My MAIN concern....and what I don't understand

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TNHopeful505 said:
Ferguson will be the guy. They will recruit a QB next year.

Next year, it will be Worley, Ferguson, Dobbs.

2015, it will be Ferguson, Dobbs, FR QB

2016, Ferguson, FR QB, Dobbs

I'm beginning to think that Ferguson will start for 3 years. And yes, I know he hasn't taken a snap. It's just a feeling I have.
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I don't think so if Ferguson is the guy or is any good he would have gotten his shot Saturday. He made the trip.

I believe Dobbs will be the Guy Next year because one he is benefiting from red shirting. He will get stronger and have time to dedicate to studying the play book and practice

Second he is saving a year of eligibility for a reason CBJ knew this wouldn't be a great season he is preserving his eligibility. He want Dobbs to play with Hurd and the rest of the 2014 class

Dobbs has Dual threat ability third reason while Ferguson is mobile he's not a threat to run and that is what makes this type of offense work. (ie TAMU, Oregon, Clemson)

Also don't forget that Dobbs is an engineering student while it's only his freshman year UT has a very rigorous Freshman engineering academy called ENGAGE. Butch probably is having him work academics right now and adjusting to that.
 
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Ferguson AND Dobbs will be very good Qbs with time. One of them will probably transfer though. Worley isn't horrid either. 90% is WRs are young and need to develope.
 
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GBOVOLS said:
Laugh all you want but remember CBJ didn't recruit Ferguson. He benefit more by red shirting Dobbs than by trying to get instant gratification. Dobbs has a higher ceiling.
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You know this how? Are you the quarterback whisperer? Did you talk to Butch? Oh, that's right, you don't know. Dobbs athleticism is so overrated by some on here. He's not a 4.5 guy at all.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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I really think Riley Ferguson is going to be the next big name QB in college football. I think the staff is taking there time with him because they know how good he can be. There going to keep the redshirt on this young man so we can have him for 4yrs. That's just my opinion what does everybody else think?
 
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I think we don't have a quarterback and nobody knows who the answer will be. It might be one of the freshmen or it might be someone in high school. We don't know.
 
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i don't care what they do as long as we finish 7-6 with a bowl. any thing less and they all need to be reevaluated as coaches.
 
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TNHopeful505 said:
Ferguson will be the guy. They will recruit a QB next year.

Next year, it will be Worley, Ferguson, Dobbs.

2015, it will be Ferguson, Dobbs, FR QB

2016, Ferguson, FR QB, Dobbs

I'm beginning to think that Ferguson will start for 3 years. And yes, I know he hasn't taken a snap. It's just a feeling I have.
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You've gone off the reservation, chief. Why the negativity on Dobbs? By all accounts, while Ferg has had more practice hype, Dobbs looked much better in the open practice in front of live competition. And I think the tale of the practice warrior turned game-time disaster is all too familiar after yesterday.

Look, I'm honestly not biased on the freshman QB competition at all. I want them both to be very successful here and I want the one that will give us the best chance to win to start. But it became pretty obvious on Saturday what Coach has in mind. Dobbs is gonna get the 'shirt this year. It's probably a good thing since it will give him time to develop, but what it also tells us is that Dobbs is CBJ's QB of the future. Remember, Dobbs is CBJ's first real QB recruit as a coach here, and more importantly, he was recruited here specifically to run our new offense. He's the prototypical Jones/Bajakian QB: intelligent, accurate, and while not a pure dual threat, has the ability to extend plays with his legs when necessary. By all accounts, he's excelled at running the scout team offense and has given the 1st team defense fits while doing so. It's very difficult to picture a future incarnation of UT's offense without Dobbs at the helm.

Ferg, on the other hand, will absolutely see the field this year, possibly as soon as next week. If he's as good as advertised, and is the lights-out winner we've been hearing about, I expect he'll take the reins by the end of this season and possibly the next, and I hope he wins. But Ferg was also Dooley's recruit, and he played arguably lesser competition in NC compared to what Dobbs did in GA. I hope he wins here, I really do. But he won't be redshirted this season, and I don't think he's the QB of the future in a long-term sense.

