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[JohnWardForever]

“Conspiracy theories are belief in the devil, and they relieve people from the obligation of confronting the problem as it is.” MLK Jr.
Not sure about the devil part but we do tend to get distracted by the latest shiny object (conspiracy theory).

This Cov19 being created in a Lab is not a theory. You won't get the truth unless you search for it somewhere besides the MSM, where the Sheep get brainwashed. THEY even have the audacity to tell you a 95 mask won't help you avoid infection! BUT, the Medical Community MUST wear them. They take us for stupid; and they are right a good %.

 

[glv98]

Maybe Just Maybe this was a set up to take Trump down.

Because of course it was! As Jedi Master of the Universe, everything is about him.

And then the 12 year old Narcissist Club adjourned their meeting in time for the Q anon event.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Because of course it was! As Jedi Master of the Universe, everything is about him.

And then the 12 year old Narcissist Club adjourned their meeting in time for the Q anon event.

Oh hell, you are neither cute nor funny. Some are blind, and some refuse to see. Good Day!

 

[Lucy]

This Cov19 being created in a Lab is not a theory. You won't get the truth unless you search for it somewhere besides the MSM, where the Sheep get brainwashed. THEY even have the audacity to tell you a 95 mask won't help you avoid infection! BUT, the Medical Community MUST wear them. They take us for stupid; and they are right a good %.

Wow, just wow.

 

[glv98]

THEY even have the audacity to tell you a 95 mask won't help you avoid infection! BUT, the Medical Community MUST wear them. They take us for stupid; and they are right a good %.

Dear Lord. The virus is droplet borne for you, therefore an airborne particulate filtering N95 mask will not help you. Washing your hands will help you much more. Your danger is germs that have landed on something. The virus becomes airborne only during medical procedures that are aerolizing, which is why medical MUST wear an N95 (but pls not the same one over and over.) Unless you're sitting in on an intubation, bronch, cpaping, etc, you don't need to waste one.

Good point that those who consider you stupid are usually right.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Yes, an anti-virus is on the way from some BIG pharmaceutical company. It will cost .50 cents to produce and cost $500 to every human on the planet. Our president being a billionaire himself will see this as "business as usual" and do nothing. You and I get screwed just like always by big companies who really don't give a s*it about the common man, only the $$$$

That's bull hockey. Trump is pushing the Malaria Drug (Anti Viral) with zpack as the foremost treatment. The Cost Per Patient? $20.00!! Full treatment course!! The Establishment (CDC, WHO) doesn't want to use that, since Big Pharma can't make a Trillion Dollars on a 50 year old drug that they can't overcharge for. Remove the blinders.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Wow, just wow.

I'm sorry for you. Just keep feeding at the trough. Can you NEVER think for yourself? Think beyond the Talking Points? "If everyone is saying it, it must be true"?? That's you.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Dear Lord. The virus is droplet borne for you, therefore an airborne particulate filtering N95 mask will not help you. Washing your hands will help you much more. Your danger is germs that have landed on something. The virus becomes airborne only during medical procedures that are aerolizing, which is why medical MUST wear an N95 (but pls not the same one over and over.) Unless you're sitting in on an intubation, bronch, cpaping, etc, you don't need to waste one.

Good point that those who consider you stupid are usually right.

If the freaking stuff is airborne, the mask will certainly protect ME if an infected person sneezes or coughs in my area. MORONIC to think otherwise. Damn you people are whacked out. Not an iota of common sense. Go peddle that Jargon elsewhere. YOU walk around with no mask. Permission granted. Just How do you think all those quarantined on cruise ships became infected? This virus is transmitted through the HVAC system; which is pretty damn close to airborne; wouldn't you say? Geeze People. This virus was detected in the Hallways of the UNL Hospital where the first patients were being quarantined in the rooms. Airborne. I'm wearing my masks I purchased 3 years ago . Box of 10 N-95. Call me stupid? Well ok. I'll be overly protected; and damn glad of it. I started to refer to you in a derogatory fashion; but not gonna give you the satisfaction.

 

[Coach Jumper]

If the freaking stuff is airborne, the mask will certainly protect ME if an infected person sneezes or coughs in my area. MORONIC to think otherwise. Damn you people are whacked out. Not an iota of common sense. Go peddle that Jargon elsewhere. YOU walk around with no mask. Permission granted. Just How do you think all those quarantined on cruise ships became infected? This virus is transmitted through the HVAC system; which is pretty damn close to airborne; wouldn't you say? Geeze People. This virus was detected in the Hallways of the UNL Hospital where the first patients were being quarantined in the rooms. Airborne. I'm wearing my masks I purchased 3 years ago . Box of 10 N-95.

