Muschamp to Auburn as DC

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bamawriter said:
Bama put up 117 points in three games against Muschamp's defense. No one is Tuscaloosa is scared of him.
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No you didn't. You put up 186 in 8 games. 44 in 3 yrs at LSU, 25 in 2 yrs at Auburn, 80 when he was at UF and 37 in the championship game when he was at Texas.

Your numbers equate to 39 ppg, mine (the right ones) equate to 23 ppg. Since Saban took over (4 games not 3) it's 31 ppg but only 2 of those was Boom strictly a DC. The numbers are greatly in his favor when he's actually calling the defense.
 
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jasonvol18 said:
Exactly..Jeremy Johnson is a much better QB than Marshall, especially as a passer. Honestly not sure why Marshall started over him
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While JJ can run, Marshall does it much better and that's the key to their offense. That said, JJ is a better QB.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
No you didn't. You put up 186 in 8 games. 44 in 3 yrs at LSU, 25 in 2 yrs at Auburn, 80 when he was at UF and 37 in the championship game when he was at Texas.

Your numbers equate to 39 ppg, mine (the right ones) equate to 23 ppg. Since Saban took over (4 games not 3) it's 31 ppg but only 2 of those was Boom strictly a DC. The numbers are greatly in his favor when he's actually calling the defense.
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Saban's players vs Boom coached defenses: 117 points in 3 games. Try to split whatever hair you want, it won't actually change anything.

And i'm willing to bet that he puts up, statistically, the worst defenses of his career while at AU. That doesn't mean it won't be better than Johnson's bunch, but every DC at AU since Tuberville left has fielded the worst defenses of his career.
 
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bamawriter said:
Saban's players vs Boom coached defenses: 117 points in 3 games. Try to split whatever hair you want, it won't actually change anything.

And i'm willing to bet that he puts up, statistically, the worst defenses of his career while at AU. That doesn't mean it won't be better than Johnson's bunch, but every DC at AU since Tuberville left has fielded the worst defenses of his career.
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No they didn't. Saban has faced Muschamp 4x. You keep leaving off 2007 when Bama put up 10. I realize you think Saban and Bama football started in 2008. It's 127 pts in 4 games, not 117 in 3.

And Boom didn't coach defense at UF he was a HC. When he strictly called the defense his defense gave up 47 in 2 games.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
No they didn't. Saban has faced Muschamp 4x. You keep leaving off 2007 when Bama out up 10. I realize you think Saban and Bama football started in 2008. It's 127 pts in 4 games, not 117 in 3.

And Boom didn't coach defense at UF he was a HC. When he strictly called the defense his defense gave up 47 in 2 games.
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Your hopes and dreams are just darling.
 
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The last thing I want is for Auburn to have a defense. They will be an interesting team to watch next year. I'm sure Bama fans are not happy.
 
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bamawriter said:
Your hopes and dreams are just darling.
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Yet you don't dispute that your "facts" were wrong. Bammers like to pick and choose what stats they use. You also fail to acknowledge the championship game was as much as Texas's ineptitude on offense as Bama's offense running roughshod over Texas's defense. Bama scored 17 pts on a total of 50 yards off of 2 TO's. Hard to prevent a team from scoring when their longest field possession was 27 yards.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Yet you don't dispute that your "facts" were wrong. Bammers like to pick and choose what stats they use. You also fail to acknowledge the championship game was as much as Texas's ineptitude on offense as Bama's offense running roughshod over Texas's defense. Bama scored 17 pts on a total of 50 yards off of 2 TO's. Hard to prevent a team from scoring when their longest field possession was 27 yards.
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Tell me what is wrong with these facts: in the last three games, games in which Saban was coaching at least one full recruiting class, Saban's teams have scored 117 on Muschamp coached teams.

And the absolutely hilarious thing is that you're trying to discount his involvement in the UF defense, when the reality is that UF's defenses were more than solid under Muschamp. But acknowledging that hurts your case, so we'll just play pretend and say he just stood there staring off into space while his team was on D the last four years.
 
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bamawriter said:
Tell me what is wrong with these facts: in the last three games, games in which Saban was coaching at least one full recruiting class, Saban's teams have scored 117 on Muschamp coached teams.

