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Donatello

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I find it hard to believe that a lot of people posting on this site are true Tennessee fans. There is so much negative posting it makes me sick. Yes, last year was a terrible year, but everyone should admit that TN could have easily finished the regular season at 9-2. TN was in the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Vanderbilt games. What if Tn had found a way to win those games? Would everyone still be saying how much the program has fallen? There is a very thin line between winning and losing and it just so happened that last year, we didn't get any breaks, except for the LSU game. In my opinion, last year's final record was a total fluke. TN is still a great program with great facilities and a coach that is one of the winningest active coaches in America. In today's college landscape, its difficult to compete for National Championships every year. Every team has it's ups and downs. I think that last year was good for TN, because I believe the team will be hungry this year. Things are not as bad though, as a lot of people on this board seem to think. Based on our recruiting from 2002 - 2005, I don't think the cupboard is bare, so to speak, in terms of talent. TN will be fine and I believe the Vols will have a great season.
 
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Oh I forgot, we were in the South Carolina game as well. That's 5 games, we either should have or could have won.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 12 said:
I find it hard to believe that a lot of people posting on this site are true Tennessee fans. There is so much negative posting it makes me sick. Yes, last year was a terrible year, but everyone should admit that TN could have easily finished the regular season at 9-2. TN was in the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Vanderbilt games. What if Tn had found a way to win those games? Would everyone still be saying how much the program has fallen? There is a very thin line between winning and losing and it just so happened that last year, we didn't get any breaks, except for the LSU game. In my opinion, last year's final record was a total fluke. TN is still a great program with great facilities and a coach that is one of the winningest active coaches in America. In today's college landscape, its difficult to compete for National Championships every year. Every team has it's ups and downs. I think that last year was good for TN, because I believe the team will be hungry this year. Things are not as bad though, as a lot of people on this board seem to think. Based on our recruiting from 2002 - 2005, I don't think the cupboard is bare, so to speak, in terms of talent. TN will be fine and I believe the Vols will have a great season.

Hope you are right about next season. Right now the cupboard is bare on the OL, possibly the DL, and great programs make their own breaks...they don't lose to Vandy, and they don't retain coaches that are unqualified because the head coach is talked out of showing them the door. Based on UTs preseason ranking I think the great title has been discarded. I hope with every fiber in my being that I am wrong.

I hope that you find more important things in your life to disturb you other than posters on an internet site.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 12 said:
I find it hard to believe that a lot of people posting on this site are true Tennessee fans.

Thats because a very small few number of people arent Tennessee fans. But most of the people on this board are. True there is alot of negative comments but what do you expect? Tennessee just had its first losing record since the 80's. It's not like everyone is going to be upbeat around here after a season like that. I think we as a fan base each year expect nothing less than a top 5 or top 10 finish year. And last year was a trainwreck when compared to those expectations. It is true that a few games last year were respectable losses (Fla, Bama, Georgia). But others were inexcusable. South Carolina should have been a win and the team didnt even show up to play in South Bend. Remember that we almost lost to Memphis as well. I would put vandy on this list but the team was so beat down by that point that they werent playing like themselves. That being said, I think that this year's team will be a big impprovement of last year's. I think this team, like you said earlier, will be hungry to compete. I think we can expext a 9 win season. 10 wins at best.
 
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Only time will tell whether you are right or whether Tennessee football is now just a midling SECE team. Seems to me, though, that this board is not just a rah rah board. Its a place for open and earnest discussion of perceived strengths and weaknesses of your team.

Being critical and honest doesn't mean you aren't a fan. I post on here all the time how much I hope UF gets back into the SECE driver's seat. But I also post regularly that I am very concerned about the UF offensive line, Leak's refusal to run the option correctly, etc.

I happen to think true fans try at least periodically to be objective about where their team is at the moment. If it isn't all rosy and rah rah, so be it.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 12 said:
I find it hard to believe that a lot of people posting on this site are true Tennessee fans. There is so much negative posting it makes me sick.

If I send you a poster from the 98 season can you get your dad to sign it? Thanks.
 
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(oklavol @ Jun 12 said:
If I send you a poster from the 98 season can you get your dad to sign it? Thanks.

You mean you haven't burnt it in protest?
 
