Most overrated college coaches

#26
#26
I hate to say this, but a lot of the Tennessee teams that lost to Spurrier had more talent than Florida. Spurrier was a flat out better coach than Fulmer.
 
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#27
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At this point in his career, I think one might consider Bob Stoops overrated.

Mark Richt. Brian Kelly. Kevin Sumlin.
 
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#28
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1. Lou Holtz - was pulling top 5 recruiting classes every year at ND and came away with 1 NC. Sucked at South Carolina

2. Bob Stoops - was very solid early on but has struggled to live up to his media name, Big Game Bob.

3. Les Miles - I know he has 2 NC BUT the first was all Saban talent. He has continued to under achieve with the amount of talent he has at LSU. His crazy trick play decisions paid off early but as of late they haven't and he just looks like a guy making bad decisions. Has a top 5 D each year and does nothing with it
 
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Who considers Weis any good?

Still getting checks from ND --- they thought he was worth a 10 year deal after 1 season with Willinghams players - So you as a Pats fan didnt think he was any good when he won the rings there as the OC ?
 
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#31
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For me it is Gus Malzann. The guy runs a glorified high school offense. Now that he doesn't have Cam creating offense along with defenses knowing to be disciplined and not fall for the silly types of misdirection, they just don't have much. They are terrible and he is still viewed as being some offensive Guru.

He never had Cam as a HC
 
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Still getting checks from ND --- they thought he was worth a 10 year deal after 1 season with Willinghams players - So you as a Pats fan didnt think he was any good when he won the rings there as the OC ?

Actually, I'm pretty sure he got the 10 year deal after just almost beating USC.
 
#33
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You seriously think Spurrier at Florida was overrated? For real?

Yup... overrated yes... he was good record wise... don't think that crap would have worked in today's game. The passing equivalent of Les Miles in some ways. I think he did good at SC with what he had to work with.

It's just an opinion... overrated... I didn't say he was an idiot or something.
 
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Still getting checks from ND --- they thought he was worth a 10 year deal after 1 season with Willinghams players - So you as a Pats fan didnt think he was any good when he won the rings there as the OC ?

Big difference between being an offensive coordinator and a head coach. He was very good as OC at New England. He was a terrible head coach.
 
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#36
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Yup... overrated yes... he was good record wise... don't think that crap would have worked in today's game. The passing equivalent of Les Miles in some ways. I think he did good at SC with what he had to work with.

It's just an opinion... overrated... I didn't say he was an idiot or something.

So because something wouldn't work today, he was overrated back when it did work?

That makes no sense.
 
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So because something wouldn't work today, he was overrated back when it did work?

That makes no sense.

Sure it does, its an opinion. I mean back in the 90s people were calling him an offensive genius, he was a solid coach, and it isn't easy winning but I still say he was overrated for what he did in Florida. I look at what he did in SC as a bigger accomplishment. It's not like I am saying he was trash.

Oh man, I forgot Gary Crowton (OC) for LSU... was called the Wizard... on his 5th job since being canned at LSU and has been canned a few more places... Maryland if I remember correctly let him go after a few games. Not a HC but man, the BYU fans told LSU fans what was coming.
 
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#41
#41
I think Bob Stoops is overrated..he beats the teams he has more talent than but rarely beats anyone with equal or more talent
 
#42
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Sure it does, its an opinion. I mean back in the 90s people were calling him an offensive genius, he was a solid coach, and it isn't easy winning but I still say he was overrated for what he did in Florida. I look at what he did in SC as a bigger accomplishment. It's not like I am saying he was trash.

Oh man, I forgot Gary Crowton (OC) for LSU... was called the Wizard... on his 5th job since being canned at LSU and has been canned a few more places... Maryland if I remember correctly let him go after a few games. Not a HC but man, the BYU fans told LSU fans what was coming.

Labeling something an opinion doesn't make it automatically make sense. He was an offensive genius in the 90s, evidenced by the national title and 6 SEC Championships and 7 SEC East Division winners, so I'm not getting your criticism. Seems to me if he's overrated, you have a very long list of overrated coaches.
 
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#43
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Labeling something an opinion doesn't make it automatically make sense. He was an offensive genius in the 90s, evidenced by the national title and 6 SEC Championships and 7 SEC East Division winners, so I'm not getting your criticism. Seems to me if he's overrated, you have a very long list of overrated coaches.

I never once said it automatically makes sense. I think he was overrated at Florida, I never said he was dog crap.... it's an opinion, not a fact.

It's okay to disagree.
 
#44
#44
My pick is Bobby Bowden: He and Florida State joined the patsy ACC and were in the national title hunt almost every year without breaking a sweat. Easy schedule. He played Miami most years, if not every year, and often lost. FSU hardly ever had more than 3 tough games.

Same for Michigan under Schembechler. The Big 10 was always hugely overrated. Two school conference (with OSU). Everyone else was somewhere between mediocre and bad with the exception of Michigan State occasionally. His lousy Rose Bowl record is telling. Good pick.

Weis is also a good pick--he was a disaster.

As for Spurrier, think about this: he never had a QB anywhere near as physically gifted as Manning or Shuler or even Tee Martin. Most of his QBs were physically more like C. Clausen--if that--and yet hugely productive. Wuerffel was an average athlete--if that--who short-armed the ball, and yet he was one of the most prolific passers in college history. All Spurrier.
 
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#46
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Big difference between being an offensive coordinator and a head coach. He was very good as OC at New England. He was a terrible head coach.

Let's not forget the Patriots were videotaping the opposition's practices. I'm sure that made that entire staff and team look better than what they were.
 
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Let's not forget the Patriots were videotaping the opposition's practices. I'm sure that made that entire staff and team look better than what they were.

Not practices, but opponents signals during games, which was completely legal.
 
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#50
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No way someone could say Spurrier is overrated and be right. Didn't USCjr win 11 games 3 straight years? That's ridiculous for them. He's one of the greatest ever.
 

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