Food Sticks to school was king.

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#48
Vol423 said:
Strongly disagree. I prefer their old fries.
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Et me some the other night that taste like a over cooked potato chip, and their salt shaker must have been low to boot.

Needed a large frosty to get em washed down.
 
#49
#49
BeecherVol said:
Et me some the other night that taste like a over cooked potato chip, and their salt shaker must have been low to boot.

Needed a large frosty to get em washed down.
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You dip them in the frosty. I can't explain it, but it's good.
 
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