Neyland Stadium bowl question

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If 70 teams are going to play in Bowl Games, then I see no reason why Knoxville and UT do not try to get into that market. There is certainly the problem with alcohol sales, however, something needs to be done about that anyway. Neyland would not have to sell out; most bowls don't and they could sell tickets only for the lower bowl anyway. It would provide a nice revenue bump for Knoxville while the students are gone.

Knoxville is a nice enough city and it is relatively warm in the winter and the Smokey Mountains are already a nice tourist draw. Fact is that if I were either a player and/or a fan, I would rather travel to Knoxville for a bowl game than Boise, El Paso, Shreveport, Birmingham, Memphis, or Detroit.
 
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therealUT said:
If 70 teams are going to play in Bowl Games, then I see no reason why Knoxville and UT do not try to get into that market. There is certainly the problem with alcohol sales, however, something needs to be done about that anyway. Neyland would not have to sell out; most bowls don't and they could sell tickets only for the lower bowl anyway. It would provide a nice revenue bump for Knoxville while the students are gone.

Knoxville is a nice enough city and it is relatively warm in the winter and the Smokey Mountains are already a nice tourist draw. Fact is that if I were either a player and/or a fan, I would rather travel to Knoxville for a bowl game than Boise, El Paso, Shreveport, Birmingham, Memphis, or Detroit.
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I would rather travel to Birmingham and Memphis. Memphis has Beale St and all of the touristy Elvis stuff. Have you been to the strip in Knoxville? That is the trashiest, lamest college bar strip I have ever been to and I have been to most of the SEC hangouts. The old city at Barley's and Downtown Bar and Grill are fun...but besides that, Knoxville needs a massive overhaul. I didnt realize how rundown it was until I moved elsewhere.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
I wonder why Neyland Stadium doesn't have a bowl game. You'd think it would considering the size and accommidations. Any reasons you folks know of that I might have missed? Has it ever been considered?
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putting on a bowl game takes a huge commitment from the city both in time and financially. You have to have sponsors step up to contribute millions of dollars toward it before the NCAA would even sanction it.

Major commitment. Nashville had been laying the ground work for years before even requesting to have a bowl..

it is far more than just having a stadium
 
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Ok, here is what I got out of all that....


The Sunsphere is now a wig factory? You gots to be kidding me?


Are they gonna put a big wig up on top of the gold sphere? Now, that would be......interesting
 
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Strizzle said:
I would rather travel to Birmingham and Memphis. Memphis has Beale St and all of the touristy Elvis stuff. Have you been to the strip in Knoxville? That is the trashiest, lamest college bar strip I have ever been to and I have been to most of the SEC hangouts. The old city at Barley's and Downtown Bar and Grill are fun...but besides that, Knoxville needs a massive overhaul. I didnt realize how rundown it was until I moved elsewhere.
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Forgot about 'the touristy Elvis stuff'...

I am not saying that Knoxville is great; I am saying that it is as good or better than Birmingham, Boise, Memphis (aside from Beale Street there is nothing worth visiting Memphis for), El Paso, or Detroit.

Yes, the Strip is rundown. The strip was great prior to UT landing atop the party school rankings; that was the turning point when the ultra-conservative element in Knoxville decided that they did not want such an image. That can certainly be reversed, though; and I do not think it would take much to reverse it...simply ease up on fining establishments for not catching every last underage person who makes it in under a fake ID.

Ten years ago, the Strip and the Old City were filled with good bars and good live music. That can be revived.
 
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The KTSC has talked about having a bowl at Neyland, but they would rely heavily on UT's Athletic Dept. to run it and, most years, that staff is traveling with the Vols to a Bowl game. That was the reason I was given.
 
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therealUT said:
Forgot about 'the touristy Elvis stuff'...

I am not saying that Knoxville is great; I am saying that it is as good or better than Birmingham, Boise, Memphis (aside from Beale Street there is nothing worth visiting Memphis for), El Paso, or Detroit.

Yes, the Strip is rundown. The strip was great prior to UT landing atop the party school rankings; that was the turning point when the ultra-conservative element in Knoxville decided that they did not want such an image. That can certainly be reversed, though; and I do not think it would take much to reverse it...simply ease up on fining establishments for not catching every last underage person who makes it in under a fake ID.

Ten years ago, the Strip and the Old City were filled with good bars and good live music. That can be revived.
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I hear what you are saying, but I just dont think Knoxville has enough going for it to change things up and bring a bowl game there.

As for the strip in Knoxville, it is going to take alot more than just allowing minors to enter bars to revive it. I was there in 2001 and it was already getting lame. It is going to require alot of bulldozing and city funding. That place is beyond repair. It is an utter embarassment to alumni.
 
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Having a bowl game at Neyland would be quite embarrassing when the Vols cant make a bowl as we have missed out on the postseason 3 times since the 05 season.Seriously their is way too many corny bowls 6-6 teams shouldnt even be able to go to a bowl.They add about 5 unneccessary stupid bowl games every year,yet we still have no playoff.College Football's postseason sucks plain and simple.
 
