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#2,952
Majors said:
Liberal media tapped out when the facts came out, as I said you can’t defend wanting to kill people. Conservative media went all in on the release of Penny to protect others. Not hard to understand. Common sense won. Take your fake rage elsewhere, maybe back to pink hats.
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You are saying with a straight face that covering this story is "an attempt to divide" if the left does it but epic awesome protection of others if the right does it. Yikes lol
 
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#2,954
NashVol11 said:
You are saying with a straight face that covering this story is "an attempt to divide" if the left does it but epic awesome protection of others if the right does it. Yikes lol
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White educated military man, kills black homeless man. Yes. I don’t make the news cycles, but watch enough to know the agendas. DA Bragg looking for a case here while letting crime of color walk. Child please.
 
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#2,955
Majors said:
White educated military man, kills black homeless man. Yes. I don’t make the news cycles, but watch enough to know the agendas. DA Bragg looking for a case here while letting crime of color walk. Child please.
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If you “know the agendas” then you’ll eventually realize that the agenda for right wing media, just like the left, is generating clicks/outrage too and not “protecting others” like you naively claimed
 
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NashVol11 said:
Said differently, even if he didn’t kill Neely and hell even if Neely were still alive today, it wouldn’t make Penny a “hero” for physically attacking a clearly mentally ill person over words. People just love making everything a culture war thing
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I’ll take someone Intervening before someone attacks others, considering their confrontational and agitated behavior, any day of the week. Sometimes wait and see gets others hurt. Mental illness is secondary if there’s a reasonable belief a guy is about to hurt others around you.
 
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Here we go folks. No Merry Christmas for you this year NYC. We mad as hornets now.
It's sad these radical bone heads say violence is on the table bc we didn't get our way.

 
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#2,960
NashVol11 said:
You keep saying this based exclusively on one part of one side of the testimony. This is exactly what I was talking about re: taking a defense case at face value
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from your own quote it says the city examiner didn't wait for the toxicology report. so she literally couldn't mention the drugs if she made her findings before she saw them.

talk about looking at one side of things.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If you “know the agendas” then you’ll eventually realize that the agenda for right wing media, just like the left, is generating clicks/outrage too and not “protecting others” like you naively claimed
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The longer the trial went, the better the conservatives looked. Again. We understand you sympathize with a black male who wished harm and death on others. Sorry for your loss, as the good guys won again.
 
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LouderVol said:
from your own quote it says the city examiner didn't wait for the toxicology report. so she literally couldn't mention the drugs if she made her findings before she saw them.

talk about looking at one side of things.
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Yeah and it’s an absolutely gigantic leap to go from that to “K2 killed him” which neither side said. What are we doing here
 
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W.TN.Orange Blood said:
My next guess is they'll burn down the city of NY now since they didn't get a hanging.

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If by this he means a mentally ill person with 42 arrests shouldn't just be running around in public and allowed to openly threaten people on subways. I'd agree. Surely that's what he meant, right? Right?
 
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hndog609 said:
If by this he means a mentally ill person with 42 arrests shouldn't just be running around in public and allowed to openly threaten people on subways. I'd agree. Surely that's what he meant, right? Right?
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Fake outrage. They want another George Floyd moment/excuse just to riot
burn & kill innocent people who have nothing to do w/this. Kamala will show
up w/a go fund me to get all the criminals out of jail who are charged for it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
You keep saying this based exclusively on one part of one side of the testimony. This is exactly what I was talking about re: taking a defense case at face value
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Yes and on cross the prosecution expert agreeed with the defense experts. Thats why the manslaughter charges were dropped.
I get that you want it to be penny’s fault but the facts say he had a lethal dose of drugs in his system and that is why he died.

Anyone with a basic understanding of a rear naked choke knows that when applied correctly you lose consciousness in 4-5 seconds. 1 minute is fatal. Penny absolutely knows how to apply one. He subdued the man but never choked him.
 
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NashVol11 said:
If you “know the agendas” then you’ll eventually realize that the agenda for right wing media, just like the left, is generating clicks/outrage too and not “protecting others” like you naively claimed
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Of course right wing media was outraged! Daniel Penny should have been thanked by the Mayor & the City of New York that they are still good people willing do the right thing to protect others. Instead the liberal activist DA arrests him and charges him with murder. Remember the store owner who stabbed a robber in self defense and was also charged and sent to Riker's before overwhelming public pressure forced him to have charges dropped and released him.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
People who don't want an innocent to act in an escalated situation until violence is attempted against them have never experienced how quickly that violence takes your choices away. In other words, if you wait for someone who's threatening you to actually follow up on it, they almost always get the best of you. Your reflexes are never as good as their first move.

If someone is threatening you, and they're close enough to actually do it (especially if one is trying to retreat and they are closing the gap you're trying to create, or if you have no retreat) then you act first. And that doesn't make you the bad guy.
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There's definitely a mesh point between "You can't always just assume the worst and resort to physical violence." and "Waiting for the worst to actually begin happening to act is a very poor defensive strategy.". The lean should always go to the person(s) best able to claim defensive action.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
Yes and on cross the prosecution expert agreeed with the defense experts. Thats why the manslaughter charges were dropped.
I get that you want it to be penny’s fault but the facts say he had a lethal dose of drugs in his system and that is why he died.
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None of this is true. The judge asked jurors to decide the manslaughter charge and they couldn't, so he dismissed it. That has nothing to do with what "the facts say" regarding cause of death
Orangeslice13 said:
Anyone with a basic understanding of a rear naked choke knows that when applied correctly you lose consciousness in 4-5 seconds. 1 minute is fatal. Penny absolutely knows how to apply one. He subdued the man but never choked him.
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Tell him that
Penny came up behind Neely, grabbed his neck and head, and took him to the floor. The veteran later told police he "just put him in a chokehold" and "put him out" to ensure he wouldn't hurt anyone.
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