I love it when people like you come in here,,,it takes the focus off of people like me

 

[madtownvol]

This Cov19 being created in a Lab is not a theory. You won't get the truth unless you search for it somewhere besides the MSM, where the Sheep get brainwashed. THEY even have the audacity to tell you a 95 mask won't help you avoid infection! BUT, the Medical Community MUST wear them. They take us for stupid; and they are right a good %.

Nah man, you gotta find truth somewhere besides where the "sheeple who think they aren't sheeple" get brainwashed (Alex Jones is a total, lizard person, Illuminati stooge) .

The conspiracy runs deep, deeper than you can ever know. Take the red pill dude and see the TRUTH. Maybe the virus was bio-engineered in the US and released in China:
COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US - Global Research

And another red pill truth; Fish tank cleaner contains the malaria drug but THEY don't want you to KNOW that and don't believe the "fake sheeple news" about people poisoning themselves on this stuff.

Fact-check: Don't drink chloroquine fish-tank cleaner to stop coronavirus. It might kill you.

 

[JohnWardForever]

I love it when people like you come in here,,,it takes the focus off of people like me

You're welcome. I don't come here to make friends; or enemies, I just tell it as I see it. These people actually trust the MSM, the WHO, (China Propaganda Machine) and anyone with a beef against Trump. Damn the evidence, it's all agenda. I don't care if all of VN is against me, I'm going to post what I believe to be the Truth. That truth which is in short supply these days. I actually do some RESEARCH before spouting off; as opposed to many of my detractors; who simply watch cnn and say "Man you're crazy!" lol.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Nah man, you gotta find truth somewhere besides where the "sheeple who think they aren't sheeple" get brainwashed (Alex Jones is a total, lizard person, Illuminati stooge) .

The conspiracy runs deep, deeper than you can ever know. Take the red pill dude and see the TRUTH. Maybe the virus was bio-engineered in the US and released in China:
COVID-19: Further Evidence that the Virus Originated in the US - Global Research

And another red pill truth; Fish tank cleaner contains the malaria drug but THEY don't want you to KNOW that and don't believe the "fake sheeple news" about people poisoning themselves on this stuff.

Fact-check: Don't drink chloroquine fish-tank cleaner to stop coronavirus. It might kill you.

Man, don't mock me. If that's the best you got, just resist the temptation.

 

[volnationnj]

Man, don't mock me. If that's the best you got, just resist the temptation.

I know you didn't bring the name up, another poster did. But what do you think of Alex Jones ?

 

[madtownvol]

Man, don't mock me. If that's the best you got, just resist the temptation.

Then please stop spreading such mockable malarky. Your China theory has no more scientific credibility that the US origin theory. The DNA coding on corona virus clearly indicates that it was not bio-engineered but you don't believe in science so any cock-eyed conspiracy theory is just as good as the next.

The "evidence" that the corona virus was bio-engineered in the US is just as "good" as that for "the corona virus was bio-engineered in China" In other words, nada....

Anyway, wasn't the Corona virus just a "hoax" two weeks ago? When Hannity says jump, you say how high (and you call people who believe in science, "sheeple")

And the couple who poisoned themselves--the wife made very ill and husband died--completely bought into a certain reality TV star's "feeling" that hydroxychloroquine would protect them from the virus. And again, those pesky Illuminati scientists are finding out, via clinical trials, that this drug is not effective for this purpose but why trust scientists when you can rely on a politician's gut?

As for your debate with GLV98, over wearing masks, he is spot on. The air borne droplets indeed will penetrate a typical face mask:

The science, according to the CDC, says that surgical masks won’t stop the wearer from inhaling small airborne particles, which can cause infection. Nor do these masks form a snug seal around the face. The CDC recommends surgical masks only for people who already show symptoms of coronavirus and must go outside, since wearing a mask can help prevent spreading the virus by protecting others nearby when you cough or sneeze.