Just my $0.02.
 
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volfanstuckinga said:
I have watched all 4 games...and our QB play is horrid. And the freshmen can't be that promising or wouldn't they have gotten a chance by now?

So my question is....why don't I sense an urgency to get a QB in the class of 2014? I would think after watching these 4 games that would be seen as a top priority.

Some HS kid out there HAS to see this going on and be thinking....I could play there REAL quick.
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That point of view amazes me. We're less than a month into their true freshman season.
 
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When you are getting hammered by Oregon, blowing out WKU or blowing out Akron you could get them some reps just to see. At least ONE of them.

The point of view may amaze you but redshirting TWO QBs makes no sense to me
 
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They got here late in the recruiting process. They got Dobbs because they needed QB depth and he was easy to steal. Quit acting like that means he's the QB of the future. It means he's a good player. We don't know who the future is.
 
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PMC2726 said:
OP, those mid major coaches are putting their average qb's in a position to win. Our coaches are not doing the same.
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Based on what???? Because we lost to the #2 ranked team in the nation who could quite possible win the NC. Please explain??????????
 
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utvols74 said:
Why is it at UT we always need "time to develop freshman" (in most cases) whereas in other schools their freshman not only play, but contribute. (UF had a true freshman playing CB yesterday). There have not been that many here - E Berry comes to mind. Why does it seem that our freshman, in most instances, play like freshman?
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Because they're freshman....
 
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Ferguson has a swagger about himself that just reflects winning. This guy is going to be something special and he is going to win a lot of games here.
 
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I wasn't being negative on Dobbs. I think he has potential to be a good QB and maybe our starter. But l think Ferg is just as good and has led a team to state and won it. There's some intangibles that are there. And just because Butch didn't hand pick him like he did Dobbs doesn't mean Butch didn't want him. I think had Bray stayed, Dobbs wouldn't be here, not Riley. Butch could have asked Riley to leave but didn't. And remember, towards the end, Bama started recruiting Riley pretty hard. He told them no way, but it's still worth mentioning. But I do think one of the two will be a star here. My money is however on Ferg. It's just my opinion as well
 
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so we got 2 freshman qbs that were both in the elite 11 and somehow got zero talent for that position in the coming years? smh :no:

some people
 
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utvols74 said:
Why is it at UT we always need "time to develop freshman" (in most cases) whereas in other schools their freshman not only play, but contribute. (UF had a true freshman playing CB yesterday). There have not been that many here - E Berry comes to mind. Why does it seem that our freshman, in most instances, play like freshman?
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um we don't have a freshman, sophomore, junior, or senior on campus with the talent of their freshman starter Hargraves
 
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utvols74 said:
Why is it at UT we always need "time to develop freshman" (in most cases) whereas in other schools their freshman not only play, but contribute. (UF had a true freshman playing CB yesterday). There have not been that many here - E Berry comes to mind. Why does it seem that our freshman, in most instances, play like freshman?
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I wonder the same thing. Look at Goff in Cal, true freshman and is playing great. Manziel, Winiston (FSU) are/were playing at a high level. For next years class it seems we tried to get a top QB (Cornwell) but could not land him.
 
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I think with 25 commits for the 2014 class you can't deny there is a sense of urgency by Jones and staff to improve. As far as the QB question (and I don't know all the answers but I do follow recruiting a little) I think in 2014 we've missed on a lot of top targets BUT again it's still a long day til NSD. I think the overall answer to your question is that CBJ is trying to win this year with a lot of guys that he has neither recruited nor are ideal fits for his scheme. There obviously hasn't been a seamless transition--but he's kind of in a no-win situation in that regard you can't alienate the players as a new coach even if you are bringing in new guys.
 
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In this style of offense UT needs a Scott Frost style QB to run things....Tough enough to run whenever he can and with a decent throwing arm....Good duel threat qbs are out there and I would go get one just for insurance.
 
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