‘23 MS WR Ayden Williams

[DaddyChad]

I also said he was faster before added weight (Jennings).
And perhaps this kid is so good it doesn't matter. Regardless of that....stop twisting my words. As in stop responding to anything I write.
I don't know you. I don't care to know anything about you...

Go ahead be happy if we get him.
I don't care about your opinion. You respond to my messages and they're never directed towards you.

So you don’t want your opinions challenged? Got ya. I’ll respond to whatever I like thanks, free country. You can always use the block feature if you can’t handle it. You had an opinion people disagreed with it and you can’t handle it.

 

[wrangler]

Lol.

The defense has to get the 3rd down stops it they want to earn a breather. That is true for every defense.

No one is moving to a less efficient offense for a measly extra 40 seconds of rest on 3 n out possessions (of which we should expect fewer of in a better, more optimal offense).

It would be worse than that. If we're rotating receivers in and out, the other team will be subbing, too. And they'll take as much time as they can, further delaying our quick strike offense.

 

[Devo182]

It would be worse than that. If we're rotating receivers in and out, the other team will be subbing, too. And they'll take as much time as they can, further delaying our quick strike offense.

They really can't take much more time.

Only 2 plays are in question...2nd and 3rd down. We either snap at ~30 seconds or a slow time, say at ~10 seconds.

 

[wrangler]

They really can't take much more time.

Only 2 plays are in question...2nd and 3rd down. We either snap at ~30 seconds or a slow time, say at ~10 seconds.

Sure they can. If we don't sub on offense, they can't sub on defense, and take the time that goes with that.

 

[UpstateVol613]

 

[utvolmaniac]

 

[Orange_Crush]

4-5 play TD drives where the defense is only off the field 1-2 minutes at a time isn’t helping the defense any though. Our defense played alright for the first half of a lot of games last year. They just got gassed as the games and season progressed

Not stopping the other team on 3rd downs got our defense gassed. Also, dozens of transfers out and a light roster helped get them gasses as well.

It makes zero sense to hope for slower, longer drives consisting of more plays, above and beyond hoping for quick touchdowns. The faster you go, the more you make the defense react and the more chance you catch them out of position. The more plays in a drive, the more opportunities for your offense to make mistakes and get off the field.

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

Not stopping the other team on 3rd downs got our defense gassed. Also, dozens of transfers out and a light roster helped get them gasses as well.

It makes zero sense to hope for slower, longer drives consisting of more plays, above and beyond hoping for quick touchdowns. The faster you go, the more you make the defense react and the more chance you catch them out of position. The more plays in a drive, the more opportunities for your offense to make mistakes and get off the field.

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

 

[MarcoVol]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

Yes we should slow our offense down. That strategy was wildly effective under Pruitt.

 

[volbeast33]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

He moved us into field goal range in 16 secs against kentucky….it looked like we just missed on some plays….who are all of these teams that failed when going warp speed?

 

[sjt18]

Not stopping the other team on 3rd downs got our defense gassed. Also, dozens of transfers out and a light roster helped get them gasses as well.

It makes zero sense to hope for slower, longer drives consisting of more plays, above and beyond hoping for quick touchdowns. The faster you go, the more you make the defense react and the more chance you catch them out of position. The more plays in a drive, the more opportunities for your offense to make mistakes and get off the field.

Great post.

Also, scoring points quickly forces lots of teams out of their game plan. That was big between Fulmer and Spurrier. Spurrier scored lots of points as fast as he could. Fulmer wanted to "pound the rock". When UF got up 2+ scores, UT was taken out of its gameplan and comfort zone.

UT did that to USCe last year and really did it to Mizzou.

If you are aggressive on O then you control the style of play and tempo of the game. You dictate to the opponent rather than reacting to them. The D just has to get stops. They can allow points. They don't have to lead the SEC in scoring D. But I think they averaged 9+ plays per drive last fall. They can't do that. They have to get off the field even if they take risks and give up big plays.

 

[sjt18]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year.

You mean instead of Purdue having WR's running wide open and not being able to get to the QB?

The O forced Purdue to become one dimensional. It isn't their fault that the D made Purdue's QB look like Bryce Young.

Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to.

And there is an element of that in the O. They showed it many times last year. The D still didn't hold up their end. Consider the USCe game. The O pushed out to a big lead. They slowed the tempo to give the D rest. The D almost let USCe get back into the game.

Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT.

So the failure to go for FG's is why 4 or 5 UT players couldn't tackle Purdue's TE or push him out of bounds? The D was set up with a fairly short clock and a 7 point lead. They couldn't hold and THAT is why it got to OT.

No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

There was a time when no coach had won the SEC by focusing on the forward pass... then they did. No coach had won the SEC with a wishbone O... then they did. No coach had won it with the Pro I... then they did. No coach had won it with the "fun and gun"... then Spurrier did. No one had won it with the "junk" spread option O... then Meyer did.

Even Saban saw the writing on the wall and went from a defense focused strategy with ball control O to a high production spread O.

Heupel just did an AMAZING thing with UT's O. He put their point production in the same range as Bama's with much less talent. The D just needs to get stops.

