Morris Claiborne-- wonderlic score...

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LSU-SIU said:
Boy, that test is pretty easy.

With that said, I have no idea why those guys even do that test anyway. I mean it's not like you are going to improve your draft status based on that test anyway.

I remember when I was a kid and every year the schools would do a test that took like 2 days, I think to grade the schools. I would just pick B for every answer and be done in like 2 minutes. They let you leave the class until the next section.

Claiborne should still go rather high but to me he has maxed out whereas I felt Peterson had a much higher ceiling.
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It's a requirement.
 
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Catch the punt and run...cover the receiver...he will still go in the first round and play on Sunday. It's not like the guy has to use a slide rule or an equation to cover a WR on D
 
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jwp1223 said:
It's a requirement.
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For what? Does the NFL require everyone to take a test to get drafted? So they pay every eligible player to go take the test? Seriously, I don't even know how this is workable. I don't see how that can be a requirement as if you are not drafted than they are free agents.

I thought only selected players even go to the combine. I always thought players could skip whatever they wanted at the combine.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
For what? Does the NFL require everyone to take a test to get drafted? So they pay every eligible player to go take the test? Seriously, I don't even know how this is workable. I don't see how that can be a requirement as if you are not drafted than they are free agents.

I thought only selected players even go to the combine. I always thought players could skip whatever they wanted at the combine.
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It's a requirement to become draft eligible. Every player takes it if they have any desire to play in the league. And they offer the test at various times, not just at the combine.
 
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Wow. They sure are making a big deal out of this. The guy is still a good player and I don't see him slipping any spots because of it. Plenty of great players score badly on these test.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
Wow. They sure are making a big deal out of this. The guy is still a good player and I don't see him slipping any spots because of it. Plenty of great players score badly on these test.
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Exactly, Scoring a 4 on the ACT never stopped Alabama from recruiting anyone
 
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bamawriter said:
It's a requirement to become draft eligible. Every player takes it if they have any desire to play in the league. And they offer the test at various times, not just at the combine.
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Yeah, I am not saying you are wrong but I mean if you are not draft eligible than there has to be a rule that team can't sign you as a free agent. Then I think you have players that are 4 years removed from HS, well I think they are automatically draft eligible.

My former HS basketball coach was a college basketball player, got draft by the Dallas Cowboys even though he never played a down of football. He didn't know until he got a letter in the mail, now mind you this was the 60s. I am trying to find his name in the draft right now, he showed me the certificate he died young like 42.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Yeah, I am not saying you are wrong but I mean if you are not draft eligible than there has to be a rule that team can't sign you as a free agent. Then I think you have players that are 4 years removed from HS, well I think they are automatically draft eligible.
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Even if you get signed as an undrafted free agent, you were still draft eligible. I'm not sure, but if you skip the test and aren't draft eligible, I assume that you'd still be eligible to sign as an undrafted free agent, but that would mean potentially sacrificing millions of dollars in order to avoid a test that hardly anyone pays attention to anyway.

My former HS basketball coach was a college basketball player, got draft by the Dallas Cowboys even though he never played a down of football. He didn't know until he got a letter in the mail, now mind you this was the 60s. I am trying to find his name in the draft right now, he showed me the certificate he died young like 42.
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The Wonderlic has been used by the NFL since 70s, and only required since the 90s.
 
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bamawriter said:
Even if you get signed as an undrafted free agent, you were still draft eligible. I'm not sure, but if you skip the test and aren't draft eligible, I assume that you'd still be eligible to sign as an undrafted free agent, but that would mean potentially sacrificing millions of dollars in order to avoid a test that hardly anyone pays attention to anyway.
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Actually if you know you will go high, you could work out a deal with the team before the draft, on purpose not make yourself eligible... team saves a draft pick and you could go where you wanted.

I think now if players don't go top 5 rounds they would most of the time just rather be an unrestricted free agent.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually if you know you will go high, you could work out a deal with the team before the draft, on purpose not make yourself eligible... team saves a draft pick and you could go where you wanted.

I think now if players don't go top 5 rounds they would most of the time just rather be an unrestricted free agent.
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And you would lose a lot of bargaining power, because that team wouldn't be obligated to pay you any certain amount. You would lose money.
 
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Thrasher865 said:
And you would lose a lot of bargaining power, because that team wouldn't be obligated to pay you any certain amount. You would lose money.
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Actually you could make the deal before the draft it could actually be more money if you are a top pick as they then could use the pick for a draft eligible player. It would depend on the circumstance, which brings me to another issue, why not offer a contract after the draft to 3 year players and just sign them as free agents, this way they don't even have to declare and mess up their 4th year if they wanted the choice to go back?

There has to be a rule that a team can't sign a non-eligible 3 year player.
 
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LSU-SIU said:
Actually if you know you will go high, you could work out a deal with the team before the draft, on purpose not make yourself eligible... team saves a draft pick and you could go where you wanted.
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That would totally violate the CBA in several ways. That's never going to happen. If that were possible, there might as well not even be a draft.

I think now if players don't go top 5 rounds they would most of the time just rather be an unrestricted free agent.
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This is true.
 
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bamawriter said:
That would totally violate the CBA in several ways. That's never going to happen. If that were possible, there might as well not even be a draft.
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Yeah, that's there has to be a rule or else the draft would be meaningless.

To be honest, I find the whole pro-college sports scene to be kind of strange in this regard.
 
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Has anyone seen anything about how well the Wonderlic predicts NFL success?

So maybe you don't need to be able to keep dividing numbers by 2 and predict what comes next, but noticing small differences (like Nieman vs Neiman) might be one of those talents that helps you see your opponent telegraphing a move.

If it doesn't, it ought to be dropped.
 
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Crew said:
....two options here.

1, He wasn't trying.
2, He has a learning disability.


Either way he''s getting paid at the end of the month.

It'll be interesting to see if he can hold on to it.
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Some people have testing anxiety when the clock is on 'em.
 
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VolNExile said:
Has anyone seen anything about how well the Wonderlic predicts NFL success?

So maybe you don't need to be able to keep dividing numbers by 2 and predict what comes next, but noticing small differences (like Nieman vs Neiman) might be one of those talents that helps you see your opponent telegraphing a move.

If it doesn't, it ought to be dropped.
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I wonder how Jamarcus Russell did on this test.:question:
 
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phowell23 said:
I like this Wonderlic Test better as it has a timer...

NFL Wonderlic Test | Sample Test - Compare Your Score to NFL Players

I think what happens to some players is they get stuck on a question and instead of just putting something down to skip to the next question they use up a ton of time and end up not answering the rest of the questions.
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36. Time was the issue. Do players get to use calculators? I think I could get to a couple more questions if I had known time was such a problem.
 
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phowell23 said:
I like this Wonderlic Test better as it has a timer...

NFL Wonderlic Test | Sample Test - Compare Your Score to NFL Players

I think what happens to some players is they get stuck on a question and instead of just putting something down to skip to the next question they use up a ton of time and end up not answering the rest of the questions.
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Could be, but since our poor kids get stuck with TCAPS and all from a ridiculously early age these days, it's not as if they haven't heard about how to take a test.

I pretty much despise standardized testing (although I'm good at it), but it's a nasty reality of life, and something that students ought to have come to terms with on some level.

4 out of 50 is way below what you'd get for just answering C to everything, or whatever.
 
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