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#27
#27
bamawriter said:
Notre Dame has a negligent murderer for a coach and two sex criminals on the team, one of whose victims killed herself because of the intimidation she received following the assault.

To think that somehow compares to a drunken idiot who rubbed his junk on another drunken idiot is some pretty twisted thinking.
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Project much?
 
#29
#29
The only thing those two t-shirts will be suitable for next Tuesday morning will be wiping Armor All on tires. And tears out of Irish eyes.
 
#34
#34
bamawriter said:
I guess OJ Simpson didn't kill anyone, either.
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Yeah, let's compare what OJ did to bad judgment on Kelly's part.

Again, you sure do project. Whatever makes you feel better.

You said he was a 'negligent murderer'. Please provide the link.
 
#36
#36
OrangeBalls said:
Yeah, let's compare what OJ did to bad judgment on Kelly's part.

Again, you sure do project. Whatever makes you feel better.

You said he was a 'negligent murderer'. Please provide the link.
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I wasn't comparing his act to OJ's. You set conviction as a requirement, and I gave an example that suggests it's not.
 
#37
#37
bamawriter said:
I wasn't comparing his act to OJ's. You set conviction as a requirement, and I gave an example that suggests it's not.
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No, you called him a 'negligent murderer'. I asked you to provide a link where he was convicted as such. If you're going to throw out lies, you need to back them up.
 
#38
#38
OrangeBalls said:
No, you called him a 'negligent murderer'. I asked you to provide a link where he was convicted as such. If you're going to throw out lies, you need to back them up.
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Again, OJ Simpson killed two people and was not convicted.

Kelly sent that kid up in a portable lift in a windstorm. That decision resulted in the kid's death. There was a clear and present danger that Kelly ignored. Notre Dame settled with the victim's family. Because the settlement is sealed, there is no way to know what responsibility Kelly personally accepted.
 
#39
#39
bamawriter said:
Again, OJ Simpson killed two people and was not convicted.

Kelly sent that kid up in a portable lift in a windstorm. That decision resulted in the kid's death. There was a clear and present danger that Kelly ignored. Notre Dame settled with the victim's family. Because the settlement is sealed, there is no way to know what responsibility Kelly personally accepted.
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I'm sure Kelly regrets it after the fact, but I'm also sure a lot of coaches have probably sent kids up in a portable lift when the wind wasn't always calm. I doubt anyone does anymore. And if I'm the "kid", I question why I'm going up there in the first place if it was unsafe. At some point, you have to ask yourself is this safe. He was of legal age so he bears some responsibility too.

If Kelly was truly considered a 'negligent murderer' in question then he would've been tried as a 'murderer' as OJ was. He wasn't.
 
#40
#40
OrangeBalls said:
I'm sure Kelly regrets it after the fact, but I'm also sure a lot of coaches have probably sent kids up in a portable lift when the wind wasn't always calm. I doubt anyone does anymore. And if I'm the "kid", I question why I'm going up there in the first place if it was unsafe. At some point, you have to ask yourself is this safe. He was of legal age so he bears some responsibility too.

If Kelly was truly considered a 'negligent murderer' in question then he would've been tried as a 'murderer' as OJ was. He wasn't.
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Right. The DA for South Bend was going to charge ND's football coach. That's a surefire plan for keeping your job.

It's also really likely that a kid doing a workstudy job is going to tell the ND football coach 'no'. His last words made it clear that he was terrified on that lift.
 
#41
#41
bamawriter said:
Right. The DA for South Bend was going to charge ND's football coach. That's a surefire plan for keeping your job.

It's also really likely that a kid doing a workstudy job is going to tell the ND football coach 'no'. His last words made it clear that he was terrified on that lift.
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Because he and you know it would be stupid to do that. That's why I said you were projecting.

That "kid" was 20. Not 10. If his last words made it clear he was terrified then he really shouldn't have gone up there. If someone tells you to do something against your better judgment and you think your life is in danger then do you still do it? Sorry, not me.
 
#42
#42
OrangeBalls said:
Because he and you know it would be stupid to do that. That's why I said you were projecting.

That "kid" was 20. Not 10. If his last words made it clear he was terrified then he really shouldn't have gone up there. If someone tells you to do something against your better judgment and you think your life is in danger then do you still do it? Sorry, not me.
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You must have been the only 20 year old in history who would have stood up to your boss and said 'I'm too scared to do what you're telling me to do. Despite the fact that I could have my tuition waiver revoked if I don't perform, there is no way I'm doing (insert job requirement).'
 
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#43
#43
bamawriter said:
You must have been the only 20 year old in history who would have stood up to your boss and said 'I'm too scared to do what you're telling me to do. Despite the fact that I could have my tuition waiver revoked if I don't perform, there is no way I'm doing (insert job requirement).'
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This. Especially when your boss is the football coach at a school like Notre Dame.
 
#44
#44
bamawriter said:
You must have been the only 20 year old in history who would have stood up to your boss and said 'I'm too scared to do what you're telling me to do. Despite the fact that I could have my tuition waiver revoked if I don't perform, there is no way I'm doing (insert job requirement).'
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If it's life threatening, I'd bet more than one person wouldn't have done it. If your boss tells you to jump off a bridge I guess you just go ahead and do it?

According to the articles, the wind wasn't whipping when various other people were on the field so he went up. If he was spooked then he should've come down. Hell, they have cameras on poles now that should've been in place in the first place. Sounds like Notre Dame was a little outdated in their technology too.
 
#45
#45
OrangeBalls said:
If it's life threatening, I'd bet more than one person wouldn't have done it. If your boss tells you to jump off a bridge I guess you just go ahead and do it?
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So it's all the victim's fault?

I suppose the girl who was assaulted by the football player killed herself because she lead him on and felt horrible about it.
 
#46
#46
bamawriter said:
So it's all the victim's fault?

I suppose the girl who was assaulted by the football player killed herself because she lead him on and felt horrible about it.
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No, but he bears some responsibility. That is why Kelly was never charged for 'negligent murder' as you want to charge him with.

I don't know what the girl feels. However, you acting like Bama and Bama players haven't done thug things before is priceless. Every damn big time college program recruits from the same cesspool yet you think Bama is above it. Good Lord.
 
#47
#47
OrangeBalls said:
No, but he bears some responsibility. That is why Kelly was never charged for 'negligent murder' as you want to charge him with.
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If any member of that staff, the same staff that held practice indoors because of wind the day before, had said 'We aren't using the lifts today,' what are the odds that the young man would have died during that practice?
 
#48
#48
OrangeBalls said:
No, but he bears some responsibility. That is why Kelly was never charged for 'negligent murder' as you want to charge him with.

I don't know what the girl feels. However, you acting like Bama and Bama players haven't done thug things before is priceless. Every damn big time college program recruits from the same cesspool yet you think Bama is above it. Good Lord.
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she feels dead...she killed herself after getting harrassing emails from teammates, and the run around from school security and administration after she reported being raped
 
#49
#49
vol_in_ar said:
she feels dead...she killed herself after getting harrassing emails from teammates, and the run around from school security and administration after she reported being raped
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But you don't get it. The player just assaulted her and let his buddies bully jher into silence. He wasn't even around when she killed herself.

Am I doing it right, Balls?
 
#50
#50
There are many mobile homes in Alabama. Don't see the problem with the shirt. You expect ND to make fun of themselves?
 
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