My Heisman Theory.......

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Bryan1 said:
and maybe he very well should have been. I dont exactly know what his numbers were,but it seems the tophy is BS anyway!
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The thing about Harrell though, is that every Texas Tech and Hawaii QB is putting up huge numbers. The thing about Bradford/McCoy/Tebow is that no one has done better in a similar offense than them.
 
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DOCTORLOOMIS said:
The trophy is supposed to go to the nations best football PLAYER. Lets keep that in mind......
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Correction: The Heisman is awarded to the nation's most outstanding college football player. That doesn't necessarily mean the player has the best stats, is on a championship team, or anything else. The Heisman winner is simply the most outstanding.

But how do you define "most oustanding"? Does "most outstanding" always = "best"? Or is it simply the one who stands out the most? And yes, that's a judgment call and up for different interpretations. Personally, I think that in almost any other year, any one of these three would have won the Heisman with this year's performance. All 3 were outstanding.
 
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#31
I personally thought it was Colt's trophy. Tebow 2nd, Bradford a close 3rd. Throw numbers aside, Colt was the MVP of any team in any conf.
 
#33
#33
I think Tebow deserved the award hands down, but I am prolly more upset for Colt McCoy. I mean how bad does that suck, you are leading in the Heisman voting until championship saturday, a day you got screwed out of playing on in the first place. It really sucks that the guy who won is the same guy that QB'ed the team that screwed him.
 
#34
#34
bigtime said:
I think Tebow deserved the award hands down, but I am prolly more upset for Colt McCoy. I mean how bad does that suck, you are leading in the Heisman voting until championship saturday, a day you got screwed out of playing on in the first place. It really sucks that the guy who won is the same guy that QB'ed the team that screwed him.
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Colt's chance disappeared when he didn't handle Texas Tech the way Bradford did. Please remember it was a THREE way tie.:rock:
 
#35
#35
tsooner said:
Colt's chance disappeared when he didn't handle Texas Tech the way Bradford did. Please remember it was a THREE way tie.:rock:
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Everyone recalls. It was the only way OU weaseled into the conference championship game.
 
#36
#36
If Colt had been from say Penn St., Tebow wins the heisman. Tebow would have gotten more 2nd place votes instead of 3rd. Bradford and Colt being from the same conf. cost Tebow the trophy. It will be easier to tell after Jan.8.
I predicted Bradford would get the trophy, Tebow the NC. Im already half right.
 
#37
#37
Until they hunt down Woodson, slap his face and take the '97 trophy up to Peyton, I will not watch the ceremony or hold any regard for the recipient.
 
#38
#38
Based on the stats I would have given it to McCoy. He rushed and passed for more yards than Tebow. Having said that Tebow deserved it too because he played against toughtr Ds than McCoy or Bradford. Bradford didn't deserve to win it IMHO which doesn't count for much.
 
#40
#40
tsooner said:
The beat down Tech got was the result of any weaseling.
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The Big 12 system needs some adjusting, You can't argue with Oklahoma. When U have a 3 way tie, A beat B, B beat C, C beat A. Texas is pissed, Oklahoma is happy. Who cares here? Don't think either one would or will beat FL.
Ole Miss over TT, mark it down.
 
#45
#45
tsooner said:
You really don't understand three way tie do you? :banghead2:
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Are you kidding me. Your WAC style defenses conference has the stupidest rules in history for determining the tiebreaker. Call it whatever you want, but I'll stick with weaseling.

The day you present something reasonable that I don't understand, I'll quit posting.
 
#46
#46
Doesn't the SEC have the same rules?

And I'm sure there would be a better way to break the tie, but I'm not sure what it would be.
 
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#48
tvolsfan said:
Doesn't the SEC have the same rules?

And I'm sure there would be a better way to break the tie, but I'm not sure what it would be.
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No. We use BCS to determine top 2, then head to head. Big 12 will do it that way henceforth.
 
#49
#49
BigPapaVol said:
No. We use BCS to determine top 2, then head to head. Big 12 will do it that way henceforth.
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But is that really a lot better? Suppose TT loses a closer game instead of vomiting all over themselves on the national stage? Then how can you really make it a two team discussion?

I will say I don't like the idea of using points scored and points against to determine the tie breaker.
 
#50
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tvolsfan said:
But is that really a lot better? Suppose TT loses a closer game instead of vomiting all over themselves on the national stage? Then how can you really make it a two team discussion?

I will say I don't like the idea of using points scored and points against to determine the tie breaker.
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I've argued both sides and there is no perfect solution, but the BCS standings is a ridiculous arbiter. I understand using it to narrow the argument down, but after narrowed, the head to head being ignored is senseless.
 
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