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Man just think about it. On paper we have an offensive line that will be 4-5 rookies, not to mention the TE. A QB that has been errattic in the past, LBs are being rebuilt, patchwork defensive line, special teams that are hopeless. How in the world do we expect to beat a Cal team with a good rb thats a throwing team and on defense returns two veteran corners. Our runs are gonna get stuffed and our passes should they actually get thrown theres a whole lot more that can go bad and only 1 good outcome. How can we even move the chains, let alone score?This may be a a negative post but it could very well be the reality of whats gonna happen. Of course I HOPE that our olinemen gel as a unit and Arian Foster runs like a madman, just move the chains baby. I HOPE that our TE will be a Wittenlike suprise, and that Ainge'e mechanics and footwork as well as his confidence and swagger have vastly improved. With coach Cut's direction I hope so, that and every single player challenge themselves to execution on every play. I HOPE our defense will be attacking the line of scrimmage while maintaing a healthy respect for fundamental tackling. Thats why they play the games cause it aint decided by negative or positive posts in message boards. GO VOLS!
 
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(Orangewhiteblood @ Jun 12 said:
You mean you haven't burnt it in protest?

No I haven't, I bet it would look nice hanging above that bust of Fulmer you have on
your nightstand though.
 
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(Donatello from Bucksnort @ Jun 12 said:
I find it hard to believe that a lot of people posting on this site are true Tennessee fans. There is so much negative posting it makes me sick. Yes, last year was a terrible year, but everyone should admit that TN could have easily finished the regular season at 9-2. TN was in the Florida, Georgia, Alabama, and Vanderbilt games. What if Tn had found a way to win those games? Would everyone still be saying how much the program has fallen? There is a very thin line between winning and losing and it just so happened that last year, we didn't get any breaks, except for the LSU game. In my opinion, last year's final record was a total fluke. TN is still a great program with great facilities and a coach that is one of the winningest active coaches in America. In today's college landscape, its difficult to compete for National Championships every year. Every team has it's ups and downs. I think that last year was good for TN, because I believe the team will be hungry this year. Things are not as bad though, as a lot of people on this board seem to think. Based on our recruiting from 2002 - 2005, I don't think the cupboard is bare, so to speak, in terms of talent. TN will be fine and I believe the Vols will have a great season.
I'd say 5 negative frequent posters on here compared to over a 100 regular positive posters is pretty darn good.We all just want to get back to the winning ways we have grown accustomed to.
 
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Im down with Bucksnort, been through there on a # of occasions...The bucksnort tavern (AKA-"The Brown Bottle")

Sorry fellas, im with this guy. Although I dont condone a 5-6 season..I think we are all spoiled by UT's success over the years. but I do see all your points, I mean we are all entitled to our own opinions without ridicule right? I wasnt calling for Fulmers head after the season, but switching the QB's around like he did hurt our offense in my opinion and he should have put an end to it earlier on I believe. I was on the other hand calling for Randy Sanders head.... I think he was incapable of developing QB's. I am really optomistic about this season, as we all should be...I mean David Cutcliffe is back, that in itself gives me a warm and fuzzy. QB play should be up a few notches as well as a refreshed offensive playbook. Im looking for a 2500+ yd year by Ainge, and at least a 1200+ yd year by Foster. You know Chavis will have his boys ready... Bring on Cal

 
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Even with the lines being young next year, I think we'll be ok. I'm just looking for overall improvement as a team.

I want to see the special teams look special, the QB making catchable throws, the receivers catching those throws, the backs holding onto the ball and no draw plays on 3rd and long.

I think if we can go 9-3 or better, we'll be in terrific shape in 2007..
 
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(dan4vols @ Jun 12 said:
Man just think about it. On paper we have an offensive line that will be 4-5 rookies, not to mention the TE. A QB that has been errattic in the past, LBs are being rebuilt, patchwork defensive line, special teams that are hopeless. How in the world do we expect to beat a Cal team with a good rb thats a throwing team and on defense returns two veteran corners. Our runs are gonna get stuffed and our passes should they actually get thrown theres a whole lot more that can go bad and only 1 good outcome. How can we even move the chains, let alone score?This may be a a negative post but it could very well be the reality of whats gonna happen. Of course I HOPE that our olinemen gel as a unit and Arian Foster runs like a madman, just move the chains baby. I HOPE that our TE will be a Wittenlike suprise, and that Ainge'e mechanics and footwork as well as his confidence and swagger have vastly improved. With coach Cut's direction I hope so, that and every single player challenge themselves to execution on every play. I HOPE our defense will be attacking the line of scrimmage while maintaing a healthy respect for fundamental tackling. Thats why they play the games cause it aint decided by negative or positive posts in message boards. GO VOLS!

How do you get a O line with 4-5 rookies.

David Ligon
2005 - Games/Starts: 7/4 ... Claimed starting center spot on depth chart during preseason practice but suffered ankle injury during August scrimmage ... Saw limited action at center during Vols' 27-10 win over Mississippi ... Made first career start when the Vols visited Notre Dame ... Also started versus Memphis, Vanderbilt and Kentucky ... Selected to Academic All-SEC team.

