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hndog609 said:
It certainly doesn't look that way.

https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/license-required-engage-business-selling-small-arms-ammunition

Of course that's just Federal. State/local laws might be worth checking on.
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That's surprising. God bless America!

Yes, state and local is likely going to restrict those freedoms in many places. At a minimum they probably have rules about proper storage. And that wouldn't be a bad thing if reasonable. I don't really want a powder keg of hundreds of pounds of munitions stored in the condo nect door or below.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
What are the rules on the private sale of ammunition? If I owned 100,000 rounds and wanted to unload, say 10,000 rounds, does the government step in and prevent me from liquidating some of my private property?
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Do you?????

No, nothing preventing you from selling your property.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
That's surprising. God bless America!

Yes, state and local is likely going to restrict those freedoms in many places. At a minimum they probably have rules about proper storage. And that wouldn't be a bad thing if reasonable. I don't really want a powder keg of hundreds of pounds of munitions stored in the condo nect door or below.
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In TN there is no rule on how much ammo you can possess, at least none that I have ever heard of. Fireman once told me that you're supposed to let the fire dept know if you have over 2,000 rounds in your house. I never verified this of course.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
There's another thread about gun control, but it would take me most of a day to catch up. If guns become far more restricted, then what happens to the hundreds of millions of them already out there and to the citizens that own them? Compulsory home searches and account for every gun? Will anybody buying a gun be subject to an extensive background check and mental health evaluation... even Farmer Bubba that needs to protect his critters from predators. How many more are killed or maimed in car crashes every year? Should vehicle use be restricted? How much more aggressive will LEOs be toward the populace if their arms are restricted... will registration databases be checked for the potential firing power of self defense before kicking in citizen's front doors in? The left should give up on this issue. The benefits far outweigh the high profile tragedies.
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You need a license to drive a car and depending on what you drive (motorcycle, 18 wheeler, etc) you may need a different license. There are also restrictions such as speed limits and in most states, not TN, cars have to pass annual inspections. Let's not forget mandated auto insurance.

In other words, there are TONS of restrictions on driving and very few on buying/owning a firearm.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You need a license to drive a car and depending on what you drive (motorcycle, 18 wheeler, etc) you may need a different license. There are also restrictions such as speed limits and in most states, not TN, cars have to pass annual inspections. Let's not forget mandated auto insurance.

In other words, there are TONS of restrictions on driving and very few on buying/owning a firearm.
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I've never had to do a background check to buy a car or get a drivers license.
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
You need a license to drive a car and depending on what you drive (motorcycle, 18 wheeler, etc) you may need a different license. There are also restrictions such as speed limits and in most states, not TN, cars have to pass annual inspections. Let's not forget mandated auto insurance.

In other words, there are TONS of restrictions on driving and very few on buying/owning a firearm.
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How many die in car crashes every year and how many die from gun violence every year?
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
How many die in car crashes every year and how many die from gun violence every year?
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Always hated that argument. Most car fatalities are from accidents while I'd say that the vast majority of gun fatalities are from people intent to cause bodily harm. If people started using cars to run people down that rivals the amount of firearm deaths I guarantee you that things would change to make it harder to get and keep a license
 
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RetardedElf said:
Always hated that argument. Most car fatalities are from accidents while I'd say that the vast majority of gun fatalities are from people intent to cause bodily harm. If people started using cars to run people down that rivals the amount of firearm deaths I guarantee you that things would change to make it harder to get and keep a license
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Why would the intent of the person doing the killing matter? My original point was that it is possible to bring highway deaths way down by spending enough money and/or enacting legislation to fix it. Car accident deaths are a far bigger problem than an occasional, random, infrequent intentional shooting. I never have second thoughts about going out in public for fear of being randomly shot. I do watch other traffic very closely when I drive as people are killing others all the time.
 
