My MAIN concern....and what I don't understand

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I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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Ferguson and Dobbs will develop. You would think they will go after a QB next year.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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Probably because the Freshmen are just Freshmen not that they don't have the potential to be very good in the future. JMO
 
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I know I'm not there in practice - but it seems like there are 25 dual threat qb's at mid-major, smaller schools who "seem" to have more talent than what we are seeing on the field. Granted Gators and Duck's D's would make most look horrid - but we've also had games against bad teams and they didn't really pass they eye test there either. Surely - and no I'm not calling you Shirley, there is a big time read option QB out there who would love to start next year.

I'm not saying it's not Ferguson or Dobbs - but if they are IT, then shouldn't one of them be in there pretty soon?
 
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Ferguson will be the guy. They will recruit a QB next year.

Next year, it will be Worley, Ferguson, Dobbs.

2015, it will be Ferguson, Dobbs, FR QB

2016, Ferguson, FR QB, Dobbs

I'm beginning to think that Ferguson will start for 3 years. And yes, I know he hasn't taken a snap. It's just a feeling I have.
 
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This is my question also... why are we running a zone read offense, with a pro style qb, why did he recruit a two pro style QB's.. and why are we not recruiting a dual threat? He recruited munchie, and later in the season started him.. im not understanding what his way of thinking is..
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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Think Dobbs and Ferg are great prospects, but their not done yet....give em some time in the oven.....you'll like what's cooking.
 
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Why is it at UT we always need "time to develop freshman" (in most cases) whereas in other schools their freshman not only play, but contribute. (UF had a true freshman playing CB yesterday). There have not been that many here - E Berry comes to mind. Why does it seem that our freshman, in most instances, play like freshman?
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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Its not that the freshman QBs aren't promising,they are a few months out of high school and have not learned the system yet. I believe a freshman can learn a different position quicker other than the QB position. Ferguson or Dobbs is our future QB and Coach Jones is making sure they are ready to accept the challenge before he puts them in. There is more problems other than the QB play.
 
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OP, those mid major coaches are putting their average qb's in a position to win. Our coaches are not doing the same.
 
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truevol8 said:
Its not that the freshman QBs aren't promising,they are a few months out of high school and have not learned the system yet. I believe a freshman can learn a different position quicker other than the QB position. Ferguson or Dobbs is our future QB and Coach Jones is making sure they are ready to accept the challenge before he puts them in. There is more problems other than the QB play.
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They say dobbs has the playbook down..
 
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OWB said:
I don't see Dobbs sticking around if that's the case.
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I think he will. Very few schools offer his major. That was one of the reasons we got him. I'm not sure he will contribute, but if he progresses, he could be a solid backup. I just think Riley is a incredible competitor that you won't be able to keep down long.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Ferguson will be the guy. They will recruit a QB next year.

Next year, it will be Worley, Ferguson, Dobbs.

2015, it will be Ferguson, Dobbs, FR QB

2016, Ferguson, FR QB, Dobbs

I'm beginning to think that Ferguson will start for 3 years. And yes, I know he hasn't taken a snap. It's just a feeling I have.
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Dobbs and Ferg will not both stay
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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Stop and think just a moment, these freshmen get to school in June or July and have about 8-10 weeks at the most to get into college physical shape and try and learn the playbook and execute those plays in practice with at least 65% accuracy, THEY NEED MORE TIME to learn the playbook and execution of it. The unknown factor here is how much actual development time our staff has put in with them. Ferg is the best passer on campus. I would look for him to play in the next game. Its not that our freshmen aren't any good, but when you have a junior and RS freshman at QB, THEY should be the more solid performers and demand most of the attention from the coaches. Our problem is those guys aren't developed!
 
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aredfox28 said:
They say dobbs has the playbook down..
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That's why he maybe red shirted and with the class we got coming in next year he will be ready to lead this team where we need to go. We will take our lumps again this year but you will see a lot of progress starting next year and by year 3 under CBJ we will be beating the top tier teams of the SEC once again. I have the confidence this will happen. Lets be patient Vol Fans.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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OK I agree with your concern (with some reservation). The question is who should we be going after? I'm sure CBJ has a good read on the QBs in 2014. The other question that should be asked is how do you know that one of the freshman QBs is not the answer? Maybe they just need a little time to develop!

My main point here is I trust CBJ and staff are just as concerned and aware of the issue as you are. They simply choose not to make their plan public which I think you know why.

CBJ strikes me as the kind of coach who knows what he is doing! This is not his first rodeo in building CHAMPIONSHIP programs. Let him install his system with the players he needs and in about three to four years we will see who is correct, me or all of the doom and gloom vol fans (not saying you are) that post on here constantly!

The glass is half full and RISING TO THE TOP! GO VOLS!!!
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TNHopeful505 said:
Ferguson will be the guy. They will recruit a QB next year.

Next year, it will be Worley, Ferguson, Dobbs.

2015, it will be Ferguson, Dobbs, FR QB

2016, Ferguson, FR QB, Dobbs

I'm beginning to think that Ferguson will start for 3 years. And yes, I know he hasn't taken a snap. It's just a feeling I have.
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So let's go off of a few weeks of practice and assume Dobbs will never produce. Watch the film. Dobbs is the rawest quarterback on the roster, but he also has the greatest potential. Ferguson will be ready before Dobbs, but Dobbs will be better in the long run.

Jmo based off the film from Hudl. Entire game films, not five minute highlights.
 
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I just think if we are gonna run a zone read offense, then we need a dual threat qb, none of the 4 we have are gonna cut it in this system.
 
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My question is why haven't they played AT ALL? (unless the plan is to redshirt them both). I am tired of seeing the excuse of "freshmen have only been here 8-10 weeks". I can give a LOT of examples of freshmen QBs over the years that have helped their team win. What I have watched for 4 weeks has been painful....

I believe in CBJ too....I am a huge fan. This just causes me to scratch my head a bit.
 
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utvols74 said:
Why is it at UT we always need "time to develop freshman" (in most cases) whereas in other schools their freshman not only play, but contribute. (UF had a true freshman playing CB yesterday). There have not been that many here - E Berry comes to mind. Why does it seem that our freshman, in most instances, play like freshman?
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We had a true freshmen playing CB, nickel back, and WR. Not sure why that is different. We have started a true freshman at QB and OT (Ainge and Munoz). It is the exception and not the rule. You won't build a successful SEC program by playing freshmen.
 
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TN should take at least one 4 or 5 star QB in each recruiting cycle. Peterman will probably slip to 3rd on depth chart and transfer next year. Loser of Fergie-Dobbs competition will transfer next year or two as well. That is why you take at least 1 QB each year. Also, some gifted athletic QBs end up being DB, etc. I don't see Dobbs, Fergie or Peterman in that role though.
 
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ericberry4heisman said:
So let's go off of a few weeks of practice and assume Dobbs will never produce. Watch the film. Dobbs is the rawest quarterback on the roster, but he also has the greatest potential. Ferguson will be ready before Dobbs, but Dobbs will be better in the long run.

Jmo based off the film from Hudl. Entire game films, not five minute highlights.
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Whatever you say, McShay.
 
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