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You know the bowl game in Boise is very cheap when they don't even bother to customize the field for the game. They just played on the regular field with BSU's logos.
 
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BTW...when are they going to change the UT is a alcohol free campus "rule" on gameday's and serve beer at the games? That is the biggest joke...Hey... you cant drink beer unless it is in a cup...lol That is like saying you cant smoke weed out of a bong...only joints are allowed. Everyone knows that 20,000 plus people bring in booze to the game. When is UT going to shoot straight and avoid the BS political symantics?
 
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Strizzle said:
BTW...when are they going to change the UT is a alcohol free campus "rule" on gameday's and serve beer at the games? That is the biggest joke...Hey... you cant drink beer unless it is in a cup...lol That is like saying you cant smoke weed out of a bong...only joints are allowed. Everyone knows that 20,000 plus people bring in booze to the game. When is UT going to shoot straight and avoid the BS political symantics?
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There aren't a lot of on-campus stadiums or arenas that allow alcholol sales during college events. When the Carolina Panthers played at Clemson for the '95 season they sold beer for the Panther games on Sun but not the Clemson games on Sat.

My guess is that it has to do with liability insurance. I know at the SEC CG in Atlanta and when the basketball tournament is held there they sell alcohol in the Club area only.
 
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This issue has been brought up several times and basically the City of Knoxville has always pushed back against a bowl in Neyland primarily because
a) With UT being in a bowl, they were always worried that they couldn't draw enough of the local crowd to fill the stadium
b) With UT not being in a bowl game, the city worries that the local football fans become apathetic and don't really care to go to another game if their team isn't involved
c) The college is out on break during the bowl season, lessening the local crowd that might attend said game

Let's face it guys...most of these bowls (disregarding the BIG ones...Sugar, Orange, Fiesta, Rose, BSCCG) only draw about 40 to 50 K tops...even at 60K, Neyland would look pretty sad...that's the drawback to the big stadium.
 
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Everyone screams "Mountains" lol. Like someone will drive here in the winter for a bowl game because of lumps of rock with trees growing out of them. I agree Neyland is a great stadium but with no alcohol, mediocre accommodations in Knoxville, a dead strip, and lack of anything going on outside the university are the reasons not to put a bowl game here. Like it or not Memphis and other cities are actually cities. Knoxville is an interstate college town, without UT it would be no bigger than any other small interstate town along I-40. I love living here but would never come to a bowl game here unless UT was playing (lol)
 
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stephenk24 said:
If Neyland did host a bowl game would any of you guys go to it just for the event if the Vols were not playing?
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If I weren't going to UT's bowl game or if the two games were far enough apart, then yeah I would go. The Liberty Bowl I went to a few years ago between Boise and Louisville is still one of the better games I've attended.

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You know the bowl game in Boise is very cheap when they don't even bother to customize the field for the game. They just played on the regular field with BSU's logos.
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Those logos could be a permanent fixture on the turf.

Strizzle said:
BTW...when are they going to change the UT is a alcohol free campus "rule" on gameday's and serve beer at the games? That is the biggest joke...Hey... you cant drink beer unless it is in a cup...lol That is like saying you cant smoke weed out of a bong...only joints are allowed. Everyone knows that 20,000 plus people bring in booze to the game. When is UT going to shoot straight and avoid the BS political symantics?
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I believe the no alcohol at games thing is an SEC rule. However, I bet UT could get permission to serve it at a bowl game if they really wanted to. I saw U2 at Vanderbilt Stadium back in July and the Guinness was flowing all night. First time I've seen non-airplane bottle alcohol inside a SEC venue.
 
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kentucky sucks said:
I wonder why Neyland Stadium doesn't have a bowl game. You'd think it would considering the size and accommidations. Any reasons you folks know of that I might have missed? Has it ever been considered?
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There arent enough Hotels for one...you would have people staying all over east tennessee....a few in Jeff City (LOL) a few off I-81, some at exit 417, a couple in cocke county, etc...LMAO!!! thats why there are no Bowls at Neyland....
 
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BJSforVols said:
No offense to Knoxville, but it not really a desirable place to come visit from a tourist prespective. Bowl games typically need to have a tourist attraction in order to be successful.
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Bingo. Also, it's a time of year where not only would it be freezing cold but the weather could very easily result in snow or even heavy ice


Same reasons the titans stadium (or further north the browns, bengals, or bears) would never really receive super bowl consideration

(actually Atlanta might never host it again after that ice storm in 2000)
 
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How bout Neyland Stadium for the Super Bowl! When we go to the Orange and White game we stay in a cabin close to Dollywood. It's just like Disneyworld only a bit more Hillbilly with overalls.
 
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BJSforVols said:
No offense to Knoxville, but it not really a desirable place to come visit from a tourist prespective. Bowl games typically need to have a tourist attraction in order to be successful.
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Too cold or they could tout the Gatlinburg/ Dollywood area. B4 you laugh, what does Charlotte,Nashville, or Boise have?
 
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