NFL Draft

#51
#51
(Ooltewah Vol @ Apr 17 said:
Word is that Allen’s medical reports are drawing some flags. He did run a 4.39 in the 40, and had a 39 1/2-inch vertical. The Dr’s are now worried that the hip could be a degenerative condition. That’s the word anyway; let’s just hope it isn’t as bad as they are thinking.
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I don't know why Deon Grant had the same injury and is still going strong
 
#52
#52
(Vols4life @ Apr 18 said:
I don't know why Deon Grant had the same injury and is still going strong
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True, but Grant also missed his whole first season due to the injury. I don't think the questions concern Allen's long term ability as much as they question whether he will be able to go this season.
 
#53
#53
(therealUT @ Apr 18 said:
True, but Grant also missed his whole first season due to the injury. I don't think the questions concern Allen's long term ability as much as they question whether he will be able to go this season.
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True
 
#54
#54
This is an interesting link that breaks down the strengths and weaknesses of our players that may be drafted.

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#55
#55
cool site, vader

Here's my predictions:
2nd round: Jason Allen
3rd: Jesse Mahelona
4th: Gerald Riggs, Parys Haralson
6th: Rob Smith, Omar Gaither, Albert Toenia
7th: Kevin Simon
 
#59
#59
(SURFSIDEBEACHVOL @ Apr 28 said:
I think Allen goes first round to Steelers. I'm hoping Carolina takes him to replace Manning. :cross:
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He will go before that. There are too many teams before the Steelers who need DB help to pass on him, and the Steelers are already good at the position. I still contend he goes to Dallas.
 
#60
#60
(milohimself @ Apr 29 said:
I still contend he goes to Dallas.
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! :bad:
 
#63
#63
im gonna laugh if allen gets picked like surprisingly 5th overall haha nah i hope he last till the 47th overall i wanna see him with my falcons
 
#65
#65
(Volunteersfan @ Apr 29 said:
off topic from Tennessee players but i'm surprised Bush didnt get picked up already
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your not kiddin man i think its foolish but whatever...
 
#66
#66
(hatvol96 @ Apr 17 said:
He can play even if he doesn't pass the physical. He's not failing because of any life threatening malady. They'll get the appropriate waivers and he'll play. It's really a cased of who wants to take the risk. If you need a safety bad enough, you take the chance. My guess, absent there being something more severe than previously noted in his physical profile, he goes between 18 and 25.
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Just missed it.
 
#68
#68
Well, almost! White was possibly a great pick. But, Young being picked as the 1st QB by the Titans was foolish. Young will not be a superstar QB in the NFL. They could have had the best QB in the draft, which is Cutler.
 
#69
#69
(therickbol @ Apr 30 said:
Well, almost! White was possibly a great pick. But, Young being picked as the 1st QB by the Titans was foolish. Young will not be a superstar QB in the NFL. They could have had the best QB in the draft, which is Cutler.
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I would argue that. Cutler has all the measurable skills, but he is not a winner. Sure, he can make all the NFL throws. So can Kyle Boller. Matt Leinart and Vince Young are the two best QB's of this year's draft class, and Cutler is the 3rd.
 
#70
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(milohimself @ Apr 30 said:
I would argue that. Cutler has all the measurable skills, but he is not a winner. Sure, he can make all the NFL throws. So can Kyle Boller. Matt Leinart and Vince Young are the two best QB's of this year's draft class, and Cutler is the 3rd.
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I suppose your argument concerning "being a winner" has to do with the number of games he won at Vanderbilt compared to what Leinart and Young won at USC and Texas. How do you not see the ridiculous in that assessment? If Cutler and Leinart switched places do you think Leinart would have won any more games with the surrounding talent and Vanderbilt? No! Would Cutler have won as many games as Leinart did with all the surrounding talent at USC? Yes! You can do the same thing with Young and Cutler. You don't think Cutler was a "winner" in High School? He was.

Even if you wanted to pick a winner, it should have been Leinart before Young. Vince Young got elevated to that pick based on one game against a porous USC defense. NFL defenses will not allow Young to do what he did against USC's defense. He will not be able to be a passer in the NFL and defenses are too good for him to run all over them.
 