The CDC also does not recommend N95 respirators—the tight-fitting masks designed to filter out 95% of particles from the air that you breathe—for use, except for health care workers. Doctors and health experts keep spreading the word. “Seriously people- STOP BUYING MASKS!” tweeted Dr. Jerome Adams, the U.S. Surgeon General, on Feb. 29. “They are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!” I

Even though the N95 mask is a more effective barrier, it is not practical for everyday wear because it is very hard to breathe through (so people tend to constantly touch it to make adjustments in order to grab a few breaths of fresh air) and ordinary people are also not going to be stringent enough in performing the related sanitation procedures:

“When you take the mask off, you're going to have organisms that filtered through the mask on your hands. Then you may touch your face and you'll just inoculate yourself,” Dr. Swartzberg explained.

Remember (if those diabolical scientists are to be believed) touch is a primary vehicle for spreading the virus-- contaiminated hands to mouth and eyes.

In sum, wearing a mask is not a substitute for social distancing. That is why this line of thinking-- I'll wear a mask and then do whatever I want-- is not helping to contain the virus.

 

[Amb3096]

Unreal that all these armchair epidemiologists just come out of the woodwork. They are worse than anti-vaxxers.

Let's not trust doctors, but let's trust someone who read a bunch of self-selected articles that provides confirmation bias. Ok then...

 

[glv98]

Call me stupid?

Oh Goodness, forget already? You called yourself stupid bro.

They take us for stupid; and they are right a good %.

I was just agreeing with you.

Even though N95 mask is a more effective barrier, it is not practical for everyday wear because it is very hard to breathe through (so people tend to constantly touch it to make adjustments in order to grab a few breaths of fresh air) and ordinary people are also not going to be stringent enough in performing the related sanitation procedures:

“When you take the mask off, you're going to have organisms that filtered through the mask on your hands. Then you may touch your face and you'll just inoculate yourself,” Dr. Swartzberg explained.

Exactly. We've been told that "doffing" is by far the most dangerous time for infection. We have extensive learning sessions on what they call donning and doffing. You take the PPE off in a certain order and in a certain manner. Very important.

 

[krichunaka]

But I just HAVE to take a swing at this. Read the last clause back slowly and see if it sounds as dumb to you as it does to me. The Chinese win by hurting the US economy? So the manufacturer wins if they burn down the store? I'm trying to picture the Chinese leadership conversation in which its a good idea to get the US population locked down, financially broke, and out of WalMart. Why in the world would they benefit by destroying their best customer?

If you're going Chinese conspiracy, accidental release works way better than intentional.

Leaving the political frustrations on your part out for a moment, the Chinese would ABSOLUTELY desire a weakened U. S. economy; and not because they need the “customer,” but because of the tried and true business model: BUY LOW! This is much more about Buying U S, than selling. You must know this!
You have my sincerest prayers, 98, but for you to cry out against a particular party when our nation is struggling enough as things are to come together, is at best counter productive. So you, and many others don’t like our President; but this is not, nor has it been from it’s inception apolitical; and your otherwise heartbreaking post is the perfect example of why.

 

[Coach Jumper]

agree.
Me and glv have had major disagreements, but in what he faces being in the medical field...I pray for him also

 

[glv98]

I'm not an economist, so its probably just me, but I don't understand this. What exactly would China be buying low and selling high? You're right, anything more than the obvious that they would want to maintain their racket of selling tons of cheap junk made by exploited labor to Americans would be more than my economic simpleton brain could handle.

Not clear on the other part either; I agree its never been apolitical. That's a big part of the problem, we are SO politicized that even the initial leadership reaction to this nightmare was awash in political reaction. I don't like Trump, but I would be unhappy and cry out against any leader who's mistakes and organizing political principles put us in the position we are in right now.

The current leaders have an open skepticism of science and a loathing for expertise. They have also gutted many of the institutional assets that would have fought this, another eagerly embraced governing philosophy. That's their right, but all this, plus the known conspiratorial tendencies of the boss, combined to make an initial response that was tragically slow for such a monster problem.

Currently, their stated aversion to federalization is hurting the response. When the leader said I take no responsibility, he wasn't kidding. The anti-fed philosophy is to let the states fight it out even when they're begging for at least central coordination. Refusal to centralize the supply chain has led to the shameful spectacle of a bidding war for supplies and equipment with even FEMA stepping in to outbid states. Also allowed manufacturers to continue to ship and sell badly needed supplies overseas.

Meanwhile, we underprotect and wait for test results. I would be upset at this no matter what party or person was in charge. Not political, just observational.

Thanks both for your well wishes.

 

[madtownvol]

I'm not an economist, so its probably just me, but I don't understand this. What exactly would China be buying low and selling high? You're right, anything more than the obvious that they would want to maintain their racket of selling tons of cheap junk made by exploited labor to Americans would be more than my economic simpleton brain could handle.