 

[Orange_Crush]

We went from a 3 win season in 2020, with staff/scheme turnover, a massive and catastrophic outgoing transfer flood, with NCAA investigations and the lightest roster in NCAAF to a winning season, offensive records, etc...

Volnation: "This ****'ll never work! We gotta be more like the guy that just won us three games in a season. Why can't we just go back in time and let the game pass us by some more?"

 

[Orange_Crush]

There was a time when no coach had won the SEC by focusing on the forward pass... then they did. No coach had won the SEC with a wishbone O... then they did. No coach had won it with the Pro I... then they did. No coach had won it with the "fun and gun"... then Spurrier did. No one had won it with the "junk" spread option O... then Meyer did.

Even Saban saw the writing on the wall and went from a defense focused strategy with ball control O to a high production spread O.

Heupel just did an AMAZING thing with UT's O. He put their point production in the same range as Bama's with much less talent. The D just needs to get stops.

My thoughts exactly. (Which obviously means you are correct on every point.)

 

[VolFreakJosh]

We were two bad calls away from winning 9 games last year but yeah, let’s blame Heupel for not slowing down the offense.

 

[csprig9]

We were two bad calls away from winning 9 games last year but yeah, let’s blame Heupel for not slowing down the offense.

People forget how bad we were 2,3,4 years ago
Last year was fun
This year is gonna be even more fun

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

We jumped like 90 spots on offense last year. Warp speed is what Heupel knows and it works. The defense has to improve and I believe it will this year. A handful of defensive improvements last year and we win 10 games.

 

[thunder5]

We jumped like 90 spots on offense last year. Warp speed is what Heupel knows and it works. The defense has to improve and I believe it will this year. A handful of defensive improvements last year and we win 10 games.

Agreed...I think knowledge of the system will help but what we REALLY need is depth...you've got to have a competent 2nd team D to keep pace with our O...you can't have 1st teamers consistently playing 80-90 or more snaps a game

 

[Devo182]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

It's about per possession efficiency.

"Slowing it down" only ever matters is if you're going for the last possesion. Literally the last 5-10% of the game lol.

Defenses earn their own breaks. Do the math. The difference between warp speed and a slow offense's 3-and-out is a whopping ~30-40 seconds lol. Meanwhile the warp speed's efficiency advantage means they'll have them less often...ergo Heupel's vs Chaney-Pruitt's offense.

 

[BelieveTheHeup93]

It's about per possession efficiency.

"Slowing it down" only ever matters is if you're going for the last possesion. Literally the last 5-10% of the game lol.

Defenses earn their own breaks. Do the math. The difference between warp speed and a slow offense's 3-and-out is a whopping ~30-40 seconds lol. Meanwhile the warp speed's efficiency advantage means they'll have them less often...ergo Heupel's vs Chaney-Pruitt's offense.

A 30-40 second difference adds up over 4 quarters. Being able to have longer drives also keeps the clock running and shortens the opposing team’s possessions. There’s no reason why once we have a QB like Nico and better line along with an elite RB that we shouldn’t be able to run a more balanced offense similar to what Clemson ran with Watson or Ohio State is running now

 

[sjt18]

A 30-40 second difference adds up over 4 quarters. Being able to have longer drives also keeps the clock running and shortens the opposing team’s possessions. There’s no reason why once we have a QB like Nico and better line along with an elite RB that we shouldn’t be able to run a more balanced offense similar to what Clemson ran with Watson or Ohio State is running now

Why on EARTH would you squander ANY advantage? UT's tempo had Bama frazzled. In what universe would you even consider giving that up?

Bottom line is the D has to get stops and do better on 3rd down. That's really all there is. Do that and add some depth... and win lots of games by staying on the attack.

 

[Devo182]

A 30-40 second difference adds up over 4 quarters. Being able to have longer drives also keeps the clock running and shortens the opposing team’s possessions. There’s no reason why once we have a QB like Nico and better line along with an elite RB that we shouldn’t be able to run a more balanced offense similar to what Clemson ran with Watson or Ohio State is running now

So let's say you average 12 possessions...quite a few. And have one of the bottom-30 worst 3-and-out percentages in the country of 25%. So that's 4 possessions at a whopping 35 seconds each...or a grand freakin total difference of 2m and 20 seconds

If your defense, over a game of 3-4 hours, is affected by a +/- of about 2 minutes of extra time...idk what to say. Smh

 

[Vol8188]

Well the idea of constantly going warp speed and looking for the big play rather than being able to get 3-4 yards at a time cost us the Purdue game last year. Good offenses are able to go fast tempo, but great ones are able to dictate the tempo of the game and are able to slow it down a little when they want to. Had Heupel been able to dial up a few plays to get us into field goal range rather than taking shots at the end zone at the end of regulation it never goes into OT. No coach has been able to win the SEC by going warp speed constantly on offense. You have to be able to slow drives down some to give your defense a break

Gus M literally wrote the book on going warp speed all the time. He won the sec as a head coach and a national title as an oc going warp speed

 

[Adam Sandler]

If we survive the ole miss visit and get an official this fall, I like our chances.

 

[Maxwell865]

Committing August 21st