#71
#71
i wasn't shocked that Young was taken before ML....i look at like this....i belive USC would have been USC whether ML was there or not.....on the flipside, there's no way TX would have been the TX they were w/out V. Young....he made that team what they were the past couple of years.

in the same light, Cutler at Vandy accomplished more than either of them, based on the talent around him. all i need to know about Cutler is that he was the 2005 SEC offensive player of the year....at Vanderbilt. that says a lot about the kid. It'll be interesting to see what he does at Denver with all the talent that'll be around him at the Pro level.
 
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(jakez4ut @ May 1 said:
i wasn't shocked that Young was taken before ML....i look at like this....i belive USC would have been USC whether ML was there or not.....on the flipside, there's no way TX would have been the TX they were w/out V. Young....he made that team what they were the past couple of years.

in the same light, Cutler at Vandy accomplished more than either of them, based on the talent around him. all i need to know about Cutler is that he was the 2005 SEC offensive player of the year....at Vanderbilt. that says a lot about the kid. It'll be interesting to see what he does at Denver with all the talent that'll be around him at the Pro level.
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That's just not accurate. Look at the number of top 3 round picks Texas has produced the last couple of years. Benson, Johnson, Huff, etc. Young is wildly overrated as an NFL prospect. That's why the Titans are fading into oblivion. Moves like drafting a QB who can't really throw don't help build a Super Bowl contender.
 
#73
#73
(hatvol96 @ May 1 said:
That's just not accurate. Look at the number of top 3 round picks Texas has produced the last couple of years. Benson, Johnson, Huff, etc. Young is wildly overrated as an NFL prospect. That's why the Titans are fading into oblivion. Moves like drafting a QB who can't really throw don't help build a Super Bowl contender.
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David Thomas was a third round pick this year. Cedric Griffin was a top 100 pick. Texas had a wealth of talent.
 
#74
#74
(hatvol96 @ May 1 said:
David Thomas was a third round pick this year. Cedric Griffin was a top 100 pick. Texas had a wealth of talent.
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i never said that TX didn't have talent....sure they did. i was just saying that had TX not had V Young, they wouldn't have been what they were the past couple of years....you have to admit, the plays he made in many of thier games with his feet and, at times, his arm, they wouldn't have won the NC....(btw, i still don't think he has so called NFL arm or throwing motion, but under the watchfull eye of Norm Chow, he should be able to learn)

No arguement about the talent TX has/had....it was very good....i just think that USC would have done as good as they did whether they had ML or not....i can't say the same about TX and VY....just my opinion. I'm not goint to say that USC had better talent, cause if they did have that much better talent, they probably should have beatent TX....but i do think that USC could have gotten to that game with or w/out ML a the helm...a feat that i don't think TX could have done, much less win the NC, w/out V young.
 
#75
#75
(jakez4ut @ May 1 said:
i never said that TX didn't have talent....sure they did. i was just saying that had TX not had V Young, they wouldn't have been what they were the past couple of years....you have to admit, the plays he made in many of thier games with his feet and, at times, his arm, they wouldn't have won the NC....(btw, i still don't think he has so called NFL arm or throwing motion, but under the watchfull eye of Norm Chow, he should be able to learn)

No arguement about the talent TX has/had....it was very good....i just think that USC would have done as good as they did whether they had ML or not....i can't say the same about TX and VY....just my opinion. I'm not goint to say that USC had better talent, cause if they did have that much better talent, they probably should have beatent TX....but i do think that USC could have gotten to that game with or w/out ML a the helm...a feat that i don't think TX could have done, much less win the NC, w/out V young.
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Texas would have been a National Championship contender with any quality player at QB the last two years. I have no problem saying they had more talent than USC this year. The Texas defense was vastly superior to that put on the field by the Trojans. If USC's offense had played against their defense, they would have scored 80 points. Vince Young didn't play against a single great defense last year. He, and the Titans, are in for a painful indoctrination process.
 
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