Not clear on the other part either; I agree its never been apolitical. That's a big part of the problem, we are SO politicized that even the initial leadership reaction to this nightmare was awash in political reaction. I don't like Trump, but I would be unhappy and cry out against any leader who's mistakes and organizing political principles put us in the position we are in right now.

The current leaders have an open skepticism of science and a loathing for expertise. They have also gutted many of the institutional assets that would have fought this, another eagerly embraced governing philosophy. That's their right, but all this, plus the known conspiratorial tendencies of the boss, combined to make an initial response that was tragically slow for such a monster problem.

Currently, their stated aversion to federalization is hurting the response. When the leader said I take no responsibility, he wasn't kidding. The anti-fed philosophy is to let the states fight it out even when they're begging for at least central coordination. Refusal to centralize the supply chain has led to the shameful spectacle of a bidding war for supplies and equipment with even FEMA stepping in to outbid states. Also allowed manufacturers to continue to ship and sell badly needed supplies overseas.

Meanwhile, we underprotect and wait for test results. I would be upset at this no matter what party or person was in charge. Not political, just observational.

Thanks both for your well wishes.

On the economic side, I am linking an article Politico. It is a conservative-leaning, very pro-business outlet. They nicely explain that, in a globally linked economy, the commons-sense idea is that China's gain is our loss and vice versa, does not hold. When China slumps, the US because our economy is very much tied to trade, particularly in the agriculture sector. When China's economy slumps, they also take down most of the economies in Asia, which further restricts global trade.

What Trump Doesn’t Get About the Chinese Economy

The folks you are debating have two fallacies in their argument - that china bioengineered the virus (a 100% disproven conspiracy theory) and that they did so to get Trump (because creating a world economic shutdown is not great for China either.

Now, it turns out, there was another consequence of this strained relationships with China: the global public health network need to manage a pandemic:

Trump’s Break With China Has Deadly Consequences

 

[krichunaka]

On the economic side, I am linking an article Politico. It is a conservative-leaning, very pro-business outlet. They nicely explain that, in a globally linked economy, the commons-sense idea is that China's gain is our loss and vice versa, does not hold. When China slumps, the US because our economy is very much tied to trade, particularly in the agriculture sector. When China's economy slumps, they also take down most of the economies in Asia, which further restricts global trade.

What Trump Doesn’t Get About the Chinese Economy

The folks you are debating have two fallacies in their argument - that china bioengineered the virus (a 100% disproven conspiracy theory) and that they did so to get Trump (because creating a world economic shutdown is not great for China either.

Now, it turns out, there was another consequence of this strained relationships with China: the global public health network need to manage a pandemic:

Trump’s Break With China Has Deadly Consequences

First things first: I think the “Other Transfer” was April McDivitt. I know, I know; but these threads are becoming so intertwined that my aging mind can hardly keep things sorted. That, and I took the time to look it up, and didn’t want to lose it. Incidentally, she was just hired by the Fever.

98, I’m the furthermost thing from an economist, and I don’t want this to detract from your work and dedication. As I’ve stated elsewhere, my wife (Nurse) DIL, SIL, three nieces, plus so many other relatives are in your profession ...so please know that you have my (and I’m certain, everyone’s) heartfelt prayers and admiration.
My trek into the economic realm above was an observation, based more on decades-long Chinese “economic practices” than the Mercantile (Is that the right word, Madtown?) readouts. They are wicked. For instance, on the surface it appears that pork producer, Smithfield’s, is making hay with record sales. To China! Because, all they have to do is kill and third them, box ‘em up and ship ‘em out. I won’t waste your time detailing what’s wrong with that changeover, but the long-term effects will be very hurtful for the local employees. So, with respect to the “mutual economic losses” - ours AND China’s - they are not your typical, fly-by-night B-Teamers. So, destroying our economy is not the grand prize. Owning it is.

Madtown, I read through the Politico article. BTW, I don’t disagree in whole; but you really aren’t suggesting that “conservative-leaning” equates to Trump worship? The sole mission - from both parties and the middle, since election night 2016, has been, and still is ...to destroy Trump! If a deadly virus happens to enter the picture - POLITICALLY SPEAKING - by all means ...Never let a crisis go to waste.

At the end of the day, all of us are propping up the Chinese, regardless of any tariff structure; regardless of how much we love or hate our President; regardless of the low prices at WalMart. I can hardly look in the mirror and say that.

