New Orleans Attack

[Berry4Heisman14]

True, we should appease them so they'll want to stop killin us.

For what it’s worth I’m grateful for the technology we have. It just shouldn’t be so expensive that’s I’m implying. Human lives should come first.

 

[C-south]

True, we should appease them so they'll want to stop killin us.

The ole Barry mantra.

 

[GroverCleveland]

Nope. The point is that terrorists are pissed about what's happening.

They should be angry at Hamas then. They're the ones who started a fight they could not win and keep women and children in place as their shields for the propaganda value in the West when they are killed as collateral damage.

EDIT: For Hamas it is all about the $ they raise.

 

[n_huffhines]

True, we should appease them so they'll want to stop killin us.

We're screwed because even a reasonable guy like you who wants restrained government, and thinks our foreign policy is a mess, also thinks of minding our own business as appeasement.

 

[n_huffhines]

They should be angry at Hamas then. They're the ones who started a fight they could not win and keep women and children in place as their shields for the propaganda value in the West when they are killed as collateral damage.

Should ain't got nothing to do with the fkn point.

You're trying to reason with me about why what's happening is tolerable, when the point is about concern over blowback. Whatever soft words you need me to use to make the horrific reality palatable to you, it will not change anything for the terrorists.

 

[C-south]

We're screwed because even a reasonable guy like you who wants restrained government, and thinks our foreign policy is a mess, also thinks of minding our own business as appeasement.

What’s your stance on illegal invaders aka illegal immigration?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

At this point there is very little, if any difference between ISIS, al qaeda, the Iranian government and a handful of other organizations. They are all proxies whose focus is bringing about their backwards ass way of life to the non-believers. One group might claim that it was their attack , but they’ve evolved to the point where they all have a hand in it one way or another.

We can go round and round about narratives and agendas, but at the end of the day, it is this simple.

 

[LouderVol]

Thailand currency and US currency is hard to translate bc 2000 Baht sounds like a lot but it’s actually like 58$. I paid 15 USD for 3 medications, and to see a doctor. So around 500 Baht. For comparison, the average meal at a restaurant in Bangkok, which is an upper level city there is around 29$ per person at a nice place to eat. To be seen, treated, and given 3 medications which I received all at the hospital itself cost me practically half what a meal cost.

so cheaper medicine good. more expensive food????

I think I am willing to accept that medical costs are more than the common source of the issue in this country, without seeing it as a direct issue with the system.

 

[VOLS INC.]

What’s your stance on illegal invaders aka illegal immigration?

Pretty sure he was one of the posters claiming ALL of these people are just seeking asylum.

Not invaders. Not illegals. Not doing anything wrong at all. All of them are just seeking asylum.

Could be wrong. I know a few posters were spewing that nonsense this time last year.

 

[Septic]

Maybe that it was an act of terrorism that killed 15 people instead of a truck simply “ramming” into a crowd.

Maybe you think the news should just wait for trump to tell them what he "thinks" America needs to hear and just report that?

 

[C-south]

Pretty sure he was one of the posters claiming ALL of these people are just seeking asylum.

Not invaders. Not illegals. Not doing anything wrong at all. All of them are just seeking asylum.

Could be wrong. I know a few posters were spewing that nonsense this time last year.

Yea my question was rhetorical. He loves him some illegals.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

so cheaper medicine good. more expensive food????

I think I am willing to accept that medical costs are more than the common source of the issue in this country, without seeing it as a direct issue with the system.

Let me know when going out to Outback Steakhouse twice a year puts you in thousands upon thousands of debt.

 

[C-south]

Maybe you think the news should just wait for trump to tell them what he "thinks" America needs to hear and just report that?

I think some people are going to lose their s*** no matter what Trump says.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Tesla Cybertruck bomber Matthew Livelsberger is a long-serving married Green Beret who was on leave from active duty when he carried out the attack outside Donald Trump's Las Vegas hotel.

Livelsberger, 37, was identified by law enforcement sources as the bomber in Wednesday's attack, which left seven wounded. The electric vehicle exploded about 15 seconds after the driver pulled up in front of the hotel's entrance.

The blast was caused by 'a bomb carried in the bed of the rented Cybertruck' or 'very large fireworks', according to Tesla CEO Elon Musk.


Livelsberger died in the bombing. He lived in Colorado Springs and was an active member of the Army. He previously received a Meritorious Honor Award for work benefiting the US Embassy in Tajikistan.

He grew up in Ohio and was married to social worker Sara Livelsberger, who in the lead up to the 2016 election shared a slew of Facebook posts spouting anti-Trump rhetoric.

According to CBS News, Liveslberger was on break from duty in Germany when he carried out the attack. His wife hadn't heard from him from several days.

Property records reveal the couple purchased a home in Colorado Springs together in 2015.

However, police have linked Livelsberger to several addresses throughout the city - including a different townhouse that was raided by the FBI overnight.



Few details have been made public about the alleged bomber's personal life, but he appeared to be married to social worker Sara Livelsberger (both pictured), who in the lead up to the 2016 election shared a slew of Facebook posts spouting anti-Trump rhetoric

Law enforcement sources have also revealed that Livelsberger previously served at the same military base as New Orleans terrorist Shamsud Din Jabbar, who on Wednesday drove a rented Tesla truck into a crowd of New Year revelers, killing at least 15 people and wounding dozens. Police have not confirmed if the pair were known to each other.

Jabbar served at Fort Liberty in North Carolina, previously known as Fort Bragg. Livelsberger previously lived at an address close to the base, but investigators have yet to confirm the location of the base the pair have in common.


