NCAA praises Congress Bill for NIL

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

So the new head of the NCAA thinks it's great that the Senate is considering a bill that regulates NIL. Among other things it requires schools to cover certain sports related insurance costs for 8 years AFTER a player finishes playing. It also wants other insurance coverage depending on how much revenue the school generates from sports.

Does this sound like the players aren't employees?

NCAA president calls new bill 'major step' for NIL

 

[ptcarter]

First thought.. if the NCAA thinks it's great, what's wrong with it? Will have to drill a little deeper to challenge my gut instinct.

 

[Illinoisvolfan2]

Something needs to be done, but I doubt anything good will come of a government bill.

 

[JohnWardForever]

Just like Congress. Can't make a bill that addresses the problem without including a bunch of crap that totally screws it up.....

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

So the new head of the NCAA thinks it's great that the Senate is considering a bill that regulates NIL. Among other things it requires schools to cover certain sports related insurance costs for 8 years AFTER a player finishes playing. It also wants other insurance coverage depending on how much revenue the school generates from sports.

Does this sound like the players aren't employees?

NCAA president calls new bill 'major step' for NIL

It's irrelevant how much it sounds like players are employees though if Congress passes the bill because Congress created the Anti-Trust laws and they can override them and create exceptions. Federal law also preempts State law.

 

[butchna]

Opening themselves up to sharing the whole BILLIONS of pie instead of simply allowing them to profit off their own marketability.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

It's irrelevant how much it sounds like players are employees though if Congress passes the bill because Congress created the Anti-Trust laws and they can override them and create exceptions. Federal law also preempts State law.

I don't think these proposed laws deal with Anti-Trust but even Congress can't arbitrarily decide college athletes can't be considered professionals.

After that, everything disintegrates. You'll need a draft out of high school, the "you can only play as long as you're eligible" rules will be negated by employment laws, collective bargaining starts, etc.

Congress cannot (or certainly should not) create a class of athlete that has their employment rights restricted like that.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Manchin and Tuberville introduce bipartisan bill to shake up college sports

What's the best way to ruin a functioning marketplace???

Let the government get involved. So they can spend infinite amounts more taxpayer money meddling where they do not belong and were never invited to begin with...while greatly reducing profitability, efficiency, simplicity, and anything else they can ruin.

Smdh...this is the nanny state in action. I hope this bill gets shot down immediately, or at the least found to be unconstitutional by the courts.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

I don't think these proposed laws deal with Anti-Trust but even Congress can't arbitrarily decide college athletes can't be considered professionals.

After that, everything disintegrates. You'll need a draft out of high school, the "you can only play as long as you're eligible" rules will be negated by employment laws, collective bargaining starts, etc.

Congress cannot (or certainly should not) create a class of athlete that has their employment rights restricted like that.

Well, all the pro-player court decisions that spawned this situation were based on Anti-Trust, so this would bee an end run around the favorable court decisions for the players. Congress can also override any other federal statutes dealing with employment, and State laws in conflict with federal laws as a general rule are automatically pre-empted. I am not super passionate about this subject one way or another, on the one hand I think there needs to be order, and on the other hand I think the schools and the NCAA created this problem themselves by being greedy however, that said, Congress was always their only hope (think about what a terrible situation to be in that is), and if Congress steps in, they can bring order to the chaos. Whether they actually do it or not (meaning whether a bill actually gets passed and signed by the President) remains to be seen. Ordinarily they can't agree on the color of shite.

 

[Starchief13VFL]

“I’m from the government, I’m here to help”

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

Well, all the pro-player court decisions that spawned this situation were based on Anti-Trust, so this would bee an end run around the favorable court decisions for the players. Congress can also override any other federal statutes dealing with employment, and State laws in conflict with federal laws as a general rule are automatically pre-empted. I am not super passionate about this subject one way or another, on the one hand I think there needs to be order, and on the other hand I think the schools and the NCAA created this problem themselves by being greedy however, that said, Congress was always their only hope (think about what a terrible situation to be in that is), and if Congress steps in, they can bring order to the chaos. Whether they actually do it or not (meaning whether a bill actually gets passed and signed by the President) remains to be seen. Ordinarily they can't agree on the color of shite.