And the absolutely hilarious thing is that you're trying to discount his involvement in the UF defense, when the reality is that UF's defenses were more than solid under Muschamp. But acknowledging that hurts your case, so we'll just play pretend and say he just stood there staring off into space while his team was on D the last four years.
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Now you've changed your parameters to the times he faced a Saban team with a full recruiting class, instead of a Saban team.

I acknowledge they had a solid defense under Muschamp, in fact better than Saban's. UF was the only SEC team to finish top 10 nationally in defense the last 4 yrs. What you fail to acknowledge is the incompetence of Muschamp's offense. Bama held the ball for twice as long and ran 1.5x more play because UF's offense couldn't stay on the field. If you think you'll continue to "avg 39" on his defenses you're clueless.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Now you've changed your parameters to the times he faced a Saban team with a full recruiting class, instead of a Saban team.

I acknowledge they had a solid defense under Muschamp, in fact better than Saban's. UF was the only SEC team to finish top 10 nationally in defense the last 4 yrs. What you fail to acknowledge is the incompetence of Muschamp's offense. Bama held the ball for twice as long and ran 1.5x more play because UF's offense couldn't stay on the field. If you think you'll continue to "avg 39" on his defenses you're clueless.
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Why are you defending Muschamp so much?
 
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JohnnyD1024 said:
Why are you defending Muschamp so much?
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Because he's a hell of a DC and to say this hire won't potentially affect the pendulum swing in the state of AL and the SEC west is foolish. Initially, I simply pointed out his numbers were wrong. That's not a defense, it's correcting facts. Just so happens the facts better "defend" Muschamp.

Plus bamawriter brings nothing to the board except being a condescending asswipe like most Bammers. As evident by his initial post in this thread. Why do you care so much?
 
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JohnnyD1024 said:
I think he's a good defensive coach too but I'm not gonna sit a defend a rival coach to another rival's fan.
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How is pointing out factual information defending someone? Stats are hard numbers that are easy to find, it just so happened Bamawriter chose which numbers he picked to use.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
How is pointing out factual information defending someone? Stats are hard numbers that are easy to find, it just so happened Bamawriter chose which numbers he picked to use.
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Here's another number I'm "choosing to pick to use": 672.

672 is the most yardarge ever given up by a University of Florida defense. Guess which team put up that gaudy total, and guess which defensive mastermind coached the Gators in that debacle.
 
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bamawriter said:
Here's another number I'm "choosing to pick to use": 672.

672 is the most yardarge ever given up by a University of Florida defense. Guess which team put up that gaudy total, and guess which defensive mastermind coached the Gators in that debacle.
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You use "defensive mastermind" sarcastically. To act like he's not a good to great DC is beyond idiotic. I've had my fair share of stupid today so I'm done.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
You use "defensive mastermind" sarcastically. To act like he's not a good to great DC is beyond idiotic. I've had my fair share of stupid today so I'm done.
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I think he's a very good DC. But I scoff at the suggestion that Saban and Bama should be quaking at the thought of taking him on. If anyone has him figured out, it's Bama.
 
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bowlinggreenvol said:
Because he's a hell of a DC and to say this hire won't potentially affect the pendulum swing in the state of AL and the SEC west is foolish. Initially, I simply pointed out his numbers were wrong. That's not a defense, it's correcting facts. Just so happens the facts better "defend" Muschamp.

Plus bamawriter brings nothing to the board except being a condescending asswipe like most Bammers. As evident by his initial post in this thread. Why do you care so much?
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Most Barners thought that Ellis Johnson was going to bring a defense that would do this as well..............we know how that worked out. Muschamp is a heck of a D coordinator, but anyone coaching a defense of a Malzhan team will have problems.
 
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BearCat204 said:
Most Barners thought that Ellis Johnson was going to bring a defense that would do this as well..............we know how that worked out. Muschamp is a heck of a D coordinator, but anyone coaching a defense of a Malzhan team will have problems.
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As Muschamp said, Auburn's up tempo offense is a bit of a myth. They averaged 2 more plays per game than UF. As anemic as UF's offense was. Not sure if that means other teams tried to run clock vs AU and limit their possessions or what. But considering how UF's offense couldn't stay on the field that's an interesting stat.
 
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