'22 NC DE James Pearce (Tennessee signee)

[jakez4ut]

Well.how about that.

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Wonder how much his composite will move up on 247

It won't. Composite doesn't take On3 into account. I suggest we quit paying attention to the composite and now look to the On3 consensus. They take all 4 sites into account

2022 Consensus Football Team Recruiting Rankings

 

[thunder5]

It won't. Composite doesn't take On3 into account. I suggest we quit paying attention to the composite and now look to the On3 consensus. They take all 4 sites into account

2022 Consensus Football Team Recruiting Rankings

Seconded...

Can I get a "So moved!"

 

[SugarCC]

It won't. Composite doesn't take On3 into account. I suggest we quit paying attention to the composite and now look to the On3 consensus. They take all 4 sites into account

2022 Consensus Football Team Recruiting Rankings

Bass, why isn't that showing Pearce as a 5*?

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

It won't. Composite doesn't take On3 into account. I suggest we quit paying attention to the composite and now look to the On3 consensus. They take all 4 sites into account

2022 Consensus Football Team Recruiting Rankings

If On3 did the thing where you could post the profile info in a recruits thread like 247 does, then I wouldn’t even include 247 or rivals anymore

 

[Nashvegas31]

Dang! I mean he does look like a 5 star potential player on highlights but thought maybe that was my orange Kool aid

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

Bass, why isn't that showing Pearce as a 5*?

they haven't updated it yet. They're releasing them right now but haven't updated individual profiles

 

[Pacer92]

Freakish athlete. Has all the physical tools..

 

[Bassmaster_Vol]

"From a sheer talent perspective, Tennessee signee James Pearce (No. 11) may be the top pass rusher and perhaps prospect in the cycle." -On3

 

[Vols410]

"From a sheer talent perspective, Tennessee signee James Pearce (No. 11) may be the top pass rusher and perhaps prospect in the cycle." -On3

And he has Garner.

 

[TheMookieMonster]

Maybe we’ll be okay on the defensive line after all.

 

[SugarCC]

Pearce, Josephs, and the Herring kid next year...SURELY we're going to be able to get after the QB!!!

 

[VegasBaby!]

Seconded...

Can I get a "So moved!"

No.
On3 is not a class ranking, but rather a ranking of the average score of all players in the school's class. Those are two different things. Not seeing it? Look at the Jackson State #20 ranking with only 6 players. They are not the 20th best class, just the class where the average player ranking is 20th.

This flaw aside, I'm really excited about Pearce.

 

[Rylee_Vol18]

And he has Garner.

Whoa

 

[Rylee_Vol18]

On3, best recruiting site, hands down. Gotta re-do my No-ESPN rankings again now...

Just curious, why is it the best now?

 

[thunder5]

No.
On3 is not a class ranking, but rather a ranking of the average score of all players in the school's class. Those are two different things. Not seeing it? Look at the Jackson State #20 ranking with only 6 players. They are not the 20th best class, just the class where the average player ranking is 20th.

This flaw aside, I'm really excited about Pearce.

I agree about their team ranking…I do think their composite player ranking seems to be very solid

 

[volsfan_17]

No.
On3 is not a class ranking, but rather a ranking of the average score of all players in the school's class. Those are two different things. Not seeing it? Look at the Jackson State #20 ranking with only 6 players. They are not the 20th best class, just the class where the average player ranking is 20th.

This flaw aside, I'm really excited about Pearce.

Not so sure this is a flaw at all. Wouldn't that be a more accurate way to think about overall talent in a particular class?

 

[drylo]

Just curious, why is it the best now?

 

[Volinnooga]

Pearce, Josephs, and the Herring kid next year...SURELY we're going to be able to get after the QB!!!

Don't sleep on the Herring kid this year--he can play.

 

[SugarCC]

Don't sleep on the Herring kid this year--he can play.

Plays inside...I was talking specifically about pass rushers.

Excited about elder Herring, though.

 

[KeepinUpWithJones]

Not so sure this is a flaw at all. Wouldn't that be a more accurate way to think about overall talent in a particular class?

Would you rather have JSU’s class of 6 than our class?

 

[Devo182]

No.
On3 is not a class ranking, but rather a ranking of the average score of all players in the school's class. Those are two different things. Not seeing it? Look at the Jackson State #20 ranking with only 6 players. They are not the 20th best class, just the class where the average player ranking is 20th.

This flaw aside, I'm really excited about Pearce.

That is weird. Also ignores how your best 5 to 10 players have a greater impact. Why most systems skew towards your top recruits in weighting.

Biggest issue rn with them is not including transfers. That's such a gamechanger and adds value at a magnitude not seen in a long time. Hopefully they add that soon. In the grand scheme, a composite/consensus with transfers would be goat.

 

[volsfan_17]

Would you rather have JSU’s class of 6 than our class?

That's an incorrect argument. Would you trade their top six for our top six? That's what these rankings would measure.

 

[Vols410]

No.
On3 is not a class ranking, but rather a ranking of the average score of all players in the school's class. Those are two different things. Not seeing it? Look at the Jackson State #20 ranking with only 6 players. They are not the 20th best class, just the class where the average player ranking is 20th.

This flaw aside, I'm really excited about Pearce.

I don't think this is completely accurate either. Jackson state is ranked #20, but their average rating (92.83) really ranks 3rd nationally. Their score of 88.607 is adjusted for number of players, and that brings them down to 20th.

They calculate the average for the highest x number of players (with x changing throughout the season depending on how many recruits have committed) with an adjustment for less than that number of players. Need to dig into the math a bit more, but it seems to be a pretty good balance of quantity/quality.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

That's an incorrect argument. Would you trade their top six for our top six? That's what these rankings would measure.

Actually, that *is* the argument. They only have 6. You can't build a team with 6 signees. There needs to be a more complete picture of a class than "Hey, we got 6 dudes." If the other 14 are 0 star, unrated guys, that should drag the average down. If there's only 6, well, that's not really a number of players that is going to move your program forward. 20-25 is typically considered full class I believe, with some exceptions for programs with fewer openings, but in general there should be a minimum number of players (which some services use the top 20 recruits of each team's class) to gauge the overall level of talent of a recruiting class.