Netflix Untold: Johnny Football

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I think it's a sad story but, that guy could've made a killing with today's NIL.

One of a very few I could say that about.
 
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The tidbit that his family wasn’t rich and that story was a fabrication by Uncle Nate was new information. Also liked the smirk by both Johnny and his former agent about how the Aggies fourth string QB took his drug tests. The guy was liquid excitement for two seasons. You never felt safe if you were on the opposing sideline and it was from sheer force of will. The football equivalent of Pete Rose and Lenny Dykstra…and on par with their self-destructiveness.
 
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It was pretty good I thought. I think it's clear that deep down Johnny knew he wasn't an NFL QB. He didn't want to be. Im in the middle of the Quarterback series on Netflix and it's crazy seeing the difference in how true professionals approach the game vs a guy like Manziel. It's sad he was planning on suicide, I hope he gets it turned around.
 
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05_never_again said:
I think he wanted to play pro ball, but thought he could just show up and wing it and be a superstar like at A&M.
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I don't know if he thought that. I think he just didn't know how to put the work in. Some people really don't know how to work and can't do it when the time comes, and they know they need to do it. I think that's part of why he was so unhappy in the NFL, before the wheels fell off. It's like you hate yourself for not being able to do the thing that you know you have to do and you just keep running from it, and everything snowballs.
 
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LouderVol said:
like I said that wasn't his problem. and sitting down and having a beer is completely different than running a bar in a college town.

again if he is remorseful and trying to remove himself from the party that lead him to drugs, it seems like a bad idea to open up a bar in the town that his party problem started.
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Why do you think he should be remorseful? He said in the documentary that he liked the party after the game more than the game. He said he was miserable in Cleveland. I mean the only person he screwed was himself when it came to his football career. If he can hold it in the road enough to run a bar in college station maybe he will be happier doing that than he would’ve been in the nfl.
 
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05_never_again said:
I think he wanted to play pro ball, but thought he could just show up and wing it and be a superstar like at A&M.
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It never seemed he gave it an ounce of effort to succeed. “0” hours of film watching on his iPad kinda tells me he was never into being a pro.
 
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05_never_again said:
I haven't seen all of them, but in my experience the sports series that Netflix puts out (Manti Teo, Full Swing, Aaron Hernandez, etc.) are targeting people who don't watch those sports. If you follow sports and kept up with those events as they occurred, there's virtually no new information in them.
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Just watched all four Swamp King episodes, and there was little to no new information shared.
 
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jarnol32 said:
Why do you think he should be remorseful? He said in the documentary that he liked the party after the game more than the game. He said he was miserable in Cleveland. I mean the only person he screwed was himself when it came to his football career. If he can hold it in the road enough to run a bar in college station maybe he will be happier doing that than he would’ve been in the nfl.
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Beg to disagree about that. While Manziel primarily hurt himself with his shenanigans in Cleveland-there were a few other players on the team as well. They basically wasted two years of their career in terms of being on a winning team while JF was self destructing.

Joe Thomas is probably one of the most beloved Browns players of all time. Never missed a play. All class all day long in my opinion. He spent pretty much his entire career playing for some of the worst performing teams in history lol. Who knows man, if Manziel has actually put in at least a bit of work-maybe he could have at least gotten then to the playoffs a time or two or something

If he had no interest in the NFL, then why even bother? Granted, it was Haslems fault for being dumb enough to draft him in the first place, but still saying Manziels antics didn't effect anyone else is not genuine.
 
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jarnol32 said:
Why do you think he should be remorseful? He said in the documentary that he liked the party after the game more than the game. He said he was miserable in Cleveland. I mean the only person he screwed was himself when it came to his football career. If he can hold it in the road enough to run a bar in college station maybe he will be happier doing that than he would’ve been in the nfl.
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Usually recovering from an addiction comes with some remorse, and a desire to avoid the path again.

I sincerely hope this bar is the thing that helps him, but color me extremely doubtful of the story. it sounds more like an addict trying to manipulate anyone who will listen to them about how they have cleaned themselves up this time, they just need a little money to get back on their feet for real this time....
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Just watched all four Swamp King episodes, and there was little to no new information shared.
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So you knew about the players assaulting each other in the weight room? Haven’t watched but I saw that alleged in a write up.
 
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butchna said:
So you knew about the players assaulting each other in the weight room? Haven’t watched but I saw that alleged in a write up.
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Watch it first so we can operate from the same set of information, then I’ll gladly address your question.

That’s reasonable, yes?
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Just watched all four Swamp King episodes, and there was little to no new information shared.
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Everything I’ve seen says it was a major letdown. That’s a shame. There seems to be so much potential behind the scenes w/ the time that Urban was there.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Everything I’ve seen says it was a major letdown. That’s a shame. There seems to be so much potential behind the scenes w/ the time that Urban was there.
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Urban and Tebow were the central figures. Given that, I certainly didn’t expect to hear about Meyer’s infidelity or Percy Harvin clocking WR coach Billy Gonzalez.

But it would have been nice to get more info on events leading to Cam Newton’s dismissal, or comments from Carlos Dunlap on his DUI a week before Bama destroyed us in ‘09.

They totally whitewashed the arrest angle by focusing on Brandon James who got busted for weed and the death of Avery Atkins. Pat Dooley confirmed we had a fixer in attorney Huntley Johnson, even if he wasn’t mentioned by name.

The biggest revelation for me was the influence of Brandon Siler on Brandon Spikes, and Spikes’ initial reluctance to be a leader. Brandon Siler was the best part of the documentary.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Urban and Tebow were the central figures. Given that, I certainly didn’t expect to hear about Meyer’s infidelity or Percy Harvin clocking WR coach Billy Gonzalez.

But it would have been nice to get more info on events leading to Cam Newton’s dismissal, or comments from Carlos Dunlap on his DUI a week before Bama destroyed us in ‘09.

They totally whitewashed the arrest angle by focusing on Brandon James who got busted for weed and the death of Avery Atkins. Pat Dooley confirmed we had a fixer in attorney Huntley Johnson, even if he wasn’t mentioned by name.

The biggest revelation for me was the influence of Brandon Siler on Brandon Spikes, and Spikes’ initial reluctance to be a leader. Brandon Siler was the best part of the documentary.
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Totally disappointed by this doc. IDC if we get new bombshell information, I just want to hear the drama. Like you say, the Siler stuff was good. His story about his parents was awesome. I just want **** like that for 4 episodes and it wasn't that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Totally disappointed by this doc. IDC if we get new bombshell information, I just want to hear the drama. Like you say, the Siler stuff was good. His story about his parents was awesome. I just want **** like that for 4 episodes and it wasn't that.
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To be fair, the rest of the country learned what many UF fans already knew…Brandon James is actually Kevin Hart.
 
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I haven't seen either of these docs being talked about here, but I've tried to tell y'all...these Netflix sports docs are made for people who didn't follow the events as they happened. For people who know who Tebow and Manziel are, and that they played football, but not knowing really anything else about them.

If you followed the event in question just moderately closely, it's just a regurgitation of facts and news reports you already saw. It's easier/cheaper to make a more superficial documentary that just summarizes previously-reported information.
 
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