Livelsberger has limited social media presence, but his wife Sara was very active on Facebook in 2015 and 2016.

Sharing a photo of a sign featuring a cartoon image of Trump that read 'stop bigotry', Sara wrote that she 'can't wait to slap this baby on my truck'.

Another post showed her wearing a t-shirt that said 'Girls just want to have FUN-damental Rights', suggesting she takes a pro-choice stance on abortion.

Sara, whose hometown is listed as Playa del Carmen, Mexico, has not posted on Facebook since May 2016.

Who is Matthew Livelsberger, bomber in Las Vegas Cybertruck explosion?

Matthew Livelsberger, 37, grew up in Colorado Springs, Colorado and was an active member of the Army and spent 18 years in Special Forces. He previously received a Meritorious Honor Award.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Thailand currency and US currency is hard to translate bc 2000 Baht sounds like a lot but it’s actually like 58$. I paid 15 USD for 3 medications, and to see a doctor. So around 500 Baht. For comparison, the average meal at a restaurant in Bangkok, which is an upper level city there is around 29$ per person at a nice place to eat. To be seen, treated, and given 3 medications which I received all at the hospital itself cost me practically half what a meal cost.

Thailand does have good hospitals especially in Major cities like Bangkok or Chiang Mai but remember, you also have to consider the cost of living in Thailand and wages compared to the US. I took my daughter to an international hospital years back when she was an infant fearing she had malaria or Dengue fever. The two night stay in the hospital was around $400.00. My SIL was a math teacher in Southern Thailand years back and 400 USD was essentially a monthly salary. She now lives in TN working as an accountant making well over 70k a year.

 

[wtmvol]

Maybe that it was an act of terrorism that killed 15 people instead of a truck simply “ramming” into a crowd.

Probably that it was a man driving the truck in the name of Islamic terrorism to kill innocents. The headline and even blurp under the pic suggest the truck did it a la Maximum Overdrive. There was room to tell the whole truth on the front page headlines.

Because the headline states that a truck caused the incident. Clay thinks it should state the truth, such as ISIS Terrorist Used a Truck to Ram New Orleans Crowd.

Got it - yeah that top headline is weak. In their defense, the smaller headline still on the front page calls it a terrorist attack and calls out the ISIS flag, something I think far left groups probably wouldn't want to include. I think the bigger headline should say "At Least 15 Dead in New Orleans New Year's Eve Terrorist Attack". The "truck" should be left to the details of the article.

 

[Berry4Heisman14]

Thailand does have good hospitals especially in Major cities like Bangkok or Chiang Mai but remember, you also have to consider the cost of living in Thailand and wages compared to the US. I took my daughter to an international hospital years back when she was an infant fearing she had malaria or Dengue fever. The two night stay in the hospital was around $400.00. My SIL was a math teacher in Southern Thailand years back and 400. USD was essentially a monthly salary. She now lives in TN working as an accountant making well over 70k a year.

This is all true. Doesn’t change the fact that human lives should come before profits.

 

[Halph66]

Got it - yeah that top headline is weak. In their defense, the smaller headline still on the front page calls it a terrorist attack and calls out the ISIS flag, something I think far left groups probably wouldn't want to include. I think the bigger headline should say "At Least 15 Dead in New Orleans New Year's Eve Terrorist Attack". The "truck" should be left to the details of the article.

I can agree that your headline is better. I'm an East Tennessee Hillbilly that is not known for his diction.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

This is all true. Doesn’t change the fact that human lives should come before profits.

So is your argument that a hospital should profit less or next to nothing? Apologies, I am not going back to read all of the earlier posts.

 

[hjeagle1vol]

So is your argument that a hospital should profit less or next to nothing? Apologies, I am not going back to read all of the earlier posts.

 

[Halph66]

This is all true. Doesn’t change the fact that human lives should come before profits.

For the most part the U.S. is a free market economy except for areas like defense, telecommunications, transportation, etc. The government deems those areas as vital importance to the nation's growth. Maybe health care should be included to protect the nation's growth.

However, if I spend my time, money, and knowledge to create a widget, I don't want the government dictating what I am allowed to sell my widget for. I would much prefer the laws of supply and demand dictate what my widget is worth. The same goes for my employer. It's a slippery slope for certain.

There is room for improvement in the health care/pharmaceutical world. I think the insurance companies also contribute to the mess.

 

[VOLLeeann]

So you don't understand the term genocide, or recognize Hamas is not fundamentally different than ISIS regarding the existence of Israel, and ignore the prevalence of Hamas advocacy among the 'genocide' protestors, who readily float a world without a Jewish state on 'river to the sea' chants.

Lemme get a fresh cup of coffee first.

Trust me. You don't need it. You're pumped up and triggered to the max as is.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Louisiana’s attorney general is seeking a further delay for the Sugar Bowl after the deadly New Year’s Day terrorist attack in New Orleans.

Louisiana Attorney General Pushes Further Sugar Bowl Delay After New Orleans Attack

Louisiana’s attorney general is seeking a further delay for the Sugar Bowl after the deadly New Year’s Day terrorist attack in New Orleans.

www.breitbart.com

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

This is all true. Doesn’t change the fact that human lives should come before profits.

Call & speak w/your state senator how you feel about all the concerns you have w/this.
Good luck in the meantime.

 

[hog88]

We're screwed because even a reasonable guy like you who wants restrained government, and thinks our foreign policy is a mess, also thinks of minding our own business as appeasement.

Even when we were minding our own business they still wanted to and did kill us. They’re not going to stop just because we mind our own business.