Agreed. Congress COULD but the only organization more inept than the NCAA is Congress.

I believe the SCOTUS has been really clear that the current model won't stand a legal test. I've less than zero hope that Congress will develop a working model the SCOTUS lets stand.

My hope is that this is tied up in courts/Congress until I'm drooling and in Depends (next week, according to my grandkids) or I'm fertilizer.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Everything the government touches turns to

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

If you want college football to survive in any form resembling the one we presumably all fell in love with growing up, you have got to support congressional action. I am not a big government person at all, but Congress is legally the only entity that can make any enforceable rules in the wake of the recent court rulings. There have to be some rules, because the current Wild West landscape is not sustainable.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Agreed. Congress COULD but the only organization more inept than the NCAA is Congress.

I believe the SCOTUS has been really clear that the current model won't stand a legal test. I've less than zero hope that Congress will develop a working model the SCOTUS lets stand.

My hope is that this is tied up in courts/Congress until I'm drooling and in Depends (next week, according to my grandkids) or I'm fertilizer.

The problem is that the courts have ruled in essence that the old NCAA model violated federal Antitrust law. Again, Congress can make an exemption to the Antitrust laws if it wants to since they wrote them in the first place. There was an exemption for MLB for years (maybe there still is, I don't keep up with that), but they can create exceptions. This probably won't pass though. Rarely do they ever identify a problem and just address it. That would be incredible if they actually did pass just an NIL bill. Usually both sides will put amendments in prospective bills about completely unrelated crap until eventually no one supports it anymore. That's what usually happens.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

Anything that has Tommy Tuberville's name on it......is probably not good.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Manchin and Tuberville introduce bipartisan bill to shake up college sports

What's the best way to ruin a functioning marketplace???

Let the government get involved. So they can spend infinite amounts more taxpayer money meddling where they do not belong and were never invited to begin with...while greatly reducing profitability, efficiency, simplicity, and anything else they can ruin.

Smdh...this is the nanny state in action. I hope this bill gets shot down immediately, or at the least found to be unconstitutional by the courts.

Hopefully will come to a dead end for them before any ridiculous legislation is passed. Can't believe Tuberville would be willing to co-sponsor. Then again, he's an ignorant clown.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

If you want college football to survive in any form resembling the one we presumably all fell in love with growing up, you have got to support congressional action. I am not a big government person at all, but Congress is legally the only entity that can make any enforceable rules in the wake of the recent court rulings. There have to be some rules, because the current Wild West landscape is not sustainable.

Can't get rid of it, BUT certain guidelines should be established to ensure the original intent of it is followed.

Maybe with Congress getting involved, it will force the NCAA to make amendments. I don't necessarily believe it should the same as it has since I became a fan in the late 1960s

 

[Ostrich]

If you want college football to survive in any form resembling the one we presumably all fell in love with growing up, you have got to support congressional action. I am not a big government person at all, but Congress is legally the only entity that can make any enforceable rules in the wake of the recent court rulings. There have to be some rules, because the current Wild West landscape is not sustainable.

Agree that we need some rules, and it's going to continue to get more and more out of hand. Not sure I want congress involved though.. From skimming the article, it sounds like this is a lot more than just reigning in the NIL pay-to-win and transfer portal madness.

From the article: "The legislation mandates that four-year institutions provide healthcare coverage to student athletes, including insurance to athletes who are uninsured for eight years after they graduate. "

Keep in mind, a lot of the schools that participate in college athletics are private institutions.

 

[lukeneyland]

Agree that we need some rules, and it's going to continue to get more and more out of hand. Not sure I want congress involved though.. From skimming the article, it sounds like this is a lot more than just reigning in the NIL pay-to-win and transfer portal madness.

From the article: "The legislation mandates that four-year institutions provide healthcare coverage to student athletes, including insurance to athletes who are uninsured for eight years after they graduate. "

Keep in mind, a lot of the schools that participate in college athletics are private institutions.

That was my thought as well. They seem to already be taking it an excessive direction. We need to address the states ability to sue the NCAA frivolously because it makes enforcement of rules very difficult.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Can't get rid of it, BUT certain guidelines should be established to ensure the original intent of it is followed.