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I was just thinking... if the deranged individuals intent on gunning somebody down were unable to obtain their guns, the frequency of them plowing automobiles into random crowds is going to go up.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
I was just thinking... if the deranged individuals intent on gunning somebody down were unable to obtain their guns, the frequency of them plowing automobiles into random crowds is going to go up.
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That's why we're the only developed country with frequent mass shootings. It's because all the other countries have mass automobile-into-crowd killings all the time instead. Now I get it.
 
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VKAman said:
That's why we're the only developed country with frequent mass shootings. It's because all the other countries have mass automobile-into-crowd killings all the time instead. Now I get it.
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Which other developed countries are under 250 years old? Those that are deranged to the point of homicide in those other developed countries can't as easily obtain an automobile. Many of those other countries also have cheap or inexpensive health care and are likely taking care of every one of those people that is a potentisl threat. The USA is less socialistic. There are more freedoms. That's the prefered system. It's a large country. The random killings are still pretty rare considering there are 3 or 4 hundred million here. Deranged shooters are going to get capped pretty quickly if there are gun totting citizens nearby. Many of the US mass killings are happening at schools... gun free zones. How restrictive is Norway? Four years ago 77 were killed by one guy.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Why would the intent of the person doing the killing matter? My original point was that it is possible to bring highway deaths way down by spending enough money and/or enacting legislation to fix it. Car accident deaths are a far bigger problem than an occasional, random, infrequent intentional shooting. I never have second thoughts about going out in public for fear of being randomly shot. I do watch other traffic very closely when I drive as people are killing others all the time.
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Because most times you have to go out of your way to end up killing someone with a gun. Car companies have spent billions of dollars over the years making the automobile safer and the government is constantly repaving roads to make it safer not to mention constant studies going on around the country to find the safest speed limit. In some states if you get enough points on your license it gets taken away but if you ever ask for simply checking the past mental well-being of someone before they legally buy a gun you are looked at like you're unpatriotic and are just looking to take away guns from people
 
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But again, if the objective is to reduce people from getting killed in the US, doing something about traffic deaths is far more effective than random shootings by the occasional deranged person.

Cameras could be installed and monitored along every major road and enforcement of speeding and tailgating and reckless driving and obstructing the flow of traffic could happen with zero tolerance toward violations. Many would be inconvienced, many lives will be saved.

That's all that I care to say about gun control in the news crew killing thread.
 
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Cashin' In on Fox News (11:30 am EDT) a topic will be workplace violence and how employers can stop it. Repeats several times over the weekend on Fox Business News.
 
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Question.

At what point will anti-depressant medication be studied as a precursor to these shootings? Seems like more times than not, the shooters are all medicated.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
But again, if the objective is to reduce people from getting killed in the US, doing something about traffic deaths is far more effective than random shootings by the occasional deranged person.

Cameras could be installed and monitored along every major road and enforcement of speeding and tailgating and reckless driving and obstructing the flow of traffic could happen with zero tolerance toward violations. Many would be inconvienced, many lives will be saved.

That's all that I care to say about gun control in the news crew killing thread.
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Fair enough you have your view and I have mine and we'll probably never agree on the topic. But trust this the longer thinges go along with no change to the status quo when something comes along that truly shocks people the backlash and laws changed will be worse than you fear. Not saying I agree with it but have seen enough in my lifetime to know what outrage can do
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Question.

At what point will anti-depressant medication be studied as a precursor to these shootings? Seems like more times than not, the shooters are all medicated.
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I think it definitely needs to be studied, but in some ways it's like
studying cholesterol medication as a precursor to heart attacks?
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Question.

At what point will anti-depressant medication be studied as a precursor to these shootings? Seems like more times than not, the shooters are all medicated.
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Big Pharma does not approve of this possibility.

The drug company lawyers will of course argue that the depression was the cause, not the meds that were being used to treat it.

When you have 7 billion people sharing one planet, some are going to do hideous things. You can not legislate it to zero instances occurring.
 
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