 

[Raebo]

This thread really stayed on topic, until the first post.
If they have students back on campus next fall, then I think they will have fall sports. They may make restrictions such as the number than can attend or give out masks, etc.. Probably give players a coronary test a couple hours before the game, since it looks like that test may be available in a few months.

 

[JohnWardForever]

as much as we have our bad moments,,,I pray for you in this matter glv
wow!

It's hopeless Man. The Left doesn't want a cure that would end this nightmare; They would rather people die and blame Trump. The Hydroxychloroquine & Zpack has demonstrated a 96% success rate; and all you hear from the Left is "We need a vaccine!" Vaccines are for In-curable diseases. People are being cured (Those lucky enough to escape Bureaucracy that resists using the Drug) IF you call "No virus detection after 6-9 days" Curing. Haters are going to hate, no matter what.

 

[madtownvol]

It's hopeless Man. The Left doesn't want a cure that would end this nightmare; They would rather people die and blame Trump. The Hrdroxychloroquine & Zpack has demonstrated a 96% success rate; and all you hear from the Left is "We need a vaccine!" Vaccines are for In-curable diseases. People are being cured (Those lucky enough to escape Bureaucracy that resists using the Drug) IF you call "No virus detection after 6-9 days" Curing. Haters are going to hate, no matter what.

Could you for one second consider that a pandemic is not a culture war matter? Yu say that the left wants everybody to die but they also want a preventive vaccine? Does that make any sense? Seriously, people on the left have family members who are older, are cancer patients and other at-risk groups. You seem to be a just a really horrible, horrible person.

And we have lots of vaccines for illnesses where there is a viable treatment. Ever hear of tetanus? You can treat it with antibiotics but it is really better not to get it, hence a vaccine.

Also, the WHO has been working on a vaccine for malaria (whose treatment drug you are touting for Covid-19) because again, preventing it would be a much better way to go than treating it after it has spread across a population.

So, you are TOTALLY wrong on that proposition about vaccines so perhaps you might be a little more open to info that diverges from what you are so sure you know.

The claims about hydroxychloroquine + Zinc are based on study coming from France (you trust French doctors now; what about freedom fries) of 42 patients without random assignments. Other medical teams are right now testing that very combo and the result are looking much more equivocal. Some studies are showing it is no more effective than a placebo-- because for most people, their immune systems will fight the virus off anyway. Without control groups (which the French study lacked), you can't tell the difference.

Also, this drug has significant side effects and so when you administer those seriously ill with the disease, you can put them at other kinds of risk. So, no one needs half-cocked internet warriors trying to self-prescribe without knowing that 1) the drug really works and 2) what an efficacious but non-lethal dose would be.

Last but not least, the liberals ain't in charge. The party of "personal responsibility" is and has been since 2016. We have gone from official announcements that corona is a hoax, it is fully contained, to I am not responsible for the mess we are now in.

I know you have seen none of that on Fox news but the FAKE news MSM has this curious habit of broadcasting what this particular political leader actually says. Good thing for people like you, that you can invent the President you want, not the prez you have. Unfortunately, that also means you ar spewing horrific disinformation about the corona virus.

 

[Lucy]

It's hopeless Man. The Left doesn't want a cure that would end this nightmare; They would rather people die and blame Trump. The Hrdroxychloroquine & Zpack has demonstrated a 96% success rate; and all you hear from the Left is "We need a vaccine!" Vaccines are for In-curable diseases. People are being cured (Those lucky enough to escape Bureaucracy that resists using the Drug) IF you call "No virus detection after 6-9 days" Curing. Haters are going to hate, no matter what.

You have now crossed into effing ridiculous territory! Do you not think liberals are having loved ones dying from this disease! I generally let your stupidity go yesterday but here you are back spouting misinformation that can kill. Ask your fellow believer who took fish bowl cleaner. Oh, wait! He’s dead!
Do you really think Drs and nurses with all of the years they have spent on education and experience would just ignore a cure! I have no idea what sort of insane web sites are peddling this absurdity! Probably the same disgusting creatures that think Sandy Hook was faked and Hillary Clinton is running a child porn ring out of a pizza parlor. I think it is great for our democracy to have conservative and progressive ideas. Hopefully they get us to better, more well thought out solutions but this peddling of complete bs does nothing but stir up crazies!
Finally, wrestling is not real and the moon landing did happen!
And really finally!!!!! Can we move on!