Maybe with Congress getting involved, it will force the NCAA to make amendments. I don't necessarily believe it should the same as it has since I became a fan in the late 1960s

Congress is the ONLY entity that exists that can make any nationally enforceable rules in the wake of the recent court decisions. In essence, the courts ruled that the old NCAA model violated the federal Antitrust laws which were written by Congress. Congress can make exceptions to their own laws, so whatever they pass should not run afoul of Antitrust and should be legal. I generally hate the government getting involved but there's really not any choice here. There need to be rules, whatever short term advantage people think NIL has created for us, college football will be absolutely unrecognizable in 5-10 years if there is not some rules put in place.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I disagree. In the decade from 2010-2020 when the top 3 recruiting classes every year were Bama, Clemson, and the Buckeyes...which took all the 5stars and best 4star players leaving the other 130FBS teams to fight over the leftover scraps.

Now the last 2 recruiting classes have seen teams like UT, aTm, Michigan, Texas etc ALL be able to buy some top shelf players! There are actually 5 or 6 teams now each season with a legitimate chance to win the Championship....where as for more than a decade straight it was just a matter of which of those top 3 teams would get the trophy. There is actual competition now...no more monopoly on the best players every year. Hell Deion Sanders can even buy a couple top players for lowly Colorado...a team that has absolutely sucked balls for 20 years straight. Every top recruit that he gets, or aTm, Ole Miss, Flarduh, Michigan, Wisconsin, USC get...is another top recruit that Bama and UGA do NOT get. No more having Bama so deep that their backups in the 2deep could win the SEC east every year. No more Clemson backups being better than 90% of the ACC starting teams.

Goverment ruins everything it touches. If yall havent noticed...the NIL era has been very, very good for the VOLS. No way Coach Hype could completely rebuild our roster and go 11-2 in only 2 seasons without NIL and the portal....we would have been lucky if he could pull that off in 5 years prior to NIL. The NCAA is nearly obsolete, and this is a last gasp effort at relevancy. College Football needs the parody that came with NIL.

 

[unfrozencvmanvol]

Agree that we need some rules, and it's going to continue to get more and more out of hand. Not sure I want congress involved though.. From skimming the article, it sounds like this is a lot more than just reigning in the NIL pay-to-win and transfer portal madness.

From the article: "The legislation mandates that four-year institutions provide healthcare coverage to student athletes, including insurance to athletes who are uninsured for eight years after they graduate. "

Keep in mind, a lot of the schools that participate in college athletics are private institutions.

Practically no one but Congress has the power to do anything though. The pro-player court decisions were all based on the old NCAA model violating federal Antitrust laws which were passed by Congress, so only Congress can change that situation. They can create exceptions to their own laws, which is what this would be. They can also regulate private entities who participate in interstate commerce, so that's going to cover private schools since private schools get students from all over the place.

 

[WillisWG]

Manchin, Tuberville Introduce Legislation to Address Name, Image and Likeness in College Sports | U.S. Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia

State NIL rules are a patchwork and differ from state to state but I am not sure Congress needs to be involved.

 

[GAVol]

Such a bad idea.

…and I have shocking news. College football has been the Wild West for 40 years and escalating rights fees have upped the ante the past 10-15 years. The difference is, it all used to be under the table and didn’t affect your sensibilities. Sensibilities are a bad reason to pass laws and Congress will overreach.

 

[BernardKingGOAT]

Congress is the ONLY entity that exists that can make any nationally enforceable rules in the wake of the recent court decisions. In essence, the courts ruled that the old NCAA model violated the federal Antitrust laws which were written by Congress. Congress can make exceptions to their own laws, so whatever they pass should not run afoul of Antitrust and should be legal. I generally hate the government getting involved but there's really not any choice here. There need to be rules, whatever short term advantage people think NIL has created for us, college football will be absolutely unrecognizable in 5-10 years if there is not some rules put in place.

NIL is needed. Players should be able to garner income from the university or businesses using their likeness to sell product. That was overdue;however, the seemingly limitless offerings to recruits has gotten out of hand. NIL is designed to assist players AFTER they have signed and are on campus. I understand the technicality of the courts and it's application to changes. Congress could pass legislation stipulating changes the NCAA must make to move forward. My point is that the NCAA could be proactive and provide that to Congress