N.C.A.A. Votes to Give Greater Autonomy to Richest Conferences

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NCAA pretty much heard the SEC say "Leave us alone or we will start Our OWN NCAA and give you the boot!"

Meaning no more SEC millions for the NCAA! :the_finger:


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I think it'll be good if they let the others compete for their own national title. I've never thought it was fair for mtsu and Alabama to be competing for the same championship. I think this will cause another round if conference realignment, if schools can afford it. Teams like Boise state, UCF, etc is who I have in mind
 
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USC does not play the same game as San Jose State. Alabama does not play the same game as Troy. Michigan does not play the same game as Eastern Michigan.

This vote finally acknowledges what has been obvious for decades.
 
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bamawriter said:
USC does not play the same game as San Jose State. Alabama does not play the same game as Troy. Michigan does not play the same game as Eastern Michigan.

This vote finally acknowledges what has been obvious for decades.
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For most of the last century, Alabama has been playing by their own set of rules anyway, so I'm surprised to see one bat an eye. :pilot:
 
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This is huge. You're going to see teams fighting to get into these conferences. All the games will be conference games and the playoffs will expand.

It's going to be a NFLjr setup. I love it.
 
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College football is slowly but surely self destructing. It's "nascar-ing" itself a little more each year. The professionalization of college football is going to suck the life out of it over time. It won't even resemble the sport we all grew to love.
 
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bamawriter said:
USC does not play the same game as San Jose State. Alabama does not play the same game as Troy. Michigan does not play the same game as Eastern Michigan.

This vote finally acknowledges what has been obvious for decades.
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Alabama does not play the same game as Lousiana-Monroe... except when they do (and every program does at some point). Inevitably smaller schools are going to have less shots at the big boys in the future, but I think they should still have some opportunity to play the best.

This is crazy talk, but if the split occurs I'd like to see an EPL like promotion and relegation system that rewards the 5 top "non-Power 5" teams each year by upgrading them to temporary "Independent Power 5" status for the following season. The reverse would be true for the five worst "Power 5" teams who would be dropped down for a season. I think this would allow for at least some of the intrigue we've gotten in the past from the very best of the small schools playing the big boys. Also, this would be extra motivation for traditionally weak Power 5 programs like Indiana, Kentucky, and Kansas to not rest on their laurels based on their yearly automatic inclusion on CFB's main stage.
 
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This was inevitable and we will likely see some benefits but the change is so major that there will be unintended consequences.
 
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DL916 said:
This is huge. You're going to see teams fighting to get into these conferences. All the games will be conference games and the playoffs will expand.

It's going to be a NFLjr setup. I love it.
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What makes you think any of these conferences are going to want to invite anyone from the also-rans group of conferences?
 
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TrueOrange said:
What makes you think any of these conferences are going to want to invite anyone from the also-rans group of conferences?
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I don't think it will just be based on invites. But if you're a smaller school you either join a big conference or you're fighting to survive. Most small schools rely on playing big boys to make money. I'm not saying these conferences will be taking terrible schools. But I believe they'll take schools with certain resources.

These all just my guesses so please don't think I'm the all knowing or trying to push my opinion on people. Just stating what I think will happen.
 
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There is no end of football. You guys that think that are crazy. Too much money being made on football. What you will be getting is less playing of lower level teams. That is all.
 
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Death to College Football

Partiality to teams that draw more money

You think its hard for UT to compete now, wait until money can easily exchange hands
 
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gonzagafan62 said:
There is no end of football. You guys that think that are crazy. Too much money being made on football. What you will be getting is less playing of lower level teams. That is all.
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And what about those kids that earned scholarships to play at those colleges to get an education?
 
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This is nothing more than the Big 5 recognizing that they have to placate people and they can't do what they need to do without autonomy. This will enable them to do what they should have been doing, arguing about doing, for the last couple of decades.

It helps them keep the shell game going. They paid off the other D1 schools to make this happen. Most of them took the deal willingly.

The lawsuits in the pipeline will have a more profound effect on them...more than anything the Big 5 end up doing on their own.
 
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I think it's BAD if it means the NCAA retains authority. I.e. I don't think "greater" autonomy is what is needed… autonomy is the goal.
 
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gonzagafan62 said:
There is no end of football. You guys that think that are crazy. Too much money being made on football. What you will be getting is less playing of lower level teams. That is all.
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This is more about the bigger 65 schools being able to pass the rules or changes they want amongst themselves and how they play/function without having to get the approval of a majority of the 119 FBS schools (or the majority of the entirety of division 1 schools). This isn't really going to lead to the power 5 playing more power 5 schools.


It's just going to be the gap between the 65 schools in the power conferences and the others will drastically increase. For example, the issue of giving a scholarship athlete a financial stipend, the bigger schools would be able to push such a measure forward amongst the 65 of them with a now smaller, proper vote, as opposed to in the past requiring the proper number among everyone (a lot of whose athletic departments can't really afford such to the same degree as the biggest brands of schools, and in turn would vote against it.) The big schools with the bulk of the financial draw are going to be able to make the changes that benefit themselves the most / make themselves more appealing (mostly relative to money). The smaller guys still outside likely won't be able to do such.
 
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CountVolcula said:
And what about those kids that earned scholarships to play at those colleges to get an education?
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They still can and will. All this means is that the handcuffs come off of the big programs who want to invest more into their programs, but weren't allowed to in the name of "fairness".
 
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DL916 said:
I don't think it will just be based on invites. But if you're a smaller school you either join a big conference or you're fighting to survive. Most small schools rely on playing big boys to make money. I'm not saying these conferences will be taking terrible schools. But I believe they'll take schools with certain resources.

These all just my guesses so please don't think I'm the all knowing or trying to push my opinion on people. Just stating what I think will happen.
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These conferences aren't going to add some school that doesn't bring anything to the table in terms of financial gains (mainly through large media markets not accessed by the conference already). All the conference expansion/realignment showed that.

After the last round of realignment, pretty much everyone still left over outside of the major 5 conferences is such because they just don't have that much to offer; they don't have anything that appeals to strengthening or increasing the revenue of any of those conferences. These guys don't want to have to cut their own pie into more pieces if said pie isn't going to get larger as well...they're not really going to try to swoop in and save any of these smaller schools at this point (really, unless they're in a position where they're forced one as some sort of saving move for themselves, I can't really see any of them adding many of the currently outside schools).


(Especially since the point of this move was to get a much smaller approval number needed for the 65 to take action on things; saving/adding more of the smaller schools just raises that number and would pretty much put everything right back where it was before.)
 
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TrueOrange said:
These conferences aren't going to add some school that doesn't bring anything to the table in terms of financial gains (mainly through large media markets not accessed by the conference already). All the conference expansion/realignment showed that.
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The only school that is still outside the Power 5 that I think could be a net gain would be BYU. For whatver reason, though, the Pac 12 and Big XII have kept the Cougars at an arm's length. I guess the LDS factor is a turn-off, though I really don't understand why.
 
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