Aaron Sears
2005 - Games/Starts: 11/11 ... Played all but center position during 2005 ... Named first-team All-SEC by league coaches and writers ... Started first two games of season at left tackle ... Started at right guard and played 85 snaps in LSU game ... Played every O-line position but center versus Tigers ... Started at left guard versus Ole Miss and earned SEC Offensive Lineman of the Week honors ... For his career, has 13 starts at left tackle, six at right tackle, four at right guard and one at left guard.

Ramon Foster
2005 - Games/Starts: 7/2 ... Drew two starting assignments out of seven games played ... Six of those appearances were versus SEC competition ... For his efforts, earned Freshman All-SEC nod by league coaches ... Started at left guard in collegiate debut vs. UAB after injuries at center position forced veteran Rob Smith to fill that void ... Saw action along the offensive front at LSU ... Saw significant playing time vs. Vanderbilt and started at right tackle in the season-finale at Kentucky.

Eric Young
2005 - Games/Starts: 9/2 ... Played nine games, including last six in succession ... Made first career start when Vols traveled to LSU ... Added second consecutive start at left tackle position during win over Mississippi

Anthony Parker
2005 - Games/Starts: 6/1 ... Made collegiate debut during loss at Florida, seeing key minutes at center during first half ... Started for first time in collegiate career at LSU, manning center position ... Appeared in six games overall.

TE: Chris Brown
2005 - Games/Starts: 11/10 ... Sure-handed receiver caught passes in eight games ... Two receptions for 17 yards vs. UAB ... Catches of 14 and four yards at Florida ... Hauled in 8-yard pass at LSU ... Caught 9-yard pass vs. Mississippi ... One reception for 18 yards at Alabama and two grabs for 21 yards at Notre Dame ... Totaled career-best 25 yards in each of last two games, with three catches vs. Vanderbilt and pair of grabs at Kentucky.



Now that is just the O line. We may not be as deep as in previous years but we will be there, but it sure isn't what you would call a rookie line in 4-5 of the positions.







 
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I agree with bucksnort. The negative comments on this board have to go. Of course when I call some of these posters out they say I am ignorant or that I shouldn't question their loyalty.
 
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(volinasheville @ Jun 12 said:
I agree too, lets just all pretend we really were 9-2, raises and extensions all around.
Exactly. SEC titles are overrated. Chick Fil A Peach Bowls and losses to Vanderbilt are just as good.
 
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I think its because you are new to the board dood..(IMO) It makes them mad because you have 10 posts and they have 2-3 thousand...We all have our own opinions, who says just because you have been on this board longer your opinion has anymore merit than mine? I may be a newb to this site, but Im not new to the Vols.
 
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(85Destiny @ Jun 12 said:
I agree with bucksnort. The negative comments on this board have to go. Of course when I call some of these posters out they say I am ignorant or that I shouldn't question their loyalty.
Well, when you and the Ninja Turtle have your own board you can set the rules. Until then, get thicker skin or move on. It's survival of the intellectually fittest around here. The weak of heart or mind need not enter.
 
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(volinasheville @ Jun 12 said:
I know several people I want to do my next performance evaluation.
Everyone would make 2 mil a year and the water fountains would spew Cristal if these guys were in management positions. I'm sure Buzz Peterson would still be an employee of the University of Tennessee.
 
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I think what all the "Positive" people are saying is that last year is over, therefore get over it. They fired the ones that they thought were to blame, quit griping about it. Everyone here with the exception of a few want to see us win another NC in a few years...I think having DC back gives us a better chance, seems like that would make a few people optomistic about the coming season, you guys want NC's every year...and while that is commendable and all, its not practical.
 
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(voldaddy77 @ Jun 12 said:
I think what all the "Positive" people are saying is that last year is over, therefore get over it. They fired the ones that they thought were to blame, quit griping about it. Everyone here with the exception of a few want to see us win another NC in a few years...I think having DC back gives us a better chance, seems like that would make a few people optomistic about the coming season, you guys want NC's every year...and while that is commendable and all, its not practical.
I haven't seen anyone calling for a National Championship every year. An SEC title in the last seven years would have been nice. But, the Peach Bowl is obviously enough to satisfy a substantial portion of the fan base.
 
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I think we made the right moves in the offseason, therefore I am optomistic. Im ready to move on to this coming up season and forget about last year...I dont think an SEC championship is out of reach...I just dont understand all the bashing of everything VOL just for being average for one season.
 
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(voldaddy77 @ Jun 12 said:
I think we made the right moves in the offseason, therefore I am optomistic. Im ready to move on to this coming up season and forget about last year...I dont think an SEC championship is out of reach...I just dont understand all the bashing of everything VOL just for being average for one season.
One season? Do you remember 2000? 2002? 5-6 is not average. For a program with UT's tradition and resources, a losing record is nothing short of pathetic.
 

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